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So that's one of the things that strikes me as most odd. Gomes, unlike Laird or Williams, is an official first team squad member. Between getting his debut under Jose and then having Ole group him into the first team going into the season, recognizing the technical and talent doesn't seem to be the problem.

The big one seems to yet again be that managers, regardless of whether it is United bleeding Ole, toxic avenger Jose or Dutch madman LVG all love to play Lingard. The guy who has contributed absolute nothins on so many occasions in one of the areas most needing improvement for us. Not only that, we decided against Eriksen and Dybala and Bruno, not to play Gomes but rather to keep Jesse in.

It's jarring for Me. Can only imagine what goes through Angels head seeing it

The reason Lingard gets picked so frequently by all three managers is because they all have to keep a home grown player in the squad to keep this record going. We had a big shortage in quality home grown players recently and Lingard has benefited massively.
Hopefully the emergence of so many exciting young players this season should be the beginning of the end for him and this ridiculous post code lottery.
 
The reason Lingard gets picked so frequently by all three managers is because they all have to keep a home grown player in the squad to keep this record going. We had a big shortage in quality home grown players recently and Lingard has benefited massively.
Hopefully the emergence of so many exciting young players this season should be the beginning of the end for him and this ridiculous post code lottery.
Yep. That’s definitely why he gets picked ahead of Gomes. Because picking Gomes would obliterate that record. It’s just a shame Rashford and Pogba didn’t come through our academy or we could’ve just played them instead all this time.
 
Yeah, usually they are also quicker off the mark (in general) and have quick feet which should help them when playing as 10.
Agree, hope we get him on board as I he looks like a player who will come good when he fills out his frame.
 
The reason Lingard gets picked so frequently by all three managers is because they all have to keep a home grown player in the squad to keep this record going. We had a big shortage in quality home grown players recently and Lingard has benefited massively.
Hopefully the emergence of so many exciting young players this season should be the beginning of the end for him and this ridiculous post code lottery.
Has there ever been a game where Lingard is the only academy representative in the squad? I'm 99% certain there hasn't been.
 
Yeah definitely.

Coaching staff may have wanted him to commit before playing him while he and his agent want it the other way around.

Maybe Ole doesn’t think he’s quite ready unlike Greenwood and Williams.

I think he has a lot of talent that much is not in doubt but I’m not sure he’s a sure thing for stardom or a top club in Europe. There are obvious examples of smaller players making it but they have needed to be extraordinary in other parts of their game which I’m not sure Angel is (yet).
Ive mentioned it before but I don't even really think his size is an issue. It's more his stamina levels.

He doesn't seem able to keep up with the fast pace of the mens game, he gets puffed out quite quickly and unless we're on the front foot he's just not physically capable of effecting the game.

Even for the reserves he's wishy washy, moments of genius but then goes missing for 10-20 minutes.

I think eventually he'll turn out to be a great player when he's older., probably peak in his late 20's early 30's.
 
Has there ever been a game where Lingard is the only academy representative in the squad? I'm 99% certain there hasn't been.

No it hasn't. This team is stocked with academy graduates, as is tradition.
 
Yep. That’s definitely why he gets picked ahead of Gomes. Because picking Gomes would obliterate that record. It’s just a shame Rashford and Pogba didn’t come through our academy or we could’ve just played them instead all this time.

I was pointing out a reason why Lingard had been picked frequently by the last three managers, we are not just talking about this season here.

Also if we want to keep this record going we have to be prepared for injuries and poor form so need a few extra home grown players. I'm suggesting Lingard had benefited from this situation. Are you just being argumentative? What's your point?
 
I was pointing out a reason why Lingard had been picked frequently by the last three managers, we are not just talking about this season here.

Also if we want to keep this record going we have to be prepared for injuries and poor form so need a few extra home grown players. I'm suggesting Lingard had benefited from this situation. Are you just being argumentative? What's your point?
My point is that what you said was stupid. I don’t expect you to understand that however.
 
