Very happy with this. Haven't had someone like him since Tevez. He will give us bite.
Andrea Belotti
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Depends how you define "good". He's not Aguero or Suarez and never will be. Guaranteed massive work rate though and is all round pretty good. More a case of a player that suits Mourinho I think. Probably the most aggressive but clean player around - whenever he shoots on either foot, or heads the ball , he does so with lots of power. He does miss chances though, but because of his work rate and movement he usually gets plenty more. I do think he'll be a consistent player for whoever he joins, but doubt he'll ever be a consistent 25-30 goal a season player.
Although he'll probably still be rubbish in our tactics. He's a monster for those early crosses into the box, whereas we usually wait for 30 seconds every attack for Valencia to amble forward and stand a cross up at the back post.
Italy had his fair share of Shearer like strikers from Luca Toni right to Christian Vieri.
Depends how you define "good". He's not Aguero or Suarez and never will be. Guaranteed massive work rate though and is all round pretty good. More a case of a player that suits Mourinho I think. Probably the most aggressive but clean player around - whenever he shoots on either foot, or heads the ball , he does so with lots of power. He does miss chances though, but because of his work rate and movement he usually gets plenty more. I do think he'll be a consistent player for whoever he joins, but doubt he'll ever be a consistent 25-30 goal a season player.
Although he'll probably still be rubbish in our tactics. He's a monster for those early crosses into the box, whereas we usually wait for 30 seconds every attack for Valencia to amble forward and stand a cross up at the back post.
You seem to describe Cavani, are they comparable?
He really is.
Depends how you define "good". He's not Aguero or Suarez and never will be. Guaranteed massive work rate though and is all round pretty good. More a case of a player that suits Mourinho I think. Probably the most aggressive but clean player around - whenever he shoots on either foot, or heads the ball , he does so with lots of power. He does miss chances though, but because of his work rate and movement he usually gets plenty more. I do think he'll be a consistent player for whoever he joins, but doubt he'll ever be a consistent 25-30 goal a season player.
Although he'll probably still be rubbish in our tactics. He's a monster for those early crosses into the box, whereas we usually wait for 30 seconds every attack for Valencia to amble forward and stand a cross up at the back post.
Thanks. A pre-Bayern Lewandowski? An early Benzema? That sort of player?
Ogden has been utter shite since Moyes was let go. In general English journalists didn't have a clue about who we are actually interested in for the past 3 seasons. The most reliable info always came from journalists abroad.
Edit: Except for Castles perhaps.
He looks good but I'm extremely wary of signing strikers from the Serie A. It's just not a strong league. Isn't Dzeko smashing in goals? And we know he's not good enough.
Dzeko record at City was very good. Considering he did not start often.
Not being funny, but if we are willing to drop this sort of dough on a guy who can do it in the Italian league (and it's the first season he's been prolific and he's already 23) then I would prefer we dropped it on Mbappe or even better Kane.
Dzeko was pretty good for City tbh
I always thought Ogden's source was Moyes.
I doubt he is going to cost over £40m tbh (If we signed him)
Think Diego Costa, when he can be arsed, but without the antics.
I thought it said there was a €100M release clause outside Italy.
I'm just basing this on 1.5 games watched and youtube/stuff I've read tbh. We could certainly use a player like that.
He scored 12 goals in 36 appearances last season and 7 goals in 41 appearances the year before (between club and country). Considering that Italian clubs rarely give space to young players then that is not insignificant.
Yes but its grandstanding, pretty much like the Palermo president talking smack before selling Dybala. Nobody is going to pay the release clause and they know it.
Meaning Italian clubs don't play youngsters or Italian clubs mark young players tightly?
Italian clubs just hate hype. When a kid shows promise they either send him on loan or sell him (with a buy back clause) or barely ever play him. The reason being is that they think that kids will start believing their own hype and will stop developing. In matter of fact Italian players with a Cantonesque attitude are barely liked even when they are mint (Baggio, Di Canio etc).
Belotti seem to have the same sort of tough love upbringing. He had an unsuccessful trial at Atalanta (which is one of the best schools of football in Italy) he signed with Albinoleffe and went up the ranks mostly through having to justify what he can do (his debut at a decent side came in form of a loan with right to buy and after Palermo redeemed him he was kept as a reserve and had to move once again). I can't think of many young players in the past 10 years who simply slot in at a top side. Pogba is one of these exceptions
Icardi perhaps? Signed for Inter at 20.
