From what i have seen both like to attack and defend in equal measure
Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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I can imagine Di Maria easier than in form Nani.His a player we could really use. We lack pace and while he adds that his probably on par with Robben/Messi when dribbling at pace especially in tight spaces his a goal threat and has a good assist record.
Imagine an in form Nani and Di Maria on the wings
But I remember the tales about this Nani the old ones used to tell us before bed. We would gather around the fire, and they would tell about this portuguese winger, not Ronaldo, that had tricks in his legs, crosses that would meet the striker, and even scored quite beautiful goals. What a sight it was, they used to say. He was amazing, until the day he vanished, never to be seen in this lands again.
Herrera last season has played mainly as an attacking midfielder and Vidal hasn't played as a DM in a long while either neither for Juventus nor for Chile. Both can defend there is no doubt about that but imo it would be a waste of their offensive talents if we did restrict one to mainly defensive duties.
They are great box to box midfielder who can defend and attack but I don't think a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-2-3-1 actually works that well with two box to box midfielders. Take City for example where Yaya was probably the best box to box midfielder I have seen in a while last season. The reason why he was so great though was because he had the defensive minded Fernandinho as a partner which allowed Yaya to venture forward as much as he wanted.
Now if you have two Box to Box midfielders a lot more communication and mutual understanding between the two midfielders is needed to not expose the defense when both are bombing forward. Knowing van Gaal a bit he likes to have players with clearly defined objectives in the game and there is almost always at least one midfielder who defends the space in front of the back four or five. Van Bommel at Bayern or De Jong for the Dutch are prime examples of this and neither Herrera or Vidal are these types of defensive specialists.
I'm not even against buying Vidal if we could get him I just would feel more comfortable if we added a defensive specialist like Martinez and Carvalho who both are excellent footballers as well.
It would also offer the opportunity to opt for a more defensive 4-3-3 version with Herrera and Vidal in front of a defensive specialist.
I'd like Di Maria. He's pretty good but 60m boy that seems steep...
If Sanchez is available for around half that it's no brainer for me. Although depends who out of both wants to come to United(if any).
Vidal is the closes to box to box as you can get.
I think midfield three of Herrera, Vidal and Mata in more advanced position will be great.
If Sanchez is available for around half that it's no brainer for me. Although depends who out of both wants to come to United(if any).
Vidal is the closes to box to box as you can get.
I think midfield three of Herrera, Vidal and Mata in more advanced position will be great.
It's Euros though?
I hope you are right. If the reason Sanchez isn't coming to United is because we aren't interested and if the reason we aren't interested is because we are close to signing Di Maria I'll be very happy with that (if we pull it off ofcourse).
Why not ?
It is alot of money but I think the club can afford it and we'd be getting something for it:
-----------DDG-----------
Rafael--Jones--Evans---Shaw
-----Herrera---Vidal--------
Januzaj----Mata-----Di Maria
------------RVP------------
Now that is a top side
Apart from the defence, you probably mean.
Di Maria Hummels and one of Vidal / kehdira / Bender / Pogba / Carvalho / Gustavo / Strootman would make me a really really happy man.
Would you expect Rooney to be sold??
300k p/w sitting on the bench... If were not going to play him, i would hope for him to be sold
(This team looks better without him, Rooney would upset the balance)
They score 2 goals we score 8
Sounds like Pro Evolution Soccer 6.
Too good to be true. He'd be a fantastic signing.
It was only last season Vidal was stated as thinking he's the best DM in the world and Herrera has played in deeper midfield roles almost his entire career, he was played as an attacking CM because the current Bilbao side has more depth at CM than any other position in their squad and he's seen as the best player of all those available for that position even though it's not his preferred role.
Man City have Fernandinho doing most of the defensive duties when his best role is going forward and playing box to box and it's hardly hurt them.
If Van Gaal really wants a wide man why didn't he go for Sanchez who is considerably cheaper and, imo, overall better? I also like Sanchez's attitude far more than Di Maria, who always gave me the impression of shying away when the going gets tough. We already have enough characters like that in the squad.
Perhaps he wants Reus who is considerably more consistent than both?
Di Maria is arguably the same quality. Also I disagree with your last bit he was was influential in the latter stages of the season not to mention his MOTM performance against Atletico.
Well reports were that Sanchez was adamant that he plays CL football next season. Not sure if that had anything to do with it.
Can't see why most elite clubs wouldn't be in for a player of his quality.
That's pretty much the exact opposite of how I'd describe Di Maria this year.
On the right wing di maria was almost always ineffective in big games. But on the left wing (like vs barca in the copa del ray final in 2011) and in midfield this season he performed in almost all the big matches. He got man of the match in the champions league final. He seems to be on his way to becoming a big game player.