I don't get the argument that he's been average when he has played. Greenwood was average when he first started this season. Garner hasn't really been anything special. Chong has been the worst of the bunch and he's still played more games than Gomes

Moreover Gomes has rarely played in his actual position and has been shoehorned on the left.

Ole has proven that he likes to give youth a chance and I doubt he would have dropped Gomes because of some poor performances that he knows every young player has when they are just starting in the 1st team.

I think Ole not playing Gomes is down to him not wanting to sign a new contract even before the start of this season.
 
My pay TV provider here in Australia sadly no longer provides Man Utd TV so I no longer have the opportunity to watch the academy sides in action.

I watched quite a bit of Angel Gomes coming through and while his lack of size was always a concern he looked to have a great technique and felt he was a kid who had the natural ability to make it all the way.

It is a shame he has had limited opportunities in the first team this season and sadly when he has he probably hasn’t performed as he would have hoped.

I hope he get’s an opportunity against Colchester tonight, however unlikely that is as he doesn’t seem to be in OGS plans at present.
 
The reason Lingard gets picked so frequently by all three managers is because they all have to keep a home grown player in the squad to keep this record going. We had a big shortage in quality home grown players recently and Lingard has benefited massively.
Hopefully the emergence of so many exciting young players this season should be the beginning of the end for him and this ridiculous post code lottery.
I was pointing out a reason why Lingard had been picked frequently by the last three managers, we are not just talking about this season here.

Also if we want to keep this record going we have to be prepared for injuries and poor form so need a few extra home grown players. I'm suggesting Lingard had benefited from this situation. Are you just being argumentative? What's your point?

I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not, it looks like you are but I struggle to believe that anyone would think this was in any way a factor in United managers playing Lingard.
 
The writing was on the wall for quite some time now. I dared to dream he would make it here. Makes me sad knowing we lose such a talent, but then again, i am not that surprised, him running down the contract and us not playing him was obvious for months. I had a feeling in pre season that he should have played much more, so i knew Ole/the coaching staff either didnt rate him that much or he wanted to introduce him slowly. Wrong on both accounts, he needed more game time
 
Unless he is injured (again), this should be it for him here. Unfortunate given his talent but if a coaching staff which is giving chances to arguably lesser talented academy players than him, is avoiding playing him, surely must have some reasons behind it.
 
If Gomes had taken his chances the way Williams did this wouldn't be an issue .
 
Didn't even make the squad against Colchester...seems he doesn't have much of a future with us which is a shame.

Was looking forward to seeing him get regular chances for a change this season but that hasn't come to fruition for whatever reason
 
I trust the Club / Ole / Butt on this one. This whole season has been about giving academy players a shot at the first team and seeing who's good enough to take it. We've had Williams, Garner, Gomes, Chong, Greenwood, Tuanzebe playing cup games and knocking on the first team door. Some of them are not good enough (Chong) yet (Garner). Gomes is probably good enough but there's probably other issues there.

I think for a player that's spent so much time developing at a club, having a little bit of patience / loyalty and not jumping ship at the first sign that he's vaguely good enough is a good thing to have. We could've probably sent him out on a loan if he wants to play first team football consistently.

Oh well.
 
I get the feeling that there's a lot more to this and it's not a case of him not having the talent or potential (clearly does imo). I think there's a chance he would rather leave and go abroad for football, la Liga or something, where his size will have less of a negative impact. Can develop as a player elsewhere and then later on make a return to United if possible? Just hope in that scenario he is willing. A shame, but he is really small as of now and definitely needs first team football somewhere other than the premier league to develop normally and reach his potential.
 
Gomes:

”It’s another tournament and a way to get the season started and another trophy as well which we always look to win and we’re always competitive and always look to playing in it. It’s going to be a great occasion for the lads.”

"It's a big squad and a long season and it's just making sure you're ready and right for when the opportunities come.”

"It's (the game) another opportunity and any opportunity you get you look to take. It will be a great occasion at home and I'm just looking forward to it now."


"Every game is one to impress and impose your style and it's a big game for both teams. We won't be taking it lightly, there's a trophy at the end of it and we're playing at home and it's always a great occasion.”

