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2016-17 Performances

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Jev said:
If we're not going to sell him, we need to give Memphis a proper chance to play himself into form. I also assume we didn't sign Henrikh just to leave him on the bench. And Mata has done way, way more than Martial so far this season so he would be my first pick.
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Mkhitaryan is injured and has also been poor so far this season, Memphis hasn't shown anything in his cameos, which leaves one with Mata, who has a solid but not outstanding season. He would be the only choice to replace him at the moment.
 
Jev said:
If we're not going to sell him, we need to give Memphis a proper chance to play himself into form. I also assume we didn't sign Henrikh just to leave him on the bench. And Mata has done way, way more than Martial so far this season so he would be my first pick.
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I agree that those players like Mata and Mkhi who play on the right could play on the right doay instead of him, but then he played on the right just few minutes so far, so I am not really sure he is their direct competition.

If we are going to play Memphis into form though then we might as well play Martial for another half of the season into form because he is quite obviously better player and even at his worst is better than Memphis' average.
 
Amar__ said:
He was benched just last league game and his replacement was terrible, in the last game cameo Memphis showed nothing either. He was also subbed in every game so far. What more do you need, he is our best player from last season out of the starting players and he plays less than anyone.

Who would you play instead of him?
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For me Martial along with Mkhitaryan are the sorts of players who benefit from having faith shown in them. Think @Sphaero or one of the other Dortmund fans said that the handling of Mkhitaryan so far hasn't been great (granted he's currently injured).

Playing in different positions and being subbed every game or starting some games on the bench isn't going to help.
 
We're not using him correctly. He's not someone who should cut in and roam. He needs to hug the touchline and run at the full back.

Hope he's ok.
 
Amar__ said:
I agree that those players like Mata and Mkhi who play on the right could play on the right doay instead of him, but then he played on the right just few minutes so far, so I am not really sure he is their direct competition.
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Well, when he was playing on the left we had Rashford on the right who prefers to play on the left so today I'd say they were.
 
Damien said:
For me Martial along with Mkhitaryan are the sorts of players who benefit from having faith shown in them. Think @Sphaero or one of the other Dortmund fans said that the handling of Mkhitaryan so far hasn't been great (granted he's currently injured).

Playing in different positions and being subbed every game or starting some games on the bench isn't going to help.
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Definitely, and what's important that Martial is bloody good player when in form, maybe even our best, so I can't see a reason to play inferior players into form ahead of him. That kind of thing can happen only at Manchester United, did Real Madrid left Bale on the bench any time he was shit, or did they persist with him until they played him into form which paid out massively in the end. He isn't good as Bale yet, but he is definitely our equuialent and one worth building the team around. I seriously don't see the point of playing the likes of Young, Memphis or Lingard(even though I rate Lingard higher than majority here) into form ahead of him because they are quite clearly inferior players.

They'll always be squad players at best, while Martial is something else.
 
Kag said:
But the alternatives are horrendous.
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I disagree. We have great width on our flanks. Henrikh is injured but is an obvious alternative. We were all raving about Memphis last year when he was considered the biggest winger prospect in Europe and we basically wrote him off completely after he started the season similar to Martial this year. Young is solid. Mata today would have made more sense instead of shoehorning two left-wingers/strikers into the side, and he's also had a much better start to the season than Martial.
 
A spell on the bench to follow today's events? Still too early to call it second season syndrome but he seems to be struggling right now.
 
Jev said:
I disagree. We have great width on our flanks. Henrikh is injured but is an obvious alternative. We were all raving about Memphis last year when he was considered the biggest winger prospect in Europe and we basically wrote him off completely after he started the season similar to Martial this year. Young is solid. Mata today would have made more sense instead of shoehorning two left-wingers/strikers into the side, and he's also had a much better start to the season than Martial.
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Memphis has been attrocious, only good games were vs Europe minnows. I don't think he'll make it at United, Young is not solid, he's horrendous and Mata is not a winger. We need a proper winger at least as a backup and right now we haven't got one.
I agree about Mickhi but we'll see how Jose will use him.
 
Gutted for the kid (well, I'm gutted about everything United right now...), he was poor today and he should have come off after the clash of heads. Hopefully it doesn't affect his confidence too badly but none of the players look to have much confidence right now.
 
Shite again. Had a lot more bad games than good last year too IMO but got massively overhyped on here because of a few admittedly fantastic moments and goals. Hope he pulls his finger out.
 
Jev said:
If we're not going to sell him, we need to give Memphis a proper chance to play himself into form. I also assume we didn't sign Henrikh just to leave him on the bench. And Mata has done way, way more than Martial so far this season so he would be my first pick.
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So you want to give Memphis a proper chance to play into form but you want Martial dropped after four games? That doesn't make sense.
 
Wonder why he didn't just put his foot through it if he was feeling dizzy?

Been completely awful this season.
 
K2K said:
Imagine our midfield actually playing some through balls for him or any of our wingers to run on to.
I'm sure we would see an improvement.Right now I feel that chucking our wingers in and out of the team won't solve that.
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Thing is, he's so static with his movement. He doesn't make many runs himself.
 
