Well if you've seen a lot of Nani this year you'll be aware that he's had quite a lot of opportunities and not delivered at all. The brave face is about knowing that di Maria going to be sold if a decent offer comes in.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I've always wondered how we (according to the papers) ended up paying 17 mil for a player whose release clause in his contract was pegged at 14 mil. Is that logical or possible?
Anyway, if we can't get a good price for him now, we should keep him till after the world cup, where prices get a bit silly and buyers a bit giddy. Nani seems to have lost Fergie's backing, and that's not good. I'll be surprised if he's here much longer, unless he somehow hits a rich vein of form really soon.
Anyway, if we can't get a good price for him now, we should keep him till after the world cup, where prices get a bit silly and buyers a bit giddy. Nani seems to have lost Fergie's backing, and that's not good. I'll be surprised if he's here much longer, unless he somehow hits a rich vein of form really soon.
Playing in a team which has Giggs and Ronaldo doesn't mean Nani gets their abilities. I wonder how he is going to become that given that he has neither Giggs brain and adaptability nor Ronaldo's outrageous talent?
Do you see Nani winning EPL Player of the season in 2011-12?
When a manager who kept faith in a player like Fletcher, when so many were cursing him, loses faith in a player, then I think it means something. Nani has lost the hunger/passion.
Hasen't Maradona said that Messi is left effective for Argentina than for Barcelona?
I think that we are not letting Nani go because he lacks talent.
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I mean you saw all the delirium about Ribery a year ago. He had done nothing more than Nani has so far by 23.
Ribery has never won the Premiership player of the season so what are you getting at here?
I mean you saw all the delirium about Ribery a year ago. He had done nothing more than Nani has so far by 23.
Ribery has never won the Premiership player of the season so what are you getting at here?
Nani plays once a month?
Fletcher has always looked quality in central midfield. Anyone worth a damn would have seen the huge difference in his performances in central midfield when compared to right midfield. I know I did and he became one of my favourite players to watch shortly after. Yes, there were lots of people who werent keen on Fletcher. Yes there are lots of people who arent keen on Nani. But there were lots of people who wanted us to sign Hargreaves and almost everyone wanted us to sign Berbatov. The majority of people can be right, or they can be wrong.
Because Messi is often deployed as a striker for Argentina. Angel Di Maria plays left wing whether for Benfica or for his national side.
Ribéry was the 2007-08 German Footballer of the Year at age of 25, Nani is 23 now, get it?
Yes. Nani needs to go spend 2 years in Germany?
I think my point was about SAF's faith in a player (his hunger) and not the faith of the fans.
He was striker against us in the final, didn't look so bad now did he?
If Ribery ever plays in the Premiership and does great then the comparison is worthy. I'd imagine Nani would play regularly for a club in Germany and probably do quite well. Ribery blows hot-and-cold as well and is nowhere near the estimated value Bayern have placed on him.
Agreed, EPL >> Bundesliga, but someone who has been best player there would probably be one of the top 5-6 players here (ignoring things like adaptability etc. . in a perfect world)
I don't see Nani as one of the top 5-6 players here, in 2 seasons from now, given his current rate of progress.
Nani heads for exit from Old Trafford - Premier League, Football - The Independent
This story is doing the rounds again under the latest Nani exit rumour.
This article reckons Di Maria has an exit clause of £12.3m which only comes into play next summer so cannot be exercised now.
How good is this kid because in the current market £12.3m would be good value for anyone with good potential on the left side.
We desparately need a new winger as well.
This story is doing the rounds again under the latest Nani exit rumour.
This article reckons Di Maria has an exit clause of £12.3m which only comes into play next summer so cannot be exercised now.
How good is this kid because in the current market £12.3m would be good value for anyone with good potential on the left side.
We desparately need a new winger as well.
Has it yet been noted by anyone here that Di Maria when he first signed for Benfica in a press conference declared that he wanted to join Chelsea?
I thought we were signing Ben Arfa?
I did not know that but still I would not read too much into it.
There is quote on here from Obertan saying he would much prefer to play for Real or Barca than United or another English team from about two years ago when his reputation was abit higher than this summer.
Well he also signed for Arsenal but they pulled out on the deal. So i don't think it will bother him much which top English side he signs for...