Icardi moved to Italy (Sampdoria) in form of a loan. He had to go up to the ranks and when he made his bones at Sampdoria he was bought in comproprieta (ie both Inter and Sampdoria owned him). Compared to others Icardi had it relatively easy but that was due
a- Sampdoria nearly got bankrupt
b- Inter wasn't the same Inter of old.
+ I do admit that foreign talent seem to have an easier go than local talent.
Cavani is a good comparison actually. Not as clinical or as strong a dribbler as Cavani at Napoli though, he's a lot less refined like Costa. Belotti definitely isn't in the same league as Benzema or Lewa technically. He might be useful for getting the best out of Pogba and Mikhi though, rather than us trying to buy a striker who we'll need to accommodate more players for.
I simply wont give an opinion until someone posts a Youtube compilation of him.
How tall is he?
Italy play a different type of football then the EPL. Its less physical and far more tactical. Belotti also play with a small team so he's used for counter attacks. Would he do well in a team were teams are happy to settle for a draw? Its a very difficult question to answer.
I wouldn't mind United spending 30m on him. Unfortunately its won't be the case. Torino had rejected a 40m bid from Arsenal in January and with Conte interested in the player + new cash going into the Milan clubs coffers, I doubt that they will settle for anything less then 45m-50m. Under such circumstances I doubt he's worth it.
181 cm, 5'11.5
Decent height, i expected him to be shorter.
He is a really good striker, good goal to game ratio for Wolfsburg, City (considering he wasn't a consistent starter) and Roma. Still think he could play for a top PL team
I want him here 100%. Would probably end up costing us 40-45 million to get him. He's brave, quick, two-footed, great in the air(most headed goals in Europe) and works for the team. Will run the lines all day long. He's absolutely the right type of striker for us, and only 23. Please stop saying "but he plays in Italy" that's not relevant at all as the best Italian strikers stay in Italy(historically) He can't go to Juve and the rest won't be able to afford him. Go Woody, go!
So he has a crazy buy-out fee. Says himself it's too high. And MEN then say if we were to meet the buy-out clause Torino would "surely consider" letting him go. Do they know what a buy-out clause is?
This guy does not have the finesse to him as compared to say Morata. However, I've got a gut feeling that Belotti has what it takes to succeed in the PL. He's the rough striker sort. He'll get you goals that may not be easy on the eyes. That's not to mention that he doesn't score eye pleasing goals. Morata on the other hand is a dribbler unlike Belotti, Morata is no pushover as well. He stands at a commanding 6'2 and prefers to score his goals with his feet unlike Belotti whose definitely a good header of the ball. It's a difficult choice but I would be happy with either of them.
Rough and tumble striker whose style would fit well in the PL. He's got Costa like qualities without the handbags. He's never going to be the most talented but he's tenacious and willing to give up his body to score.
Some of you guys are talking about 40-45m, while Torino have reportedly rejected a €65m bid by Arsenal earlier this year!!
http://www.espnfc.com/story/3034724...senal-bid-for-andrea-belotti-gianluca-petrachi
It's obvious now that Torino won't let him go unless his buyout clause is met, or some ridiculous €80m were offered.
He's not worth it imo.
http://www.espnfc.com/story/3034724...senal-bid-for-andrea-belotti-gianluca-petrachi
It's obvious now that Torino won't let him go unless his buyout clause is met, or some ridiculous €80m were offered.
He's not worth it imo.
The 65 million euros number comes from AS, which is a crap source.Some of you guys are talking about 40-45m, while Torino have reportedly rejected a €65m bid by Arsenal earlier this year!!
http://www.espnfc.com/story/3034724...senal-bid-for-andrea-belotti-gianluca-petrachi
It's obvious now that Torino won't let him go unless his buyout clause is met, or some ridiculous €80m were offered.
He's not worth it imo.
he or whoever else we sign up front is going to need better, faster service to thrive here. It'll be great to have mata back. We've missed him chipping in with goals as assists. This lad and Fabinho and another creative would improve us so much. It's really good being linked with some of the best prospects in the world.
Never seen him play but I like the sound of this guy. Sorry if this question has already been answered but is he comfortable playing as a lone man up top? I've seen Morata play the lone man role for Spain and he doesn't look comfortable.
Dzeko had an atrocious first year and a very good second year. Obviously a decent striker who had trouble adapting to the new league initially.
Yes, in his current team He does exactly that
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