[luke511]

I'd go as far to say Pereira has around about the same amount of potential as Rashford. He has great technique with the ball at his feet, and he never seems to be at too much risk of getting tackled which says an awful lot about his positional awareness. That coupled with defensive grit makes a top talent in my eyes.

 

[SoCross]

Plays with a lot of maturity. I get a tiny bit of Possebon vibes too but repeating what I said a few pages back, this kid can go all the way and cement a place in our midfield this season.

 

[The No.10!]

How do people think Mourinho rates him, though? I have no idea in this regard, but he must've been impressed by what he did at Granada last season, and is carrying that form into pre season as well!

Also, when's his contract due? I have a feeling Barca will be in for him in the future.

 

[barmyarmy]

How do people think Mourinho rates him, though? I have no idea in this regard, but he must've been impressed by what he did at Granada last season, and is carrying that form into pre season as well!

Also, when's his contract due? I have a feeling Barca will be in for him in the future.

His contract is due to expire at end of next season with another year of extension available. If he starts the season well then its time we should give him new contract even if he does want to leave at the end of next season for some reason then atleast we should be getting cash on him. I have really high hopes for this guy, I always believed since his youth team days he can be part of our first team

 

[jesperjaap]

His contract is due to expire at end of next season with another year of extension available. If he starts the season well then its time we should give him new contract even if he does want to leave at the end of next season for some reason then atleast we should be getting cash on him. I have really high hopes for this guy, I always believed since his youth team days he can be part of our first team

I hope he does well this season as he has a lot of talent and unless we sign a couple of central midfielders....should get lots of opportunities this season. At the same time what if he doesnt start well, he has been here a few years now, he is 21 and hasnt done anything for us YET. If he doesnt perform, he isnt going to have much value at all. When you look at it like that, this is probably a make or break season for him, especially with his current contract situation.

 

[jesperjaap]

With the ball at his feet, he has no problem getting gametime IMO. However, without the ball, he lacks defensive reading for DM, lack the combat skill as ball winner, or the engine for a pressing role. He's not out out wide playmaker, no 10 or winger neither. The competition for this all rounded role aka no 8 is fierce as he's to come up against Pogba, while Herrera & Fellaini are specialist for certain tactical works Mourinho prefers to employ than possession base style Pereira would prefer.

I rate his natural game, but I think he needs to fill out his game more to be able to gain more gametime. As of now, IMO he would be limited gametime as I just explained my take above.

Good points. I think he will get opportunities with what we currently have, plenty of them in fact. The two things that worry me are:

1) Your limited game time happens due to Fellaini starting. Fellaini is almost the opposite of how you explain Perriera, he has no problems WITHOUT the ball at his feet!
2) Pogba AND Perreira in the same side is mouth watering when in possession but both players in midfield without the ball positionally, especially on the break is a bit concerning. Hopefully both can improve on that.

 

[pacifictheme]

I'd go as far to say Pereira has around about the same amount of potential as Rashford. He has great technique with the ball at his feet, and he never seems to be at too much risk of getting tackled which says an awful lot about his positional awareness. That coupled with defensive grit makes a top talent in my eyes.

I've not seen preseason and didn't watch him last year.

Does anyone else share this opinion? If so maybe we won't look for another midfielder and the plan will be to use him regularly this year. Would be great if true.

 

[Litch]

I don't get it. What's the hype about this player based on? Was he that great in Spain that we have loads of clubs winning to pay us 30m for him? He is a nice player with technical ability but look at the 17 for city yesterday and how he influenced the game.

 

[limerickcitykid]

I've not seen preseason and didn't watch him last year.

Does anyone else share this opinion? If so maybe we won't look for another midfielder and the plan will be to use him regularly this year. Would be great if true.

Id agree with him. We still need a defensive midfielder though as Andreas isn't one and all we really have is Carrick.

 

[Android1974]

I don't get it. What's the hype about this player based on? Was he that great in Spain that we have loads of clubs winning to pay us 30m for him? He is a nice player with technical ability but look at the 17 for city yesterday and how he influenced the game.

