Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances

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Call him a prick if you must, but the boy believes in himself so much that he's prepared to walk out on United to get real playing time. Given the reality of today's world, most of us would do the same thing.

With the players we already have and the rampant talk of us buying one or two midfielders this summer, does he have any realistic expectation of getting a chance with the first team next season? Nope.
 
Call him a prick if you must, but the boy believes in himself so much that he's prepared to walk out on United to get real playing time. Given the reality of today's world, most of us would do the same thing.

With the players we already have and the rampant talk of us buying one or two midfielders this summer, does he have any realistic expectation of getting a chance with the first team next season? Nope.

Sorry but, have you read what he posted?

If he wants to go then, good luck to him....The fact is, he's a nobody in the grand scale of things and look at what he wrote :lol:

Ronaldo or Messi wouldn't even write that. It's insane :lol:
 
Jaysus, bit strange to come out with a statement like that. He's made no impact on the first team and half our fans would have never heard of him. :lol:
 
It needs more David Brent:
"For my next project, alongside my entourage I will make a decision that matches my football philosophy and career objectives. And grab as much filthy lucre as possible."
 
Are these quotes genuine? Anyway, you would expect us to make at least a nice profit from his sale, in stead of leaving him go on a free. If those quotes are legitimate, then feck me... What an attitude to have at that age :lol: He still has it all to prove the little shit.
 
Are these quotes genuine? Anyway, you would expect us to make at least a nice profit from his sale, in stead of leaving him go on a free. If those quotes are legitimate, then feck me... What an attitude to have at that age :lol: He still has it all to prove the little shit.

Wouldn't be surprised if those quotes are made up.I don't think Pereira's English is even that good.Plus doesn't sound like him ("entourage"???).The pic is again,taken from his Instagram.

He might still leave us but the media is the one who's gaining from it.Too many bullshit stories.
 
Are these quotes genuine? Anyway, you would expect us to make at least a nice profit from his sale, in stead of leaving him go on a free. If those quotes are legitimate, then feck me... What an attitude to have at that age :lol: He still has it all to prove the little shit.
Don't think so. That picture is from an instagram post that just says something like good morning everyone (or something pointless like that), and then the quotes is from a dailymail article quoting tuttosport, and they are known to make shit up all the time.
 
didnt someone post the translated quote from the tuttosport article? i read it in the morning somewhere
 
I'd imagine entourage was a bad translation to be honest. Who says that?

Even still. What a tool! Anyone who wants to leave United to join a lower club in a lower league should be left go immediately.
Clubs like United need players of stronger character and attitude. Talent is only worth so much.

As to the youth system, how many world class players weren't good enough to play 1st team football at 18/19? I reckon very few.

Young players need to be brought into the club and told they will be developed until they are 19. At the time, if they are considered good enough, they will be given a run in the first team (that needs to then happen, unlike in Pogbas case). They should be told that it is their responsibility to impress during that run.

Those who are not deemed good enough, or fail to impress during their run in the first team should be told they are free to leave. There is no point in running a youth/reserve team full of 20 something year old journeymen just for the sake of it. I'd prefer to see talented young 16/17 year olds getting the exposure. If those told they can leave choose to stay and fight on, fair play to them - that shows character.
 
Another wonderkid not making it through, even Januzaj could still flop here and leave in the coming years. In the bigger picture, I think our appeal will become a little bit weaker in countries like The Netherlands (produces a lot of great talents over and over again), nowadays players are almost condemned over here when they move to a foreign topclubs, clubs use examples like van Velzen, de Laet, Pogba, Rekik, Bruma, Bouy, Ake and now they'll do the same with Pereira. Players are now getting chances at Ajax/Psv/Twente/Feyenoord aged 18. The biggest reason to go to England is to make yourself and family financial independent, that will fade eventually because when you play at a Dutch top club aged 18, you'll not earn less than the common youth contracts you get in the academy.

Other than that, in recent weeks, months, and years more and more youth players have been talkong about resisting the chance to go to England, other youth players preferring going to Ajax/PSV over other European topclubs, think of Fischer, Eriksen Boilesen, but also for now unknown ones like Muric, Cerny. Or some very tall Roma kid (new zlatan) who chose PSV over numerous European clubs just because of the thought that he'll get a chance there easier.

Ofcourse still a fair amount of players will leave to England and other countries, TFM for example. But if these clubs continue at this rate, signing the biggest talents aged 15/16 and then failing to get them in the first team eventually, I think it will have negative effect for them.
 
