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Martial should be tried as a striker , he is struggling in a wide role as his strenghts are different to what mourinho requires.
 
What annoys me is that the balls movement stops with him and he tries to wait and take people on from just beyond the half way line. No team in todays game has wingers who does that on a consistent basis because it is highly disruptive to the attack. Martial has to look to keep the ball moving and find the right moments to take people on.
 
I agree that Lingard wanders a lot and so does Mata but I think that's what Jose wants them to do, whereas Martial is doing the opposite.

Under LvG every player had a rigid position and was told not to move from a very specific area of the pitch. Herrera done this, and scored, and received a bollocking from LvG. Therefore under him Martial's natural way of playing was great because he would stay wide (if playing left) or up top (if playing no. 9). However, under Mourinho I think he is trying to encourage all players to be far more relaxed and maneuverable across the front line, instead of playing a very specific are. You see Zlatan drop all over the place, Lingard and Mata move around and Rashford does this too. Martial is doing the exact same as last season but it is making him stand out as being lazy. I don't think he is lazy, just saying that is the impression he is giving by staying wide left. The stats show this, by staying in the same position he is running less, as opposed to the players who are going and getting involved and trying to affect the play.

In the second period of extra time last night, he started moving inside and running different channels, which is what I think he should be doing. I think this is exactly what Jose is trying to make him do, and he is a much better player when he is affecting the play by changing running patterns and trying different things. Fwiw, I don't think he will be sold at all, and if he can do more of what he was doing at the end last night in the next few games he will become a starting player again.

This makes sense. Hence why Mourinho would make the statement that he should "give me what I want " and be more "like Rashford". Kudos to Mourinho for making this correction in his game. From watching all the other top teams play, there isn't one team that has a player stay rigid in one position during offense. Not one. If he wants to have a sucessful career he needs to be complete both on and off the ball. When he does, all the other EPL teams need to watch out because in a few years, he will set fire to any defence he comes in contact with.
 
I agree that Lingard wanders a lot and so does Mata but I think that's what Jose wants them to do, whereas Martial is doing the opposite.

Under LvG every player had a rigid position and was told not to move from a very specific area of the pitch. Herrera done this, and scored, and received a bollocking from LvG. Therefore under him Martial's natural way of playing was great because he would stay wide (if playing left) or up top (if playing no. 9). However, under Mourinho I think he is trying to encourage all players to be far more relaxed and maneuverable across the front line, instead of playing a very specific are. You see Zlatan drop all over the place, Lingard and Mata move around and Rashford does this too. Martial is doing the exact same as last season but it is making him stand out as being lazy. I don't think he is lazy, just saying that is the impression he is giving by staying wide left. The stats show this, by staying in the same position he is running less, as opposed to the players who are going and getting involved and trying to affect the play.

In the second period of extra time last night, he started moving inside and running different channels, which is what I think he should be doing. I think this is exactly what Jose is trying to make him do, and he is a much better player when he is affecting the play by changing running patterns and trying different things. Fwiw, I don't think he will be sold at all, and if he can do more of what he was doing at the end last night in the next few games he will become a starting player again.
This sums it up pretty nicely.
 
Really has to step it up in the opportunities he's going to get given now that Zlatan is out. We need him at his best if we're to get anything out of this season.
He can only step up if he is selected to be part of the team. This is our tomorrow, Jose, today should let whatever he has against this lad go. Let the kids fly. We will be more than alright.
 
I think this is exactly what Jose is trying to make him do, and he is a much better player when he is affecting the play by changing running patterns and trying different things. Fwiw, I don't think he will be sold at all, and if he can do more of what he was doing at the end last night in the next few games he will become a starting player again.

Great post!
 
We should play him up top with Rashford in a 442.

Lingard Pogba Herrera Mkhi
Rashford Martial
 
We should play him up top with Rashford in a 442.

Lingard Pogba Herrera Mkhi
Rashford Martial
I can never understand why people think striker is his best position. Game isn't suited to it at all in my opinion.
 
I can never understand why people think striker is his best position. Game isn't suited to it at all in my opinion.

I think he'd be perfect as a second striker like Griezmann is.

From there, he can receive the ball into feet on the half turn and be devastating once he accelerates. He is drawn to central positions and loves to play quick one-two's. I could see him flourishing there away from home with the right midfield behind him.

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I think he'd be perfect as a second striker like Griezmann is.

From there, he can receive the ball into feet on the half turn and be devastating once he accelerates. He is drawn to central positions and loves to play quick one-two's. I could see him flourishing there away from home with the right midfield behind him.

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_____________________Rashford____________
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____Lingard___Pogba__Herrera__Mkhitaryan____​

Don't see him as an SS tbf. He won't be as what you believe I reckon.

His best position is a wing forward in a 4-3-3 , cutting inside from the left all the time and not on the flank as we he was playing last season.
 
Don't see him as an SS tbf. He won't be as what you believe I reckon.

His best position is a wing forward in a 4-3-3 , cutting inside from the left all the time and not on the flank as we he was playing last season.

He has the talent to play a number of positions. His vision is very underrated. A lot of his good work outside of dribbling 1 vs 1 is done in central areas.

I don't think he should play SS every game, but it would certainly be useful away from home against more ambitious teams who leave space behind to exploit.
 
He has the talent to play a number of positions. His vision is very underrated. A lot of his good work outside of dribbling 1 vs 1 is done in central areas.

I don't think he should play SS every game, but it would certainly be useful away from home against more ambitious teams who leave space behind to exploit.

Anyway he'll get more game times the next period due to the injury crisis we have so I hope he takes it well and gain Jose's trust. He can solve many of our problems offensively if he steps up.
 