Based on seeing him being one of the best in the team for a combined 90' playing at #6.

 

[limerickcitykid]

I don't get it. What's the hype about this player based on? Was he that great in Spain that we have loads of clubs winning to pay us 30m for him? He is a nice player with technical ability but look at the 17 for city yesterday and how he influenced the game.

What is your point? What does Foden being an exceptional talent have to do with Andreas also being very talented?

 

[Litch]

What is your point? What does Foden being an exceptional talent have to do with Andreas also being very talented?

My point is I saw two very different applications of their talent. I leave others to make their own opinion but one won't be going out on loan where the other won't be any closer to the first team than 12months ago. Sorry if that upsets people put I've seen nothing to tell me different and our push to sign another midfield player reinforces it.

 

[Litch]

Based on seeing him being one of the best in the team for a combined 90' playing at #6.

Really? In what way? Like I said I really don't get the hype and those who compare his potential to Rashford is the most ridiculous thing I've read as it's not based on anything. Can't be based on PL experience or in any cup competition. Yep did well on loan but come on, comparisons to Rashfords potential.

 

[bond19821982]

We should try him on the left as an alternative option to Perisic

 

[Nick7]

We should try him on the left as an alternative option to Perisic

He's the complete opposite of Perisic as a player tbh. I think playing him wide removes a lot of his best qualities from the game.

 

[bond19821982]

He's the complete opposite of Perisic as a player tbh. I think playing him wide removes a lot of his best qualities from the game.

He has played there many times though. Of course he is different to Perisic But then we really don't have any back up options to Perisic

 

[VorZakone]

I think he shines most as an offensive CM in a 4-3-3 setup?

 

[luke511]

Really? In what way? Like I said I really don't get the hype and those who compare his potential to Rashford is the most ridiculous thing I've read as it's not based on anything. Can't be based on PL experience or in any cup competition. Yep did well on loan but come on, comparisons to Rashfords potential.

It's not based on anything? How about the last 3 pre-seasons and a full season as a starter in the world's best league? You value Rashford's potential higher because his contribution is a lot easier to monitor, forward bursts, dribbles and goals. For a young, deep lying midfielder you have to keep an eye on different qualities and Pereira possesses a lot of them in order to become a top midfielder.. It's funny how much you undervalue his time at Granada, shows you clueless you are on his progress.

 

[Nick7]

He has played there many times though. Of course he is different to Perisic But then we really don't have any back up options to Perisic

But he's better in the centre, is my point.

 

[Mcking]

I don't get it. What's the hype about this player based on? Was he that great in Spain that we have loads of clubs winning to pay us 30m for him? He is a nice player with technical ability but look at the 17 for city yesterday and how he influenced the game.

Just like clubs were winning to pay us for Rashford? He was great for a poor granada and the talent is definitely there. Put him in the Barca team, i'm convinced he won't look out of place; what he need is a good platform for him to perform. I hope he doesn't end up like De bruyne and Lukaku.

I think he shines most as an offensive CM in a 4-3-3 setup?

Yea i think so. Position-wise, he is like Pogba.

 

[Dobbs]

My point is I saw two very different applications of their talent. I leave others to make their own opinion but one won't be going out on loan where the other won't be any closer to the first team than 12months ago. Sorry if that upsets people put I've seen nothing to tell me different and our push to sign another midfield player reinforces it.

So if City sign a midfielder this summer it would reinforce some kind of negative re Foden? That's faulty logic.

People rate Pereira simply because he has plenty of talent coupled with a good attitude.

 

[Devil may care]

This lad is the Obi-Wan to Leia this season for me.

 

[Litch]

So if City sign a midfielder this summer it would reinforce some kind of negative re Foden? That's faulty logic.

People rate Pereira simply because he has plenty of talent coupled with a good attitude.