Can't understand the rage here. He believes he's ready for first team football, and there is no indication he'll get it anytime soon at United. His contract expires, which represents a good point in time to search for a good offer. Fair enough. Recent evidence suggests that the club's position isn't necessarily the best for a player's development.

Anyway, if he becomes a world beater elsewhere we could buy him back for 80 million in a couple of years. 85 million tops, including his entourage.
 
So, Juventus don't want him but PSV do? It's clear that the lad is having to move down about 3 or 4 levels because that's his best offer. Let him.

If he were good enough right now, he'd be playing. If the coaching staff thought he'd be good enough in the future, there'd be a massive contract waiting for him to sign. Instead, he's dropping down to the Dutch League. I'm not fussed.

Sums up my thoughts. Also, the Juve hate in here is a little odd.
 
He's no wonderkid. What the feck has done? Nothing. Play your position
 
Sorry but, have you read what he posted?

If he wants to go then, good luck to him....The fact is, he's a nobody in the grand scale of things and look at what he wrote :lol:

Ronaldo or Messi wouldn't even write that. It's insane :lol:

It's cringey, but so what? It's not as though he's offering his moral support to ISIS.

Sign him or not, but let's not decide that on the basis of this statement, tweet or whatever re the fukk it is.

I have no idea how good he really is. What I do know is that because we're in precarious position right now we just can't unleash an unproven 18 year old into the first team. If that means we miss out on a world beater when he's 22 then so be it. And if he thinks he's good enough to start for a decent club in Europe and would rather not toil in the second or third team, more power to him. If he comes good, oh well.
 
Modern footballers....

We have a manager who isn't afraid to play youth. Blackett and mcnair might have been a bit default, but a rusty looking Adnan still gets belief from LvG

He he doesn't have the patience, temperament or fight to prove his worth to the first team, then I do hope he goes. Last thing we need considering we need to fight to get back to the top as a team anyways
 
"If you're good enough, you're old enough" Maybe he's just not at 1st team level. If he wants to leave then let him leave.
 
should have sent him on loan this season - been a bit of a wasted year for him

wouldnt begrudge him leaving really - since Herrera spent most of the year on the bench, he has no chance
 
He's just one of many good young players. If he's thinking about money over playing for the top club he's at, we'll have no problem replacing him in the summer
 
He's just one of many good young players. If he's thinking about money over playing for the top club he's at, we'll have no problem replacing him in the summer
Money? If he did it for the money he would stay, reportedly Blackett will get over 20k a weak, you immediately get to be one of the best paid players in the Eredivisie if not the best, he clearly wants to develop himself and play at a decent level. Psv is a club who will play CL next season, it's no Rotherham with all respect. The Eredivisie is a fine competition too which has produced many players who are now playing at rhe very top clubs in world football and the clubs just under that level. Think of Blind, rvp, eriksen, alderweireld, elia, verthongen, djuricic, dembele, janmaat, anita, pelle, bony, even Matic played here. It's clearly not about the money, or mostly not.
 
Money? If he did it for the money he would stay, reportedly Blackett will get over 20k a weak, you immediately get to be one of the best paid players in the Eredivisie if not the best, he clearly wants to develop himself and play at a decent level. Psv is a club who will play CL next season, it's no Rotherham with all respect. The Eredivisie is a fine competition too which has produced many players who are now playing at rhe very top clubs in world football and the clubs just under that level. Think of Blind, rvp, eriksen, alderweireld, elia, verthongen, djuricic, dembele, janmaat, anita, pelle, bony, even Matic played here. It's clearly not about the money, or mostly not.

"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness
 
"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness

Thats a sensible statement tbh (not the entourage bit), of course the financial aspect is important to all footballers (its their job)
However he said its not crucial to the decision he makes. He'd likely earn more @ United than playing for PSV
 
"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness
"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness

If these are quotes then I'd send him packing. Silly kid thinking he can hold us to ransom.
 
"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness

Why are people so convinced he spoke those exact words ? The source is Tuttosport aka Italian Daily star. Some random person attached the quote to his twitter pic and folks are going berserk over something that's most likely journalistic fiction.
 
Thats a sensible statement tbh (not the entourage bit), of course the financial aspect is important to all footballers (its their job)
However he said its not crucial to the decision he makes. He'd likely earn more @ United than playing for PSV
If these are quotes then I'd send him packing. Silly kid thinking he can hold us to ransom.

