Of course we would...a title?...of course...deary me. Martial is not a bloody Cantona and actually....he hasn't set the world alight this season when he has played. Also his agent is a total c%£t....
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Of course we would...a title?...of course...deary me. Martial is not a bloody Cantona and actually....he hasn't set the world alight this season when he has played. Also his agent is a total c%£t....
Same side is about to win their 2nd League in 3 years.
The 1st Chelsea side he built lasted a decade.
He sold them and won the league ffs
Hardly, was marked out of the game and apart from looking good for the first 20 minutes or so was anonymous since.
Plenty of games coming up for him, Shaw & co. to force their way back in.
Not worried in slightest, excellent game today, the last time we lost in the league was a long long time ago.
Not worried in slightest, excellent game today, the last time we lost in the league was a long long time ago.
People are standing up for Martial but I think many of you are forgetting that Mkhi was in a similar position 2 months ago... Even then Mourinho stated that the attitude of both players and the demeanour of their agents is totally different.
Fast forward a few months and Mkhi is an almost certain starter every game while Martial get an appearance here and there... Not saying that Mourinho couldn't have managed Martial better, but some of you are just too eager to criticize him.
Fast forward a few months and Mkhi is an almost certain starter every game while Martial get an appearance here and there... Not saying that Mourinho couldn't have managed Martial better, but some of you are just too eager to criticize him.
And then got sacked.
There's no other reason Martial isn't playing other than not applying himself. If he doesn't respond to Mourinho's challenge and agitates to leave he's not the right type of player to have at the club. Mkhitaryan has risen to the same challenge and is thriving. The suggestion we should back players who don't want to work hard and earn their spots over a manager who is trying to establish a culture in a team that has underachieved for 4 years is absurd and it is completely how you end being weak and brittle like Arsenal do.
Sold them and could not break down the small teams ,finished third realised that he needed creative players then bought Fabregas. If you remember well that season Chelsea could beat all the big teams but failed when faced with small teams that parked the bus.
I simply think this is what is happening here. I can't think of another explanation. There is no way in hell, Mourinho would want rid of Martial, given the level of our squad.
He can only perform agiant the team Jose plays against. You can't challenge him to show he deserves to start, then respond to him playing well by saying "lol but those teams I played you against were shit. Off to the bench you go."
There is nothing to suggest this is the case. You're speculating in an inherent move to support the manager you think you should be backing.
I think the reason why it feels different is that Martial has had a good run of games whereas Mkhiki hadn't even had a run of games.
Fergie sold Pique to keep Evans. It's all about circumstance - Oscar was deemed the best fit for the tactics Mourinho was using, which is why he sold Mata then and has kept him now.
I really hope Mourinho finds a way to resolve his issue with Martial, whatever they are. I'm inclined to believe it's a grudge of some kind, because he's looked more dangerous than any other player we've stuck out on the left, but I'm hoping that it's Mourinho's way of testing Martial's mentality and driving him to become better, because that's the only way that this ends well for us.
We should be complaining about that Ashley Young sub more than anything else. In fact, there was no reason not to bring Martial on at around the 60th minute mark considering the game was done.
Other than that though, I don't think Martial has done enough this season to show that he deserves a starting spot over some of our match winners.
Other than that though, I don't think Martial has done enough this season to show that he deserves a starting spot over some of our match winners.
And I'm sure it's the same with Shaw
It just goes to show that this has nothing to do with merit. Martial has been one of our better players of late and easily the best left winger. Rashford has been pretty crap. Yet Mourinho benches or drops the former in the last two games and starts the latter.
It doesn't have to be Martial either. He may go elsewhere and tear it up and become the world beater he can.
It's probably nothing more than Jose doing his usual thing of rewarding under-used players for their attitude & hard work. He often regrets, publicly, that he can't give everyone regular games.
And maybe Martial is just concentrating on spouting off via his agent rather then getting his head down and doing what is asked of him.