Dobbs said:
So you want to give Memphis a proper chance to play into form but you want Martial dropped after four games? That doesn't make sense.
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He's not advocating dropping Martial forever, just benching him for a few games while his form is so poor. Works for some players so it depends on Martial's mentality.
 
K2K said:
But then the question is...doesn't He make any because he doesn't expect any balls to come to him?

I know we have our trademark pass to the right but hardly anything to the left.
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I think it's just a weakness in his game and something for him to work on. He prefers the ball to feet and it's another issue within the team. Seems everyone in the team prefers the ball to feet and runs in the open channels are a rarity.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
I think it's just a weakness in his game and something for him to work on. He prefers the ball to feet and it's another issue within the team. Seems everyone in the team prefers the ball to feet and runs in the open channels are a rarity.
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Fair point.something to work on.Having runners stretches teams out of their defensive shape and triggers mistakes.We aren't doing enough of that.
 
Cascarino said:
He's not advocating dropping Martial forever, just benching him for a few games while his form is so poor. Works for some players so it depends on Martial's mentality.
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I don't think he confirms either way how long he should be benched for. Kind of depends how the replacement does I reckon.

The poster wants to give Memphis time to play into form but already wants Martial, our best layer last season, dropped. You must see the breakdown of logic here?
 
Dobbs said:
I don't think he confirms either way how long he should be benched for. Kind of depends how the replacement does I reckon.

The poster wants to give Memphis time to play into form but already wants Martial, our best layer last season, dropped. You must see the breakdown of logic here?
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Don't get me wrong I completely get your argument, and I personally wouldn't drop him as while he's been poor, he can be so influential, especially with his dribbling ability.

I do think it's a good idea to take youngsters out of the firing line though when form drops, albeit that's a lot easier when you have someone to bring in who isn't Memphis (I can't see him turning his United career around).

Things would be a lot easier for Martial if the team as a whole was clicking.
 
Not worried about him at all. He's had a bad start but he's only young and most likely wrecked from last season and the Euros. He'll be back to his best in no time.
 
I'm a bit surprised he is struggling this much. I know he had a bad Euro's, but i thought that was more down to the lack of faith by Deschamps.

Now that he is going through a bad patch i realise it's a problem that we have to rely on young lads like Martial and Rashford and Depay in attack.
He's not been Memphis bad, but still not good enough and i feel for him as the pressure on him to perform is huge after his first season with us.

When Mkhitaryan comes back from injury he should bench Martial, i think we need to take some pressure of his shoulders right now.

He is very talented though and hopefully he will benefit too when/if Mourinho makes the decision to finally bench Rooney and go with a 4-3-3.
 
Cascarino said:
Don't get me wrong I completely get your argument, and I personally wouldn't drop him as while he's been poor, he can be so influential, especially with his dribbling ability.

I do think it's a good idea to take youngsters out of the firing line though when form drops, albeit that's a lot easier when you have someone to bring in who isn't Memphis (I can't see him turning his United career around).

Things would be a lot easier for Martial if the team as a whole was clicking.
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I don't even think he's been that bad. It's more not being involved in games rather than being poor on the ball.

I still think he's shown flashes of skill that nobody else in the squad can produce.
 
we should be playing him similar to how Neymar plays for Barca, inside forward. Keep him high up the park and in between full back and cb.

He's not a winger and it shows this year.
 
Some of the comments on here are way over the top. He's suffering from lack of confidence from the Euros. Last season he was unbelievable and he will come good again. He's only 20 years old ffs.
 
Ban said:
Memphis has been attrocious, only good games were vs Europe minnows. I don't think he'll make it at United, Young is not solid, he's horrendous and Mata is not a winger. We need a proper winger at least as a backup and right now we haven't got one.
I agree about Mickhi but we'll see how Jose will use him.
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Memphis was also used to playing in a front three that didn't have to defend. If we have him that option, I promise he would show that talent for us as well
 
Trizy said:
Some of the comments on here are way over the top. He's suffering from lack of confidence from the Euros. Last season he was unbelievable and he will come good again. He's only 20 years old ffs.
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Yeah, but the baggage of his mess of a private life is another factor that can't be underestimated. A break might actually be the best thing for him.
 
revel911 said:
Memphis was also used to playing in a front three that didn't have to defend. If we have him that option, I promise he would show that talent for us as well
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He's not good enough to warrant not defending, he isn't even the best player in his position for us, let alone our best player.
 
He wasn't playing well, his runs didn't go as they should, and he lost the ball a couple of times. Worst was of course when he lost the ball in a very dangerous area, and they scored. I do hope the injury isn't bad, but I want him to first start focussing more on getting his form back in training, and then playing the Capital One Cup, and EL games to prove he should get his place back
 
Yes, he has been poor this season, but I'd be looking at some of the senior players to pull their weight first. Zlatan and Rashford are the only ones that are pulling their weight in that front line. Fellaini's ceiling is low on his best day and Mata has been invisible. Herrera has been steady. Schneiderlin can't get in the first team. Schweinsteiger frozen out and question marks over whether Carrick still has the legs to play at this level.
 
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