I'd like to see:
De Gea
TFM - Smalling - Bailly - Rojo
Blind
Herrera - Pogba
Mata - Rashford - Martial
TFM - Smalling - Bailly - Rojo
Blind
Herrera - Pogba
Mata - Rashford - Martial
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I hate how he's been transformed in to a LM/LW. He is great at playing that position but I think he would be better playing ST/CF. The same goes for Rashford. We don't want the instinct finisher to go from the both of them.
We need to surround ibra with Rashford, Mikhi and Martial. I would really like to see what an injection of pace could do for this team.
Might have similar effects to when we got rid of Ruud and unleashed Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha.
Might have similar effects to when we got rid of Ruud and unleashed Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha.
3-4-1-2/4-4-2 Diamond then?
Imagine Martial and Rashford up top together, my god.
I know the Caf hates the 3 at the back formations after LvG, but we could actually field a great side in that formation:
Martial - Marcus
Mkhi
Shaw Pogba Fellaini Vale
Bailly Blind Chris
DDG
Blind to push up when in possession of the ball.
Mkhi
Shaw Pogba Fellaini Vale
Bailly Blind Chris
DDG
Blind to push up when in possession of the ball.
Biggest thing I'm looking forward to after Van Gaal. Players roaming.
Although the strange thing is, that under VG Martial looked terrific.
We assumed that he was such quality it overrode crap negative management, but maybe we were wrong.
Hoping Martial is just a little knackered out of form, as if he can regain last year's level,with a better set of attackers round him we'll be very hard to defend against.
If we acquired Tuchel after Mourinho, this is probably how we'd set up in attack minus maybe Fellaini.3-4-1-2/4-4-2 Diamond then?
Imagine Martial and Rashford up top together, my god.
I know the Caf hates the 3 at the back formations after LvG, but we could actually field a great side in that formation:
Martial - Marcus
Mkhi
Shaw Pogba Fellaini Vale
Bailly Blind Chris
DDG
Blind to push up when in possession of the ball.
I think there are other factors at play here. Like you've said he's a bit out of form. Absolutely normal for a young player to he like that, especially an attacker who takes risks by nature. It's also normal for fans to want him back in form as soon as possible.
Also he's one of 3 or 4 main men going forward now, instead of the go to guy. Naturally sees a little less of the ball.
3 at the back can work fine if you're positive enough, the problem is we never were. The wing backs need to be pushed up high and wide when in possession, but they always used to play too deep. When they got the ball they were never always too scared to dribble so ended up passing backwards, was pretty pointless.3-4-1-2/4-4-2 Diamond then?
Imagine Martial and Rashford up top together, my god.
I know the Caf hates the 3 at the back formations after LvG, but we could actually field a great side in that formation:
Martial - Marcus
Mkhi
Shaw Pogba Fellaini Vale
Bailly Blind Chris
DDG
Blind to push up when in possession of the ball.
We need to get rid of him asap, total waste of money and space. Let's cut our losses and reinvest the money in someone like James McClean!
Rashford says Martial is quicker.
It was the right call to drop him against City... but not for Lingard and an unfit Mkhitaryan.
Rashford and Mata should have started the game.
Rashford and Mata should have started the game.
I like the idea of this. It would be interesting to see how it would work. I miss the days of playing 2 strikers up top. Martial and Rashford both have incredible speed which would cause any defence problems.3-4-1-2/4-4-2 Diamond then?
Imagine Martial and Rashford up top together, my god.
I know the Caf hates the 3 at the back formations after LvG, but we could actually field a great side in that formation:
Martial - Marcus
Mkhi
Shaw Pogba Fellaini Vale
Bailly Blind Chris
DDG
Blind to push up when in possession of the ball.
He's going to score or assist today
Yeah I think Rashford has better acceleration but his top end isn't quite as good, where as Martial has good accel and good top speed.
If Martial is faster it's marginal. That show of pace from Rashford to reach that ball in the derby was lightning.
I agree with you. Martial doesn't have a good cross on him, doesn't have long range shots, and his passing is appalling at times. What he does have is very quick feet, likes to play quick give and go, can dribble past a crowd of defenders. He should be playing as close to the penalty area as possible and has the potential to make the spot his own.
But then we have no other proper left winger in the squad. To say Memphis is struggling will be an understatement. Young, although can perform when given tons of space, doesn't have United level quality about him and more often than not will go missing. Rashford has been doing quite well on the left side but I am yet to be completely convinced and his skill set is even more suited to the striker's position than Martial's. You seem to hold the same views about Radhford. All in all, we simply do not have a good option for a left midfielder/winger. Someone who can beat their man, put in a proper cross when needed, have the pace to stretch teams and that is the reason as to why both LvG and now Mourinho have stuck Martial out on the wings.