Vidal and Di Maria? 
What are some of you lot smoking?
We won't get close to either.
What are some of you lot smoking?We won't get close to either.
Sounds like we are playing Arsenal every week.
A muppets dream!
The most important question is, if the Noodle looses even more weight by eating English food instead of Spanish. I don't even want to know how he will look by then.
How will the Madrid fans take it if he is sold?.
Wow he's produced 36 goals and 87 assists for Madrid in 4 seasons.
That's a ridiculous number and probably more than all our wingers/ midfielders combined. Apparently Ozil is the European leader with 95 assists at Madrid and Arsenal but Di Maria runs him pretty close. Never realized it was that high..
That's a ridiculous number and probably more than all our wingers/ midfielders combined. Apparently Ozil is the European leader with 95 assists at Madrid and Arsenal but Di Maria runs him pretty close. Never realized it was that high..
I cant speak for every Madrid fan but probably similar to ozil. They wont be happy about it. Personally I think this is a bigger loss than ozil if it happens. Ozil is a very talented player but his way of playing caused problems for the team, especially in the big matches. Di maria showed character and that he was able to adapt to whatever the coach asked of him. It is not often you get a player like that. I am hoping that ancelotti will be strong like mourinho was and demand control in transfers but it doesn't seem like he is so far. Even if fans are against the club selling di maria and signing rodriguez, perez wont mind. He will point to the selling of ozil and signing of bale last year and how it turned out to be a success. He probably feels more justified in making his big signings now.
Vidal and Di Maria?
We won't get close to either.
I am willing to bet we will get one of them.
They initially kicked up a fuss about Ozil last year but it really doesnt matter with them...new year, new toy.... as soon as J-Rodriguez walks in there Di Maria will be all forgotten.
That depends if he performs well or not. It would make no sense for Madrid fans to be chanting ozil in September or October. You have to move on. If ozil came back to play Madrid I am sure he would get a good reaction. When ozil left he wrote one of those good-bye messages on his facebook and twitter that players do these days. Personally I don't care for such stuff, but it does show that he felt valued by Madrid fans. Otherwise he wouldn't have bothered.
Is he..?
If we don't get a few big signings this year, we can pretty much rule out every getting any considering how desperatelying lacking our squad is, the CL miss and the noise coming out of OT that we've got money to burn.
He's surely only sold if they get boy wonder Rodriguez. Not really much to complain about there.
In previous years I would be inclined to agree with you, but this summer is different.
The Glazers know they have to spend and Woodie wants to spend; we have been spending release clause-like money on our last 3 signings so it appears that our days for penny pinching when it comes to transfers are over.
I believe that we will get either Di Maria or Vidal.... or both.
Would you be willing to bet that if we get either (or both) you would have to change your user name to something silly for this season?
I would of course, change mines if we do not nab a marquee signing.
I'd participate in a bet of that nature
In previous years I would be inclined to agree with you, but this summer is different.
The Glazers know they have to spend and Woodie wants to spend; we have been spending release clause-like money on our last 3 signings so it appears that our days for penny pinching when it comes to transfers are over.
I believe that we will get either Di Maria or Vidal.... or both.
Would you be willing to bet that if we get either (or both) you would have to change your user name to something silly for this season?
I would of course, change mines if we do not nab a marquee signing.
I'd participate in a bet of that nature
Yeah I'm up for that
Although, It's a bet I'd be hoping to lose
In previous years I would be inclined to agree with you, but this summer is different.
The Glazers know they have to spend and Woodie wants to spend; we have been spending release clause-like money on our last 3 signings so it appears that our days for penny pinching when it comes to transfers are over.
I believe that we will get either Di Maria or Vidal.... or both.
Would you be willing to bet that if we get either (or both) you would have to change your user name to something silly for this season?
I would of course, change mines if we do not nab a marquee signing.
I'd participate in a bet of that nature
Yeah I'm up for that
Although, It's a bet I'd be hoping to lose
Fabulous my good man, a bet it is!
That AS are the biggest bullshitters going. This won't happen.
People again getting unrealistic thinking we're going to spunk £90m on some of the best players in the world like Di Maria and Vidal.
Remember we aren't in the Champions league. Our business so far has been really good and expect similar transfers.
Wouldn't be surprised if we snapped up William Carvalho and Depay, players like that. Top upcoming European talent rather than top established European talent.
People again getting unrealistic thinking we're going to spunk £90m on some of the best players in the world like Di Maria and Vidal.
Remember we aren't in the Champions league. Our business so far has been really good and expect similar transfers.
Wouldn't be surprised if we snapped up William Carvalho and Depay, players like that. Top upcoming European talent rather than top established European talent.
And what's the basis of you hypothesis ?
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