"Rochdale came at us so you never know what to expect in the cup games, you can never underestimate the opposition and we'll have a plan but if we need to adapt we can."
 
Nope, that was what he said on MUTV, it was probably recorded earlier this week or something.

I thought that to be honest. Seems a mental situation in truth. Always thought he looked a really good prospect, but if he's not getting chances I would think there are deeper issues. Ole has given everyone chances, especially the young lads so if he is not getting picked I would imagine there are problems we don't yet know about there.
 
You people really need to grip . If he isn’t playing then it's because he isn't ready to play in the first team simple as that .

Ole isn't trolling you nor do any of you know better than those watching him every day of the week
 
Although he hasn't been as good in the first team this season as, say, Williams, Levitt & Laird (and of course Greenwood), I'm sure he'd be involved in this one if it wasn't for his contract situation. He probably isn't injured based on those comments, and he wasn't in the U23 squad either on Monday. Ole's playing hard ball and rightly so. It unfortunately does look inevitable that he'll leave the club next summer.
 
I would back Ole on this one. Maybe Gomes has rubbed Ole in a wrong way and playing hard ball over the contract. I think sets a good precedent for future that you cannot be bigger than the club.
 
He's gone at the end of the season, why should we aid his development? Makes no sense. I agree with Ole here.

He'll end up at Watford or something, this won't be a Pogba/Sancho situation. Hopefully he takes Chong with him, shite.
 
In 5 years time giving Mata a 3 year contract at the expense of Gomes will go down as one of our worst decisions post Fergie I think
 
In 5 years time giving Mata a 3 year contract at the expense of Gomes will go down as one of our worst decisions post Fergie I think

Absolutely nothing has gone at the expense of Gomes though. Every other teenager we can dig have have gotten chances to prove themselves.
 
Even if Gomes goes, I don't think that is going to hit us like Pogba did. He might turn out to a phenomenal talent but I haven't seen those flashes of brilliance from him whenever he played.
I guess only time will tell.
In this age of football, you have to take your chances, no matter when you get it, Just like Greenwood and Williams did.
 
Although he hasn't been as good in the first team this season as, say, Williams, Levitt & Laird (and of course Greenwood), I'm sure he'd be involved in this one if it wasn't for his contract situation. He probably isn't injured based on those comments, and he wasn't in the U23 squad either on Monday. Ole's playing hard ball and rightly so. It unfortunately does look inevitable that he'll leave the club next summer.

This is what I think too. And if I were the club, I'd do exactly the same.
 
In 5 years time giving Mata a 3 year contract at the expense of Gomes will go down as one of our worst decisions post Fergie I think

He's not playing because he hasn't committed to the club so Ole isn't gonna waste development minutes on someone who doesn't want to be here... Nothing to do with Mata
 
In 5 years time giving Mata a 3 year contract at the expense of Gomes will go down as one of our worst decisions post Fergie I think

Seriously? Look at the minutes academy players have got this season and not just minutes some have become actual first team regulars. If Gomes ain't making it under these circumstances then it's all on him, Ole can certainly do nothing else
 
He's not playing because he hasn't committed to the club so Ole isn't gonna waste development minutes on someone who doesn't want to be here... Nothing to do with Mata
I'd argue the reaosn he hasn't committed is because he see's below par players like Mata playing over him in his position even in dead rubber games so yes it has something to do with Mata
 
Didn't even make the squad against Colchester...seems he doesn't have much of a future with us which is a shame.

Was looking forward to seeing him get regular chances for a change this season but that hasn't come to fruition for whatever reason
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He's not playing because he hasn't committed to the club so Ole isn't gonna waste development minutes on someone who doesn't want to be here... Nothing to do with Mata

Well, its not excatly good either using players that are not good enough games after games. Mata, Lingard, Andreas
 
I'd argue the reaosn he hasn't committed is because he see's below par players like Mata playing over him in his position even in dead rubber games so yes it has something to do with Mata

Only a child would have such a mindset

At this point Gomes can only dream of having the career Mata has
 
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