Really.....all must be subscribers of MUTV then cause that's basically the only place most would see him play. I'd question how many watched him play in Spain too. I could understand if like Rashford he's proved in on the biggest stage but let's be honest, there is absolutely nothing I've seen that would suggest otherwise. He might be a world beater but i don't see it. I hope I'm wrong....

 

[Dobbs]

Really.....all must be subscribers of MUTV then cause that's basically the only place most would see him play. I'd question how many watched him play in Spain too. I could understand if like Rashford he's proved in on the biggest stage but let's be honest, there is absolutely nothing I've seen that would suggest otherwise. He might be a world beater but i don't see it. I hope I'm wrong....

Well yeah, people have watched him grow through the United system. Proper talent is quite easy to spot. Then there's a full season in Spain. Just watch him against some of Europes best teams. He doesn't look out of place.

United apparently being after a holding midfielder says nothing about Pereira though. OK you've got doubts but that particular point you made doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Litch]

Well yeah, people have watched him grow through the United system. Proper talent is quite easy to spot. Then there's a full season in Spain. Just watch him against some of Europes best teams. He doesn't look out of place.

United apparently being after a holding midfielder says nothing about Pereira though. OK you've got doubts but that particular point you made doesn't make any sense to me.

I'll say it again, not saying he's not got talent but I see him in the same way as Adnan. I got a sense that it wasn't gonna happen for him here and I feel the same about Pereira. What I look at is what comes out of the club and whether signings hinder playing time. Might sound symplistic but in modern football, being sent out on loan generally isn't a good sign. Where is he going to get playing time? Pogba, Herrera, Felliani and Carrick all start before him. Not sure how you can say an holding midfielder doesn't affect him as it just pushes him further down the pecking order. Even worse if people thinks he should be playing further forward.

Look at the polar opposite way the club as managed Rashford. Ibra came and even before his injury, Rashford still got lots of football.

The lad has talent but not enough and I don't see any pathway to the starting 11 and every season it gets harder.

 

[Asger]

I'll say it again, not saying he's not got talent but I see him in the same way as Adnan. I got a sense that it wasn't gonna happen for him here and I feel the same about Pereira. What I look at is what comes out of the club and whether signings hinder playing time. Might sound symplistic but in modern football, being sent out on loan generally isn't a good sign. Where is he going to get playing time? Pogba, Herrera, Felliani and Carrick all start before him. Not sure how you can say an holding midfielder doesn't affect him as it just pushes him further down the pecking order. Even worse if people thinks he should be playing further forward.

Look at the polar opposite way the club as managed Rashford. Ibra came and even before his injury, Rashford still got lots of football.

The lad has talent but not enough and I don't see any pathway to the starting 11 and every season it gets harder.

What has Rashford prove so much more than Pereira? At least not much of a goalscorer so far.

 

[Mike09]

He has played there many times though. Of course he is different to Perisic But then we really don't have any back up options to Perisic

Then it'll be like in the past. Playing a non natural winger player as our left winger.

 

[ricky-romeo]

if we are going to have him in the team, it is as a CM and not a winger.

hope he will get more playing minutes this pre season. we might not be signing another midfielder so could be andreas gain here.

 

[edcunited1878]

I'll say it again, not saying he's not got talent but I see him in the same way as Adnan. I got a sense that it wasn't gonna happen for him here and I feel the same about Pereira. What I look at is what comes out of the club and whether signings hinder playing time. Might sound symplistic but in modern football, being sent out on loan generally isn't a good sign. Where is he going to get playing time? Pogba, Herrera, Felliani and Carrick all start before him. Not sure how you can say an holding midfielder doesn't affect him as it just pushes him further down the pecking order. Even worse if people thinks he should be playing further forward.

Look at the polar opposite way the club as managed Rashford. Ibra came and even before his injury, Rashford still got lots of football.

The lad has talent but not enough and I don't see any pathway to the starting 11 and every season it gets harder.

He doesn't have to be in the starting 11. United have a thin squad, especially in central midfield. Injuries always happen. He will get match time and if he's doing what Jose instructs him to do, just like Lingard did all last season, then he'll be in Jose's plans.

