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Except playing Rashford out of position or bringing Fellaini or even Young ahead of him isn't better for the team at all. It's just Mourinho being Mourinho. By yeah let's believe everything Mourinho does is great.
Rashford playing wide is incredible for his development. Almost every great striker of the last 15 years has played on the flanks early in their careers.
 
Hilarious. A 3-0 away win at the premier league champions to move to within 2 points of top 4, playing some great stuff...but hey, let's get rid of Jose because he's not playing 1 player.

Is there any chance Young had a good week in training, thus deserved a chance? I'm guessing not, seems like about 20 people saw training this week, judging by the "what has he done to deserve a game" comments.
Piss off in that I dont agree with the decision and id like our most proven, talented left attacking player to actually play

Annoyed as players like Ibra, Rooney, Pogba, Fellaini have been able to have poor games and are immune to being subbed, certainly in Ibra/Pogba's case whilst Martial, a young player having a tough second season has pressure heaped on as he has to be 'magnificent' to keep his place

I didn't watch training this week but I did watch Martial's last 45 minutes where he had 2 assists and a goal disallowed. This incidently wasnt 'magnificent' enough to earn Martial a minute on the pitch when we needed a win vrs Hull or today

We don't know whats going on behind the scenes but something is certainly rotten in the state of Denmark..... it depends on opinions.... some are happy to see the tose tinted view... Mhiki had to be dropped all those games for the likes of Lingard, Martial must have a bad attitude or maybe you take Jose's track record into account

Either way I hope its sorted soon or we might leave a potentially world class talent and Im not talking about Ashley Young
 
It's the Mourinho effect. Spend a lot, win one title in 3 years, and then screw over the team in the long run shipping away all your best young talent. Nothing new to see here. He's a control freak with an ego. If you follow his plan then great. Otherwise he points you to the door. Terrible man management, but if it gets us at least a title in the next two seasons, I think most people at the club will take that.
 
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There is only one loser here if this situation continues and it's not our manager.
 
got no hope he knows how to do this. The man has won things but he ain't no SAF. Just lacks tact and understanding of how to deal with different personalities.

SAF fell out with players too and has admitted he could have handled situations differently. I think we have to back the manager, whether that was SAF or Jose now, to deal with the players as they see fit. We might not like it as fans but the managers see far more of them than us.
 
Just to get you all mentally prepared he's not going to start next week either.
 
Ok its not clear but for me, based on the subs made, the Mourinho quotes about Martial that there is a personal issue

As we chatted the other day there is no evidence of an attitude problem in the past for Martial and to bring on Young.... who has no long term future at the club is a clear message (in my opinion)

There actually is.
 
I'm pretty sure Mou knows what he is doing. There has to be something that Mou wants in his game that he isn't executing well and that maybe the reason for his absence. That being said, it's not as if he was ripping apart the teams that we are just protesting his lack of game time.
 
I don't think something like that is really going on tbh. Martial will get more starts in the future no doubt. There just wasn't any reason to put him on when we're winning. I'm sure he would have come in had it still been 0-0.
I'm sorry, not confident that Jose is not being petty, though I hope you're right.
 
Mourinho's ego is something else.
I'm not holding my breath, but I wish someone would advise Martial to just keep his head down and keep working and don't let Mourinho drive him out!
Martial has a contract so Jose just has to deal with it. Insane behaviour from the manager.

But this is all assumptions, no? Me, you or anybody else doesn't know what is happening to sit here blaming Mourinho is pretty ridiculous imo.
 
Hasn't shown it in the league this year.

He's been our most threatening attacker when given the opportunity over the past month or so. What Martial needs is regular game time.

He's going to be an unbelievably good footballer. We need to make sure it happens here.
 
Sorry guys if it irritates you but it looks like I am lost. Someone please tell me why Martial is being ignored by Mourinho ?
 
But this is all assumptions, no? Me, you or anybody else doesn't know what is happening to sit here blaming Mourinho is pretty ridiculous imo.
But Mourinho hasn't provided any logical reasons for leaving the lad out, so what are people suppose to assume?
 
Yeah, seems that way. Unless he's trying to push him to do more in training to earn his place or whatever, and if he doesn't then he goes.



Eh? He's had one pretty decent season. As someone else said, it's not Anthony Martial FC.

Some people are pretty attached to Martial ey
It's also not Zlatan, Pogba or Rashford FC, but those players seem to be immune from being dropped even when they're crap. When you introduce double standards, you rightfully get criticised, and Jose seems to expect Martial to be spectauclar every game whilst Rashford just has to run around like a headless chicken and gets selected time and again. The latter hasnt scored a goal since September ffs!
 
Too much panic about nothing. He had some problems (divorce fallout) in his personal life and that's pretty much it.

When he'll be ready, he'll play. We got tons of cup games ahead plus matches in the league we have to win.
 
We just won 3-0 in a great display.

Not the time to worry about Martial!
 
