Andrea Belotti
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Di Marzio isn't the gate keeper to all things accurate in journalism. Other journos routinely have accurate information, otherwise the Twitter thread would be completely pointless.
Yes. + Immobile, Benatia (BL) or even Veron and Schevchenko (PL). Bit worry always when spending big to Serie A star. Specially in these days when Serie A belongs somewhere between Ligue 1 and Bundesliga. And even more near Ligue 1.
Di Marzio might be worth listening to on Italian players (or those playing in Italy), as is the case here. Not sure he's particularly reliable on anything else, though. As others have said, Castles will probably have it first, if it's there to be had.
I think that's a reasonable concern to have about Italian-based wingers/fullbacks, for the reasons given in this article (essentially, the gentler pace, narrow formations and resultant space out wide in Serie A can make the occasional winger appear substantially better than they actually are), but it's not such a concern for centre-backs, centre-midfielders and strikers.
Oh yeah, baldy completely skipped me. He'll know about our dealings too but I have rarely seen Di Marzio get much wrong with us, dude kept us updated the entire time during Pogba saga last year!
Never said he was, just that he's the most reliable one when it comes to us (alongside Castles) and he's the best journalist for Serie A transfers, so if we are really in for Belotti I expect us to hear something from him soon.
All of them
I like the look of this Schick kid mire than Belotti though.
This needs to be here, turn the volume down.
I think he is a very complete striker, can run with the ball, good movement off it, can head it, is very strong and has an eye for a pass and decent dribbling ability. Very much like diego costa i think,i would love to have him here. Him and griezmann/bernardo silva in would be stuff of dreams for us. He is shit at penalties and most of his goals are from open play, that makes his record fantastic.
So hes a two footed finisher? Interesting. I mean that he seems to be ok finishing with his weaker foot btw
And a very good header of the ball. I mean very very good.
Seems so from the videos. Is he better than Icardi though?
Good in the air, which is not bad thing. Im not sold but i would not say no too... Just not sure about Serie A players like i said.
If it's true that Griezmann is having doubts about playing in England and only wants to come if we play CL then i'm not so sure i still want him to come.
Belotti sounds good if we get rid of Rooney but he shouldn't be our main striker, we already have a young striker with Rashford.
Belotti sounds good if we get rid of Rooney but he shouldn't be our main striker, we already have a young striker with Rashford.
Just a few weeks ago I was explaining to a friend what type of player Belotti was and the best I could come up with is a shorter faster better dribbler, less of a total cnut Diego Costa.
He's fantastic in the air and is quick. I'm not here saying he can do it in the PL but he seems like a Jose player.
He's fantastic in the air and is quick. I'm not here saying he can do it in the PL but he seems like a Jose player.
Belotti has a lot more desire passion and heart.
Ravanelli was very much world class, not as good as he was a Juve but he still scored a lot for Boro. That Boro team with him and Juninho was amazing.
Zola was also world class. His misfortune was being part of a generation of Italy #10s that included Baggio, Del Piero, Totti etc. Great player though.
I can't judge Belotti, not seen him play. He sounds like the 'killer' Jose has been looking for though. How long has he been scoring at the current rate? Is this a one season wonder thing or something deeper?
Right, i have just watched a youtube video of him. And based on that alone, he's a real brute who will and can bully defenders to get to the opposition goal but he can be quite awkward in his dribbling. Also the fecker is a real monster in the air. And i agree with one of the posters above that he's actually quite similar to Diego Costa
Am i right in my scouting on him so far?
Am i right in my scouting on him so far?
What a day, looks like we've signed Griezmann, Belotti and Bernardo Silva.
Icardi is another good striker in seria A but is in a team that is poorly coached. The thing with icardi and its based on my very limited viewing of Seria A is that he does not create enough of his own chances,Where as with belotti i think he will score and create chances. A bit like costa/kane. I think he has highest chance creation among all seria A strikers, i also would bet he has the highest goals/min ratio in Seria A. This season atleast he is better than any striker in Seria A that includes Gonzalo"fatboy" Higuain. If belotti had juve's midfield behind him, i would put juve as favorites to win the CL from here on.
Yes please
Dont forget Kasper and micheal keane but on downside zlatan and degea are leaving and rooney will also leave though that is an upside.
Today's in and out-
IN
Belotti
Griezmann
Silva
Keane
kasper
Out
Zlat
De gea
Rooney
I do think we will sign a striker and griezmann or silva. With silva being the contingency plan to griezmann if he decides to stick with atleti for another season.
Excuse the poor music but linking this video shows one thing; if he were to join (and I'm not convinced he'd be a good signing), he certainly will never be on pens.
Can anyone make a comparison matrix between him,icardi,zlatan and kane? I have made it but i dont know how to post it here.
He would suit us fine. A fighter. And a true goalscorer.
I'm not convinced by Belotti yet. He does show some great attributes, don't get me wrong. But he's 23 and it's the first season where he's done well as a goalscorer, although admittedly he did play as a winger before as well.