I hope he leaves.
 
Money? If he did it for the money he would stay, reportedly Blackett will get over 20k a weak, you immediately get to be one of the best paid players in the Eredivisie if not the best, he clearly wants to develop himself and play at a decent level. Psv is a club who will play CL next season, it's no Rotherham with all respect. The Eredivisie is a fine competition too which has produced many players who are now playing at rhe very top clubs in world football and the clubs just under that level. Think of Blind, rvp, eriksen, alderweireld, elia, verthongen, djuricic, dembele, janmaat, anita, pelle, bony, even Matic played here. It's clearly not about the money, or mostly not.

He said "the financial aspect will be important". That was the first thing for him to mention and it was for a reason. He's trying to get the clubs talking to him to offer more
 
"Alongside my entourage, I will evaluate all the offers that we have received and will evaluate many things before taking a decision. The financial aspect will be important but not crucial in making my decision."

Offer him 50k a week then watch him and his entourage sign that contract with the quickness
Do you know a person in this football world who thinks the financial aspect is not important? And it still would be a minor or irrelevant factor, as he's not really going to earn more at PSV than he would here if he'd sign a new contract.
 
Why are people so convinced he spoke those exact words ? The source is Tuttosport aka Italian Daily star. Some random person attached the quote to his twitter pic and folks are going berserk over something that's most likely journalistic fiction.

How are you so sure they're not real? Other reputable publications are running the story. His own response or lack of one to this will speak volumes because if these are not his quotes its defamation of character/slander by a publication with a huge circulation.
 
He said "the financial aspect will be important". That was the first thing for him to mention and it was for a reason. He's trying to get the clubs talking to him to offer more
Not even sure where these quotes come from, but still that doesnt mean he's doinf it for the money. If you want to get paid a lot, stay at United, not a single player at this club isnt overpaid in terms of salary. From the youngsters till the over the top forwards. Money is ofcourse a factor, but I think it's a small one if he's really considering PSV.
 
Do you know a person in this football world who thinks the financial aspect is not important? And it still would be a minor or irrelevant factor, as he's not really going to earn more at PSV than he would here if he'd sign a new contract.

He's more likely to get a 2nd contract at PSV and they're more likely to offer him wages on a par with their high earners. He also then has the option to join a big club for a big payday, something that'll be a lot harder from here

Regardless of whether you think its important, he's told you its important and didnt mention any other factors. Theres a reason for that
 
Do you know a person in this football world who thinks the financial aspect is not important? And it still would be a minor or irrelevant factor, as he's not really going to earn more at PSV than he would here if he'd sign a new contract.

He's not only talking to PSV

"I have spoken with Pogba many times, he is a good friend and he told me that I would be well served in moving to Turin, both personally and professionally, two important things for me.

"At this time I'm tied to United. My agent is evaluating the offers that have arrived, including that of Juventus, but it's no secret. Just as it's no secret that I have turned down the offers made by my current club.

"I know the Italian league and I certainly would not be disappointed to play there as is one of the best leagues. But I have not taken a decision yet.
 
He's not only talking to PSV

"I have spoken with Pogba many times, he is a good friend and he told me that I would be well served in moving to Turin, both personally and professionally, two important things for me.

"At this time I'm tied to United. My agent is evaluating the offers that have arrived, including that of Juventus, but it's no secret. Just as it's no secret that I have turned down the offers made by my current club.

"I know the Italian league and I certainly would not be disappointed to play there as is one of the best leagues. But I have not taken a decision yet.

Err it's Tuttosport, Juventus' mouthpiece. And you're hoping Pereira leaves without even questioning the validity of the source ?
 
He's not only talking to PSV

"I have spoken with Pogba many times, he is a good friend and he told me that I would be well served in moving to Turin, both personally and professionally, two important things for me.

"At this time I'm tied to United. My agent is evaluating the offers that have arrived, including that of Juventus, but it's no secret. Just as it's no secret that I have turned down the offers made by my current club.

"I know the Italian league and I certainly would not be disappointed to play there as is one of the best leagues. But I have not taken a decision yet.

So a player has seen Pogba leave, go to Juve play well get into the first team and become a superstar.
That I would say probably will sway things more than money, especially if a club is going to offer him first team football.
I'd like him to stay personally, but only if hes going to get an opportunity, otherwise I hope he leaves and becomes a success. No point rotting in our reserves.
 
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