Think Martial just played Rashford right into the starting 11 on Sunday.
Or Miki, or Lingard, or basically anyone but Martial. Awful.
Or Miki, or Lingard, or basically anyone but Martial. Awful.
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Doesn't give a hoot. Rashford worked his arse off and he doesn't even want to play there, Martial has been really really poor recently
I dont get these martial fanboys. He can do no wrong in their eyes and it's everybody else's fault but Martial.
He's the French Memphis as far as I'm concerned. The potentials there but the attitude + commitment clearly isn't.
Starting to lose patience with him now
He's the French Memphis as far as I'm concerned. The potentials there but the attitude + commitment clearly isn't.
Starting to lose patience with him now
Correct. He managed to show what he's got under LVG - whom many people feel is far 'inferior' to Jose. So why is so shit under Mourinho I wonder..
Your post on Luke Shaw recently.
"Form, lack of confidence after injury etc are understandable. Lack of effort isn't. If he can't be arsed applying himself I've no idea why people are rushing to protect him. The club can't allow a culture to develop where lazy players can get away with it."
Why is Martial different?
Nah. that SteveW will defend Martial no matter how badly he plays based on last season.
There's nothing "selective" about it - he's had like 3 good games all season (against lowly opposition). Why do you think he's getting dropped after playing "well"? He's a liability at the moment and a shadow of last season; luxury player.
Maybe, but his commitment doesn't seem to be there.
I don't think him and Jose see eye-to-eye.
Tbf Jose had no intention of starting Martial. I've given up seeing him.
When he was playing well very briefly Jose dropped him. Now he's shit, there is no way he'll be picked to start.
That's a shame. All Jose's fault for coming in with attitude towards the boy.
Mbappe better never come here.
He didn't lose the ball every time. The right back guessed and slid well. Also, he created a good chance for Pogba.
Nothing he did worked but he played 27 minutes only.
He had a good first season and is having a bad second season right now.. very common for young players.
Besides that he had his first season while playing under a manager (despite his flaws) know for working well with young players and now has to play the more difficult second season under a manager who is not know for his great work with young players.
Hopefully he shows his talent again next season and he stays at OT.
Besides that he had his first season while playing under a manager (despite his flaws) know for working well with young players and now has to play the more difficult second season under a manager who is not know for his great work with young players.
Hopefully he shows his talent again next season and he stays at OT.
He did the same move over and over again and the defender read him everytime.
I think he needs the season to end and to have a good break in the summer and come back refreshed. The talent is there but it's just not happening for him this season
I think he needs the season to end and to have a good break in the summer and come back refreshed. The talent is there but it's just not happening for him this season
Why exactly do you feel so, out of interest? He was absolute trash tonight. And has been quite regularly recently. Do you feel that merits inclusion in the side? I don't. Repeated bad performances mean you should lose your place.
Well he was poor. When you can't dribble past players multiple times, maybe try something else like shifting sideways and pass. Looks absolutely shot on confidence.
How was he awful? Those two right sided defenders were really good for Anderlecht. It's not as if he didnt try.
He was dreadful tonight though.
That moment where he just stands there and gets caught on the ball has nothing to do with him trying something spectacular.
He was just being dopey.
Exactly.
Nothing Martial did came off but Rashford has had mares as well yet after today the caf is discussing if he's better than Mbappe or not.
I'm a bit worried with his mentality more than anything. When he came here the first thing I thought was that he is everything our side was missing. He could dribble, he was strong, good hold up, his finishing was strong, he was quick as hell, seemingly intelligent and most of all it looked like the pricetag didn't affect him at all.
Now, he doesn't use his strength, he tries the same trick over and over again, he never dribbles past players any more and his finishing ain't there. What's wrong with him?
Selling him would be daft though. We'll be a much better side in a year or two, I am sure of it.
Now, he doesn't use his strength, he tries the same trick over and over again, he never dribbles past players any more and his finishing ain't there. What's wrong with him?
Selling him would be daft though. We'll be a much better side in a year or two, I am sure of it.
Bad day again. Isn't playing instinctively like he did last year at his best. Seems like he's being forced into that by a combination of his lack of confidence in himself and what looks like his teammates lack of confidence in him. Don't think Mourinho's handled him well this year but also don't think he's helped himself either.