If you thought Nani was frustrating, wait till you see this lad for 90 minutes over the course of a few months...
Look up the word 'enfant terrible' and you'll have a picture of Hatem ben Arfa next to it. Not saying the lad can't / won't change if he has a manager like Sir Alex to guide him, but if we are honestly talking about an upgrade to Nani then there is no way we should be looking at ben Arfa as that man (child).
So is Di Maria... He's also in the same bracket. However Fergie wants a left winger and there aren't many top ones around.
Personally don't think Di Maria is someone we should be after either.
Especially at the prices that are being quoted for him. If we can sell Nani for 10 million, and then buy Di Maria for 12, that might not be the end of the world. But paying the 25-30 million being quoted for him is lunacy. He's simply not even close to that level a player.
Hell, I'd even go as far as to suggest that whatever we get for Nani should be exactly how much we spend on either ben Arfa or Di Maria because they are similar level players (and if anything Nani is worth more because he's won more, he's played with better players and at present Nani is further ahead in his progress as a football player then the other two).
Especially at the prices that are being quoted for him. If we can sell Nani for 10 million, and then buy Di Maria for 12, that might not be the end of the world. But paying the 25-30 million being quoted for him is lunacy. He's simply not even close to that level a player.
Hell, I'd even go as far as to suggest that whatever we get for Nani should be exactly how much we spend on either ben Arfa or Di Maria because they are similar level players (and if anything Nani is worth more because he's won more, he's played with better players and at present Nani is further ahead in his progress as a football player then the other two).
I don't see how could signing this guy work ? How many argentinians have truly been a success at United for a long period of time, plus he'll wanna go to sunny Spain at one point and I just can't see what else he'd bring that we don't have
Very overrated player
Very overrated player
I was thinking more or long the lines that in his first press conference for Benfica, he comes out and declares his desire to join another club. A bit of an idiot if you ask me.
If we dont sign him im giving up on saf, hes utterly useless in the trnsfr mrkt ltly.
Right, the fact SAF doesn't sign every so called 'new talent' or 'hottest prospect' makes him a failure in the transfer market.
Right, the fact SAF doesn't sign every so called 'new talent' or 'hottest prospect' makes him a failure in the transfer market.
I think you missed the sarcasm. Well, at least I'm hoping he was being facetious.
It's less fun when people spot that it wasnt serious within 3 posts.
Right, the fact SAF doesn't sign every so called 'new talent' or 'hottest prospect' makes him a failure in the transfer market.
:P
The quoted fee was around 9m + Nani.. If his release cluase is 12.3m then why wouldn't they accept that offer. It's just the press again as usual i doubt we are even in for him, he isn't something special anyway.
The release fee is 'apparently' 12.3 in the summer, right now it is 30million. Apparently.
Why the confusion then ?Like Heinze and Tevez did??
i think he'd be quality in the prem. If Lennon can "terrorize" defences then i'm sure Di Maria can rip them.
I think Lennon is massively underrated by some on here...dont know why ive always rated him as a class wide man and this season hes clearly been the most consistently devastating winger in the league....he destroys full backs with hes sheer speed alone and his final ball has vastly improved this season which was always the main criticism of him.....now hes got that part right hes one of the best wingers in europe in my opinion.
Id have him at United in a shot!
Id have him at United in a shot!
and where would we play him with Valencia already in the team as well?
Sadly enough i think Lennon is at his peak right now and or maybe better the next season , i don't think he'll be better after that or even the same. His speed is his main attribute and to be fair, he doesn't have a big bag of tricks nor the quality of a giggs to make a big impact after his speed deserts him. So Lennon at United might not have the desired effect you're looking for Allfo.
He's only 22, his speed isn't going anywhere for a long time. Look at Craig Bellamy, 30 years old with a long history of injuries yet he's still very quick.Not saying we should sign him just saying i think hes a top player and has been as good as any winger in the league this season and that type of player would always be welcome at this club.
I think Lennon has developed into a quality winger, but he's not at all what we need. Valencia is developing into a fine winger himself, and both him and Lennon are predominantly right-sided so it wouldn't be much use having two quality right wingers with no one on the left. Di Maria is naturally left-sided and has been in excellent form in 2009; he'd be a good signing if we could get him for the right price.