I'd want to see him maintain this form over at least two seasons, before considering spunking silly money on him. All the other strikers we've been talking about, from Lacazette to Griezmann to Lukaku etc, have been producing the goods for at least 3-4 years in a row.
Torino would love for someone to "bite" and spend an exorbitant fee for him this summer. There's no guarantee he'll have another season like this and if he doesn't his value will plummet.
I'd want to see him maintain this form over at least two seasons, before considering spunking silly money on him. All the other strikers we've been talking about, from Lacazette to Griezmann to Lukaku etc, have been producing the goods for at least 3-4 years in a row.
Torino would love for someone to "bite" and spend an exorbitant fee for him this summer. There's no guarantee he'll have another season like this and if he doesn't his value will plummet.
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Wow, imagine having our strikers this season with the cool finishing he shows at 2:16.
I would cream myself silly if we got Belotti.
He's my most wanted player this summer, ahead of Griezmann. He's exactly what we need: a strong, pacy forward who is good on the floor and in the air, good movement and can finish. He's the right age and profile to target as well - we can build him into a superstar, which is what Fergie always did, rather than buying establish WC players.
He's my most wanted player this summer, ahead of Griezmann. He's exactly what we need: a strong, pacy forward who is good on the floor and in the air, good movement and can finish. He's the right age and profile to target as well - we can build him into a superstar, which is what Fergie always did, rather than buying establish WC players.
I've followed his career closely since i found out about him ten minutes ago. Dream signing
I haven't seen him outside of highlights, but stylistically, it would make sense for us to sign a great aerial striker. I wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho trusts Rashford already (and likes Martial as a prospect) as a 9 on the counter with his pace, but doesn't think he can necessarily count on him for the 25+ goals he'll want from his 9 next year.
Belotti seems to be mainly a threat in the box, and when teams sit deep against us or even coming off the bench, that would be ideal. So while spending 40 or 60M or whatever it'll cost for a sort of platoon type might seem insane, what it does is lower the floor on the signing. Unless he's a complete flop, he will help us just by being so different than Rashford and Martial.
Basically, if we sign Belotti and Griezmann we'd have Belotti, Rashford and Martial for the 9 and LW spots and Griezmann, Mkhitaryan and Mata for the 10 and RW spots, with Lingard as the swing depth guy and maybe Mata moves on in the summer of 2018 at the age of 30 and Lingard moves up a notch.
Maybe not quite enough starts for everyone if we play a ton of 4-3-3 but you gotta figure there will be injuries and even when there isn't and we play 4-3-3 and start let's say Belotti, Mkhitaryan and Griezmann, we'd have a bench of Rashford, Martial and Mata along with a CM, an FB, a CB and a GK and that looks about right.
Also, some of the issue would be mitigated by the fact that early in the season when we play in the league with less europe and cup games we'll probably play more 4-2-3-1 with the extra attacking mid and when there are 2 games a week we'll need everyone anyways. Also injuries should mean at least one of the big 6 attackers is often out anyways.
Belotti seems to be mainly a threat in the box, and when teams sit deep against us or even coming off the bench, that would be ideal. So while spending 40 or 60M or whatever it'll cost for a sort of platoon type might seem insane, what it does is lower the floor on the signing. Unless he's a complete flop, he will help us just by being so different than Rashford and Martial.
Basically, if we sign Belotti and Griezmann we'd have Belotti, Rashford and Martial for the 9 and LW spots and Griezmann, Mkhitaryan and Mata for the 10 and RW spots, with Lingard as the swing depth guy and maybe Mata moves on in the summer of 2018 at the age of 30 and Lingard moves up a notch.
Maybe not quite enough starts for everyone if we play a ton of 4-3-3 but you gotta figure there will be injuries and even when there isn't and we play 4-3-3 and start let's say Belotti, Mkhitaryan and Griezmann, we'd have a bench of Rashford, Martial and Mata along with a CM, an FB, a CB and a GK and that looks about right.
Also, some of the issue would be mitigated by the fact that early in the season when we play in the league with less europe and cup games we'll probably play more 4-2-3-1 with the extra attacking mid and when there are 2 games a week we'll need everyone anyways. Also injuries should mean at least one of the big 6 attackers is often out anyways.
Seems a good half second in front of everybody else. He'd represent a Quantum Leap in our attacking play.
kasper? ehm...no, Donnaruma
Delaney as a source is on the same level as The Star, The Express and The Metro.
I'll wait for updates from Don Marzio to get excited about our summer transfer targets and they won't come out until the season ends (as we'll need CL football for our main targets).
I'll wait for updates from Don Marzio to get excited about our summer transfer targets and they won't come out until the season ends (as we'll need CL football for our main targets).
If we pay 80m for this lad... jesus
Still undecided on him. His record speaks for itself, but the lack of silk to his game leaves a lingering feeling for me that this may run out soon, as he's not the most 'naturally gifted' forward player I've ever seen.
Still, a proper #9 if that's what we're after. None of this 'he prefers to drift to the left' or whatever.
Still, a proper #9 if that's what we're after. None of this 'he prefers to drift to the left' or whatever.
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