He has the talent to play a number of positions. His vision is very underrated. A lot of his good work outside of dribbling 1 vs 1 is done in central areas.

I don't think he should play SS every game, but it would certainly be useful away from home against more ambitious teams who leave space behind to exploit.

Think he would be absolutely terrible in that position tbh. An SS needs good movement, he has no movement, they need to be able to work in tight spaces, he's shown many a time he looks clueless when he runs into defenders this season, needs good anticipation to be in the right place at the right time to finish chances, also a very weak area of his game.

His best position is out wide as a LF, he's just shite this season, he could play anywhere and I don't see it changing until whatever the issue with him is resolved.
 
Think he would be absolutely terrible in that position tbh. An SS needs good movement, he has no movement, they need to be able to work in tight spaces, he's shown many a time he looks clueless when he runs into defenders this season, needs good anticipation to be in the right place at the right time to finish chances, also a very weak area of his game.

His best position is out wide as a LF, he's just shite this season, he could play anywhere and I don't see it changing until whatever the issue with him is resolved.

If Martial is how you describe him, he shouldn't be a professional footballer. :lol:
 
If Martial is how you describe him, he shouldn't be a professional footballer. :lol:

He has his strengths, he's very good with the ball at his feet, when on form he can skin defenders if they're isolated, has pace, can curl the ball into the net when cutting into the box etc. but he's still very young. Those are weaknesses in his game that he can certainly improve with hardwork, but a position like SS requires very good knowledge of the game and a particular skill-set that I don't think Martial has.
 
It puzzles me why martial is not tried as a striker..especially after last year performance and the amount of money paid..any idea ?
 
It puzzles me why martial is not tried as a striker..especially after last year performance and the amount of money paid..any idea ?
Yes, as detailed by one of the other posters above, his skill set isn't suited to it, that'd be my take. He also lacks anticipation when it comes to getting into good positions in the box.
 
He's a natural number 9.
If that's the case, and Rashford is also a natural number 9, then I don't see the need for signing a new number 9.
I viewed Martial as a natural inside left, but suspected that number 9 is maybe his best position. The problem is that Rashford is progressing better.
 
If that's the case, and Rashford is also a natural number 9, then I don't see the need for signing a new number 9.
I viewed Martial as a natural inside left, but suspected that number 9 is maybe his best position. The problem is that Rashford is progressing better.

I would be surprised if Martial turns out a better player than Rashford, he might be a little more talented, but Rashford's desire is on a completely different level. If either of the two are going to be our star number 9 in the future, it'll be Rashford, imo anyway.

Martial was originally a number 9, but he played out wide for Monaco too. His skill set is more suited to a Left forward role, especially currently as his movement is non-existent. He likes the ball at his feet, but as a striker that's not always a possibility, especially not against packed defences, like we've come up against this season. Unless he dramatically improves those aspects of his game, LF is where I see his future position, it suits his strengths most. He still needs to work on those aspects of his game regardless, so maybe with time he could turn into a full time striker. That being said, if we were to implement a two striker system, maybe it could work, but I still think Lingard would be a better fit for Rashford in that sort of system due to his hard work, pressing etc.

I still think we need to sign a top striker this summer, it's looking likely Ibra is going to be off, Rooney too, we can't put our trust in two youngsters, as good as they can be, they've still got a lot to learn. We need some experience up top.
 
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Yes, but his incredible form for us last season was mostly being played as a left forward. As of now, I think that's his best position.
Martial scored 7 goals and assisted 3 goals in 1513 minutes of action in the EPL on the left(151 minutes per contribution)
Martial assisted 1 goal and scored two in 810 minutes of play(270 minutes per contribution)
(last season)

The stats support your assertion. And his quick dribbling game is most suited towards the left side
 
I would be surprised if Martial turns out a better player than Rashford, he might be a little more talented, but Rashford's desire is on a completely different level. If either of the two are going to be our star number 9 in the future, it'll be Rashford, imo anyway.

Martial was originally a number 9, but he played out wide for Monaco too. His skill set is more suited to a Left forward role, especially currently as his movement is non-existent. He likes the ball at his feet, but as a striker that's not always a possibility, especially not against packed defences, like we've come up against this season. Unless he dramatically improves those aspects of his game, LF is where I see his future position, it suits his strengths most. He still needs to work on those aspects of his game regardless, so maybe with time he could turn into a full time striker. That being said, if we were to implement a two striker system, maybe it could work, but I still think Lingard would be a better fit for Rashford in that sort of system due to his hard work, pressing etc.

I still think we need to sign a top striker this summer, it's looking likely Ibra is going to be off, Rooney too, we can't put our trust in two youngsters, as good as they can be, they've still got a lot to learn. We need some experience up top.
I can't really argue with any of that.
 
He's a natural number 9.
Chicarito was a natural no. 9. Martial is not (yet). He really lacks that key movements to make him dangerous around the box. His key strengths at the moment is his dribbling and speed from the wings. Plus, nothing wrong in playing in the wings and let him gain more experiences before moving him to the center. His french compatriot before him started on the wings e.g. Benzema, Griezmann, Lacazette.
 
I have a feeling Rashford will be rested in this match after playing so much (at such a high intensity) in the last two matches, keeping him fresh for City. That means that, unless Jose plays Fellaini up front, Martial will get a chance tonight to play as the main striker.
 
Gets another bite at the cherry today. Here's hoping for a great performance. Come on Anthony!
 
He scored only 12 goals in 48 matches is his last season with Monaco so if he was a striker then that's not very impressive stats for a number 9 sadly.

He actually played quite a bit on the right wing at Monaco. Which is strange in hindsight.
 
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