And his loan spell was successful compared to Adnan. Their attitudes are much different. He has a future at the club, but as always, if he believes he can break into a starting 11 somewhere else, then he can choose to do it.

 

[Dobbs]

I'll say it again, not saying he's not got talent but I see him in the same way as Adnan. I got a sense that it wasn't gonna happen for him here and I feel the same about Pereira. What I look at is what comes out of the club and whether signings hinder playing time. Might sound symplistic but in modern football, being sent out on loan generally isn't a good sign. Where is he going to get playing time? Pogba, Herrera, Felliani and Carrick all start before him. Not sure how you can say an holding midfielder doesn't affect him as it just pushes him further down the pecking order. Even worse if people thinks he should be playing further forward.

Look at the polar opposite way the club as managed Rashford. Ibra came and even before his injury, Rashford still got lots of football.

The lad has talent but not enough and I don't see any pathway to the starting 11 and every season it gets harder.

I get you have doubts, like any young player there's still every chance he won't make it here.

However your arguments are very jumbled. His career trajectory is the exact opposite of Adnans. A good loan followed by a return to the club. It couldn't have gone better really.

Game time will be difficult to get. The same would be true for any young player. It's true of Rashford. We're apparently also after Perisic, who plays in the position Rashford got most of his minutes last season. Plus we've just spent a fortune on a 24 year old who plays in his actual position. So following your logic that reinforces something detrimental about Rashford right?

 

[Litch]

What has Rashford prove so much more than Pereira? At least not much of a goalscorer so far.

This is a joke right?

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

What has Rashford prove so much more than Pereira? At least not much of a goalscorer so far.

Posts like this make me worried that Pereira is getting a bit overrated here already.

Pereira has so much to prove, as does Rashford but Rashford is a senior international, scored in the Manchester derby among other big games and is showing the work ethic and potential to be a very important player. As of yet, what has Pereira (who is older) accomplished for us in comparison?

 

[Pass and Move]

Look at the polar opposite way the club as managed Rashford. Ibra came and even before his injury, Rashford still got lots of football.

The lad has talent but not enough and I don't see any pathway to the starting 11 and every season it gets harder.

Rashford got playing time because in many ways his wide forward position is less critical and requires less playing experience than a CM position. That makes it harder to give young CM talents a starting position.

I see Pereira as a blend between Modric and Mata in playing style. He's a more dynamic version of Mata, and he got plenty of minutes last season. I think he may be Pereira's route into the first team.

 

[Litch]

He doesn't have to be in the starting 11. United have a thin squad, especially in central midfield. Injuries always happen. He will get match time and if he's doing what Jose instructs him to do, just like Lingard did all last season, then he'll be in Jose's plans.

And his loan spell was successful compared to Adnan. Their attitudes are much different. He has a future at the club, but as always, if he believes he can break into a starting 11 somewhere else, then he can choose to do it.

We will see but when I see the difficult pathway for other young players on the team, he's gonna have to do more than I've seen. Lingard has scored some massive goals and he still has his doubters and Rashford equally so. Jose likes to have some size in that midfield so he'll need to do something more than I've seen. Yep the loan spell was successful but not playing in CM and more on the left.

I know having a different opinion on here can be a little unpalatable for some but talent isn't enough and I want to see how he takes his opportunity in the same way the young city lad did.

 

[Litch]

Rashford got playing time because in many ways his wide forward position is less critical and requires less playing experience than a CM position. That makes it harder to give young CM talents a starting position.

I see Pereira as a blend between Modric and Mata in playing style. He's a more dynamic version of Mata, and he got plenty of minutes last season. I think he may be Pereira's route into the first team.

I hear you but based on what? He reminds me of so many young Utd players over the years, bags of technical ability but can't translate that into the English game. I agree loan spell was good but it's like saying he had a good loan spell at Sunderland, it's not the barometer. Let's not get caught up by the fact he's got ability and let's see his application of it at the highest level.....