Some real nonsense being posted here. where to even start? one cretin starting with the whole criticise the post not the poster rubbish becuase someone called it as it is. I generally agree with that but don't be a baby. Support your players, dont just rip them to pieces every time you dont get the win you seem to feel entitled to every time we play. Ge played 20 mins. Its not his fault we didnt win. Have your little cry alone. Dont force the world to read it. And no, defending a player doesn't make me some pretend martyr. How the hell could an Internet poster be a martyr? That's idiotic
When Rashford plays badly, he gets grief also. The difference is that Rashford shows a lot more tenacity in my opinion, shows a lot more movement, and tries different things. Martial doesn't look arsed half the time, and does the same thing over and over.
No direction from the manager/coaching staff and most importantly, zero confidence.
Was trying tonight just didn't come off, maybe lacking a bit of confidence too.
Martial is out of form, i am not arguing that.
But i blame jose for that. With some players jose was right but with martial he did it wrong. Rashford and lingard had some awful games but still they played next game and game after that.
So their confidence is high. They know that they can have bad move, bad game but still will play next game.
Martial does not have any credit. One bad game or cameo, he goes on the bench.
And of course his confidence is low after that.
Give him couple of games in first 11 and let him play without pressure.
Now i am really worried for him. He is bigger talent than rashford and he is playing like shit.
But i blame jose for that. With some players jose was right but with martial he did it wrong. Rashford and lingard had some awful games but still they played next game and game after that.
So their confidence is high. They know that they can have bad move, bad game but still will play next game.
Martial does not have any credit. One bad game or cameo, he goes on the bench.
And of course his confidence is low after that.
Give him couple of games in first 11 and let him play without pressure.
Now i am really worried for him. He is bigger talent than rashford and he is playing like shit.
Its not the trying to take on a man and losing out which annoys me (that can happen to loads of players), it was the other stuff that annoyed me (which was basically nothing).
All of this.
Jose has his favourites. Always felt from the very beginning that he wasn't keen on Martial for some strange reason. Never mentioned him in interviews unless prompted. Probably hates the fact that Martial quite liked LVG
Manager was directly quoted as saying Shaws effort was lacking. Martial just played badly. Unless you're a complete moron the difference should be easy enough to grasp
Looks like his confidence is shot. Got the ball taken off him whenever he tried to run at the opposition. Should still be a starter for me and he will be class again when he gets his confidence back but he will be benched again for a long while now. It's difficult for him given Jose seems to treat him a little more harshly than our other attackers.
Certainly and that's why Mourinho gives him more chances even when he has a bad game. He likes that warrior spirit.
I think Martial is both low on confidence and not happy with his overall situation. Everything's been a bit off with Mourinho from the start and he doesn't seem motivated enough (to me) to work himself into the team. He looks like he's checked out.
Martial has been poor since the Euros. He had a few decent games in December.
That Stevew. Awful. More crybabies is what we really need
Mourinho tactics does not compliment Martial's game at all. Something has to change or one of them would be leaving.
Haha. So I'm a cretin now, pretty obvious you're talking about me, as I did state that. So, you agree with stating don't attack the poster, attack the post .. unless of course it's said against you? Fair enough.
My "criticism" of the player stemmed from saying that he shouldn't keep his place in the side when he plays utter trash. I stand by that comment. I've supported my club for years and years, and spent quite a few pounds going to see them play. As such, I stand by my right to criticise any player I wish, on any given day.
You can insult me, call me a baby, a cretin, an idiot etc ... tell me to go crying to Mammy (still not sure how I did this) but I will keep doing it.
Incidentally, sorry I insulted your wickle Anthony sugar lump, I'll try not to do it in future. He should play regardless of how abject a performance he turns in. How does that work?
eat a dick Tony
And I can see with my own eyes that Martial's is lacking. You're the only one who's mental acuity will be called into question the way you're getting on. It seems you'll only do it all it takes to defend certain players.
Yes he does. But he also needs to vary his management technique slightly depending on the player's personality and what he's capable of. Mourinho is too one dimensional like this. If he'd had a young Ronaldo (who was quite frustrating at times), he'd have frozen him out. Doesn't have the patience nor the nous to deal with certain talents and all their idiosyncrasies.
Your version of 'defending' the player is by name calling posters who have a different opinion than you.
You seem to be on the edge calling people names. Martial had a poor game not being able to impact in anyway and looks shot on confidence. It isn't anyone's fault that people expect good things from a player who was arguably one of our best player last season. And this isn't one match, has been the case throughout the season. It's up to him to remedy this and criticising what's clear to see is hardly wrong. Some people will go over the top and you can just ignore the hyperbole instead of making it sound like there isn't a case for criticism at all.
Young forwards have been poor under Mourinho, historically. No surprise Martial's game has suffered. Will go on to be a top player, else where most likely.
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