Who would you put on the LM/LW position if United were to shift Martial to ST role? Only likely contender is Rashford and people will argue that even he should be playing as a striker and not out wide . I personally feel it's much more important to have good wide players than a good striker.
Just needs that one goal and one performance to get him going.
We're going to need goals from other outfield players to help Ibra, at the moment goals are only coming from him.
We're going to need goals from other outfield players to help Ibra, at the moment goals are only coming from him.
How about this fellas...?
------------------DDG-------------------
TFM-------Bailly------Smalling------Rojo
-----------------Blind---------------------
------Herrera--------------Pogba--------
Mata-------------------------------Martial
----------------Rashford------------------
------------------DDG-------------------
TFM-------Bailly------Smalling------Rojo
-----------------Blind---------------------
------Herrera--------------Pogba--------
Mata-------------------------------Martial
----------------Rashford------------------
Well that's the big question. There is an argument to say play 3 at the back and have attacking LWB & RWB with Martial & Rashford both as Strikers. The other option is to give Memphis another shot at LW. Let's see if the arrival of Jose had made him get his head down and work harder. The talent is there, its just his attitude.
However I am happy Martial playing LM/LW for the time being as Ibra has become a crucial part of our team.
No ifs about it, the players obviously get their runs on several distances timed during training and if Martial wasn't consistently beating him he wouldn't come out saying this.
Don't know why some say he doesn't look THAT rapid or gives that impression, he was also the joint fastest with Vardy with last season half gone:
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...layer-in-Premier-League-with-Jamie-Vardy.aspx
And here he is recorded as he fastest United player of last season, quite a bit faster than Marcus:
http://m.goal.com/s/en-za/news/4639...d-as-manchester-uniteds-fastest-player-of-the
Starts. Never been more desperate for a player to play well.
This!
I said it at the start of the season and I'll say it again now, if we are gonna win the league (or anything) this year then we need this boy fit and firing again at top form because he's so unique in our squad in what he offers. Here's hoping he bags 3 tonight and looks his usual self, putting talk of 'second season syndrome' into touch.
I agree.
Said the same in the first few pages. We might have signed some big players but imo, he's still our most important player.
The difference between a title challenge and another top 4 fight is how we do against teams that sit back. Imo, if we are to consistently break down sides, we need Martial opening teams up. With the exception of Rasford, we don't have a player even remotely close to him in terms of running at defenders. The earlier he finds form, the better for us.
Yeh I'm hoping this is just a momentary dip and he will regain confidence soon but that's the unfortunate nature of young players where inconsistency can be an issue.
Feyenoord 1:0 Man Utd
At least he looks interested today, running at defenders.
Yeh been bright but we have been limp in attack. Hasn't had anywhere near enough service.
We move the ball far too slowly. They close us down far too easily. No space for Martial or Rashford.
Encouraging to see him ghost past players again, but needs to show more.
If he had scored that one shot, it could've been called a good half. Would've been great for his confidence as well. As long as we don't have any control in midfield though, him and Rashford are gonna struggle due to a lack of space.
Sick of seeing his lack of movement to be honest. Should be playing on the shoulder of the last defender and getting in behind. We are happy to pump balls in the air to our tall players, drop them in behind for our fast players FFS. Either he gets a lot of joy or it forces the other teams defence to defend really deep then we can pick them off. He's offering nothing at the moment.
He wasn't bad today. Got in behind on occasion.
The commentator on my channel said some nonsense about how bringing Young and Depay on was "bringing pace" to the team.
We'd just bloody taken off Rashford and Martial!
Not impressed by him again.
Martial is too keen to have the ball set to his feet. Before this he had done well to go past defending players, so it's ok. But it is not the case at this moment. He should learn to vary his playing style.
I thought he was decent in the first half, certainly the best attacker we had, but didn't get going in the second.
The way we set up isn't helping him either. Martial is at his best when he runs at players. But we now play very narrow. Our wide players are always tucked in instead of staying wide which is limiting the space to run into something he got plenty last season.
Martial is our most dangerous attacking outlet and we need to create his favorable conditions so that he can thrive on. Look at the likes of Sterling, Hazard and how poor they're last season and how good now they look. We on the other hand, have our two most dangerous attacking threats from last season struggling!
Martial is our most dangerous attacking outlet and we need to create his favorable conditions so that he can thrive on. Look at the likes of Sterling, Hazard and how poor they're last season and how good now they look. We on the other hand, have our two most dangerous attacking threats from last season struggling!
I saw him make a run in behind several times this season and a few times in this match. He was ignored and herrera or schneiderlin passed it safely sideways. Everytime this happened he had a disgusted type of body language.
Maybe he gave up.
Probably his best performance of the season, so that tells you how bad he has been so far. We really need to start seeing more from players like him, and fast.
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