 

[Pass and Move]

I hear you but based on what? He reminds me of so many young Utd players over the years, bags of technical ability but can't translate that into the English game. I agree loan spell was good but it's like saying he had a good loan spell at Sunderland, it's not the barometer. Let's not get caught up by the fact he's got ability and let's see his application of it at the highest level.....

It's based on seeing him play football. Just as you can see talented players standing out in weaker teams like Sigurdsson and Coutinho do, I've seen Pereira's ability and think he's got the talent to succeed.

I never got the hype regarding Adnan, he wasn't that quick, didn't take on and beat players either. If it wasn't for that one brace I don't think we'd have raved about him.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I hear you but based on what? He reminds me of so many young Utd players over the years, bags of technical ability but can't translate that into the English game. I agree loan spell was good but it's like saying he had a good loan spell at Sunderland, it's not the barometer. Let's not get caught up by the fact he's got ability and let's see his application of it at the highest level.....

This. So many get hyped up as well.

 

[Litch]

It's based on seeing him play football. Just as you can see talented players standing out in weaker teams like Sigurdsson and Coutinho do, I've seen Pereira's ability and think he's got the talent to succeed.

I never got the hype regarding Adnan, he wasn't that quick, didn't take on and beat players either. If it wasn't for that one brace I don't think we'd have raved about him.

Without repeating myself, talent in sport isn't enough. He can play otherwise he wouldn't be here but I don't understand the hype. I really don't understand the comparisons with proven players especially when he's played most of his career as a wide player. Not being funny and it might have been the case but if he was so good in Spain, why isnt there a queue of LaLiga clubs wanting to sign him?

I think we get intoxicated by lads who can trap a ball where in Spain, that's the given. A Utd lad passes to a player in the same shirt, and we make comparisons to Mata who's scores 10 goals a season. The irony is people still don't rate Mata on here. Also because he's got a foreign name we think different to a lad from Warrington who scored goals at Wembley.

 

[Lennon7]

Without repeating myself, talent in sport isn't enough. He can play otherwise he wouldn't be here but I don't understand the hype. I really don't understand the comparisons with proven players especially when he's played most of his career as a wide player. Not being funny and it might have been the case but if he was so good in Spain, why isnt there a queue of LaLiga clubs wanting to sign him?

I think we get intoxicated by lads who can trap a ball where in Spain, that's the given. A Utd lad passes to a player in the same shirt, and we make comparisons to Mata who's scores 10 goals a season. The irony is people still don't rate Mata on here. Also because he's got a foreign name we think different to a lad from Warrington who scored goals at Wembley.

Lingard is 3/4 years older than Pereira and only really broke into the team properly in the 2015/16 season. He's also clearly limited and doesn't have a very high ceiling. That's why a lot don't rate him that much, not because he's from Warrington. He's also a huge tit

Again, I haven't seen much of Pereira to comment but I know he's had heaps of praise from coaches for years now. Lingard not so much. I genuinely believe Lingard is still here because he's quite marketable, but the best we'd get out of him if we want to be ambitious is a bit part squad role.

 

[Litch]

Lingard is 3/4 years older than Pereira and only really broke into the team properly in the 2015/16 season. He's also clearly limited and doesn't have a very high ceiling. That's why a lot don't rate him that much, not because he's from Warrington. He's also a huge tit

Again, I haven't seen much of Pereira to comment but I know he's had heaps of praise from coaches for years now. Lingard not so much. I genuinely believe Lingard is still here because he's quite marketable, but the best we'd get out of him if we want to be ambitious is a bit part squad role.

Yep Lingard must cry in his cornflakes each morning about his limitations. Especially that miss-kick that amounted to winning the cup. He much kick himself everytime he thinks about his low ceiling each time progressive managers hand him a starting position and he runs out in front of 70,000 people.

I'm not anti Pereira just not caught up in the hype until he's done something a little more than I've seen todate.