We knew what we were getting with Jose, a guy who can win things with established players. He's clueless when it comes to developing and nurturing young players, despite throwing around a list of young debutants at his initial presser.

I admire Pep for dropping Aguero and playing Sane, Sterling and Jesus, and it's paying off for them. Jose clearly does not have the same qualities when it comes to young players, and it's for this reason I dont think he'll be a long term manager with us. Why would you treat one of the best young players in world football like dirt? The other teams in the league would love to have player of this calibre. Martial will be another Pogba situation, he'll go elsewhere become world class, but we wont be able to buy him back.

You do know that our younger, academy player is playing in Martial's position, right?
 
He's been our most threatening attacker when given the opportunity over the past month or so. What Martial needs is regular game time.

He's going to be an unbelievably good footballer. We need to make sure it happens here.

Having good players with no mental fortitude is how you end up like Arsenal.
 
Why even put him on the bench if there's no way he'd get any minutes? I don't buy that Fellaini was a needed change. We were 3 goals up and Leicester weren't offering anything. We really didn't need Fellaini. And when he finally takes off the ineffective Rashford he puts Young on, a player who clearly doesn't have much of a future here. Those were the ideal circumstances to give Martial some much needed minutes. I can't think of any other explanation than that Mourinho has already made up his mind about him.
 
It's also not Zlatan, Pogba or Rashford FC, but those players seem to be immune from being dropped even when they're crap. When you introduce double standards, you rightfully get criticised, and Jose seems to expect Martial to be spectauclar every game whilst Rashford just has to run around like a headless chicken and gets selected time and again. The latter hasnt scored a goal since September ffs!
Rashfords last goal was in the same game as martials.
 
It's the Mourinho effect. Spend a lot, win one title in 3 years, and then screw over the team in the long run shipping away all your best young talent. Nothing new to see here. He's a control freak with an ego. If you follow his plan then great. Otherwise he points you to the door. Terrible management, but if it gets you a title once in 3 years, I think most people at the club will take that.

This. Sold Mata and De Bryune to keep Oscar. Present day Oscar is in China whilst the other two are still playing regularly for top sides
 
But Mourinho hasn't provided any logical reasons for leaving the lad out, so what are people suppose to assume?

He doesn't need to provide us an explanation, he is the manager. What he says goes.

It's also not Zlatan, Pogba or Rashford FC, but those players seem to be immune from being dropped even when they're crap. When you introduce double standards, you rightfully get criticised, and Jose seems to expect Martial to be spectauclar every game whilst Rashford just has to run around like a headless chicken and gets selected time and again. The latter hasnt scored a goal since September ffs!

Zlatan, Pogba - These guys can win games with the flick of a wrist, even when playing poorly.

Rashford I tend to agree with you on, although he must be doing something right somewhere.

It is easy for us to sit watching on TV criticizing players. Mourinho gets to see these guys perform each week from the touchline and he gets to analyze what they do in training.

Rashford obviously does what the manager expects of him wheras Martial quite clearly does not.
 
You do know that our younger, academy player is playing in Martial's position, right?
Yeah, whose game isnt developing, because of the point I made, that Jose doesnt know how to handle young players. Rashford will not develop into a top CF under Jose. Shaw is another one. You're seriously not contending this point, are you? It's a criticism levelled against him time and again, and he's done this at every club. KDB and Lukaku werent good enough for Chelsea, I'm sure they'd love them back though.
 
Yeah, whose game isnt developing, because of the point I made, that Jose doesnt know how to handle young players. Rashford will not develop into a top CF under Jose. Shaw is another one. You're seriously not contending this point, are you? It's a criticism levelled against him time and again, and he's done this at every club. KDB and Lukaku werent good enough for Chelsea, I'm sure they'd love them back though.

He seems to be handling Bailly just fine, he is only 22?
 
He wasn't married.
Doesn't matter as the drama staged by his ex damaged him in front of everybody, kinda like in broken marriages situation. He has tools to be best attacking winger in the league and perhaps he may be utilised in more difficult matches to fullest extent this season.

Doubtful Rashford will have so much pressure on him every match. He'll be rested too.
 
He's been our most threatening attacker when given the opportunity over the past month
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Against Championship sides

Wigan FA Cup
Liverpool
Reading FA Cup
Hull (Subbed on in the 59th minute)

His 1 goal and 2 assists came in the FA Cup against Championship sides. Against Liverpool he did feck all..
 
Against Championship sides

Wigan FA Cup
Liverpool
Reading FA Cup
Hull (Subbed on in the 59th minute)

His 1 goal and 2 assists came in the FA Cup against Championship sides. Against Liverpool he did feck all..

Against Liverpool he was our most dangerous player.
 
He seems to be handling Bailly just fine, he is only 22?
So in other words, he can only improve players he himself buys? He cant improve players that were already in the team when he came in because they werent 'his choice'? Conte's done it with his whole team, and Pep's doing it with average players like Sterling.
 
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