Rashford deserves a starting sport? Does Lingard? Both have been awful when starting games off that wing.
Absolutely. There's no way Rashford and Lingard are playing left wing on merit over Martial. Call it "protecting" him or whatever it is that Jose thinks he's doing but it's not merit based. He'll suddenly throw in Martial in March, realize he's actually pretty good and then pretend like it was a masterstroke like he thought his Mkhi treatment was.
Minutes given in last five matches:
He's got 4 goals and 3 assists in his last 7 starts. What more do you want?
His agent hasn't said anything since December.
In fairness, in terms of the Young sub, it would've been pointless to stick on Martial with that little time left. Even with 20 mins left it would've been pointless. Not much interest from either team to really do anything apart from letting the clock run down.
Everything @Damien has posted clearly shows that Martial has been performing well of late and out performing many of our other attackers. He simply deserves to play. Jose better not feck this up.
Sad part is Mkhitarian was at least frozen out and hence you couldn't point to his good form. Martial on the other hand has shown good improvement but is still ignored. P
Good response on the matter by José to be fair.
I hope him and Martial are communicating properly and have some sort of plan to ease him back into the line up. However, i'm still not happy with how Mourinho has handled this since he has gone further than he did with Mkhitaryans situation, and Martial is very much needed at the moment since Rashford isn't good enough as a starter. At least these comments hints that the relationship between them hasn't totally broken down.
Yeah, but he should just shut up, work hard and play well. Or something.
That's the most important thing in this whole issue.
I dont care if Martial is lazy during training or whatever the reason may be. If he performs better than others in a match, he should be in the start 11. Easy as it is
Agree with this but there is something really fishy with Mou and young talents. Just look at Rashford, half the player he was last year..
Martial hasnt done anything worse than other players this year but Mou has come out and said he needed to be sensational to be in the team..
Fellaini isnt a United player and Young is leaving but still no minutes for Martial..
Glad we won but something is not right..
Miki is 28 and this worked with him but a 20 year old and French not sure.
Mourinho is a short term manager. He acts and thinks like a short term manager.
You can argue that the cost of persisting with Martial might be high in the short term but the potential benefit in the long run is massive. The long run is not something that matters that much to Jose. There is no shame in that, we knew what kind of manager he is when we hired him.
You can argue that the cost of persisting with Martial might be high in the short term but the potential benefit in the long run is massive. The long run is not something that matters that much to Jose. There is no shame in that, we knew what kind of manager he is when we hired him.
Neither deserve the spot any more than Martial does, but I guess that's where attitude rather than ability gives them the nod over Martial.
Something's happening off the pitch, even when Martial puts in a good perfirmace he's usually dropped for the next game.
He needs a run of games even when he's not playing well stick with him the end result will be worth it.
He needs a run of games even when he's not playing well stick with him the end result will be worth it.
Did Mourinho got asked why Martial didn't played today?
Some on here clearly have issues with Mourinho and are just jumping on any chance to criticize him. From what I've seen this season, I trust him 100% to do right by this football club. I don't buy all this unfair treatment of Martial bollocks. There's no reason to think Mourinho is doing anything other than man-managing Martial in the best interests of both himself and the team. Reading the comments, I wouldn't be surprised if many of you just want him to feck off out of OT. It's quite sad really.
That alone tells us that something is up. Jose said that Martial would have to be 'magnificent' to make the team...a team in which no-one else is playing magnificently. The over-strong, sarcastic wording suggests to me that Mou is unhappy with Tony (or his people).
The comment is on Miki how does that hint anything as far as the relationship with martial is concerned.
Feckin hell, win a match and the main topic is who didn't play.
Personally disappointed he played no part, but 2 threads at top of home page are both about Martial. Crazy stuff...
Personally disappointed he played no part, but 2 threads at top of home page are both about Martial. Crazy stuff...
The standard used on Martial is absurd. And then using miki as the reason why he wasnt playing when he doesnt play on the left...its just all very dramatic.
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