Doubt that Barcelona want him and given Juve have just got Pjanić I'd be stunned if they want Andre Gomes...
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Doubt that Barcelona want him and given Juve have just got Pjanić I'd be stunned if they want Andre Gomes...
We probably see him as a back up option if we can't sign Mkhitaryan
I'm not convinced he'd be the best way to spend £30m+. Personally I'd throw all that money at Leicester to get Kante.
Well both have been linked with him for a while, particularly Juve.
Out of the two, it's a no contest though. Plus I think they offer different things really.
They play completely different positions.
Both are attacking midfielders? I know Mkhitaryan played a lot on the right last season but he has been playing centrally for the most of his carreer.
Gomes naturally plays deeper.
If we get Mhkitaryan then I imagine it will be to play on the right as I sure Mata will be sold under Mourinho.
--------------------Kante-----------
----------Gomes------Rooney----
Mkhitaryan---Zlatan-----Martial
It may be a case of who we can get. Kante has probably sealed himself a move to one of the big Champions League clubs given his displays at the Euros.
No shit.
He's 22. Of course he's not consistent yet. Not many are at 22. Pjanic is the epitome of inconsistency and yet you have people moaning we didn't get him. But he was one of Valencia's best players in his first season at the club and had injury troubles to start of with this season as well as the whole Neville fiasco. Not surprising his form has tailed off this season.
Is he worth 30m or whatever it will take to buy him? Possibly the most pointless question of the lot. Martial probably isn't worth whatever we paid for him but I doubt anyone gives a shit now. That's not to suggest Gomes is as good or will prove to be as big a success as Martial but he does look a fabulously talented player with all the ingredients to become a fantastic midfielder. At that price it would be a gamble no doubt, but given his talent it's a gamble worth taking for me.
I tead kante as kane and thought you wanted to play ibra in a midfield 3. Thought lvg had an account!
Pjanic has been consistent and playing well for several years now. Andre Gomes wasn't one of Valencia's best players in his first season. Mustafi, Otamendi, Parejo, Gaya and Piatti were all better than him.
You're being a tad harsh there.
How so? Because they are mostly older players? I'm just trying to add balance to the discussion and he wasn't one of their best players, not sure how that makes me harsh. Especially considering the post I quoted is extremely harsh on Pjanic.
No he was in the discussion as one of their best players in that season. Yes the previous post regarding Pjanic was also harsh, but I didn't quote that.
Nonsense. Last season was perhaps the first time in his entire career that he's had a somewhat acceptable level of consistency. You had Roma fans on here bemoaning his inconsistency and even his attitude not too long back. Consistent for years...jesus.
I'd say he was. Obviously, it's hard to quantify and compare with defenders but on a midfield and attacking front he was right up there with the influence he had on the team.
Sturridggeee!!!!!!!!!!
He seems like a better version of Herrera and someone who wouldn't fit us, he is wonderful on the ball and can dribble past players, but he has the same problem Herrera has, they both are not capable of playing CM and don't have near good enough long range passing ability to dictate the play, lastly he needs a destroyer to do the dirty work for him, he is weak defensively.
Well thats clearly in the wrong thread. But my question is how do you post in an entirely wrong forum?
Do you live in lala land? We wont go for Gomes and Kante
If you are on Football, then you have the football, transfer and United forum at once.
Ballbag has no sources, can safely ignore.
Did Mou say he wont sign any Portuguese players or just no players from the Portuguese League?
If I knew being a journalist was this easy, maybe I would have taken it up as my 2nd job. Just taking the piss the whole day, putting two and two together and using a bit of common sense.
Picture this. What if i was watching the game on t.v while also viewing this forum and the england vs wales forum. Then sturridge scored. Suddenly I decide to post the news on my laptop which had the two seperate threads open at the same time not knowing I was posting in the wrong thread. By the time I realized its too late. Do you understand now or its too impossible for you?
Why shouldnt we go for both ?
Most of our midfielders are shite if we want to improve the team we will need to invest in new players.
I think next to Bailly we will get Ibra, a RW, a DM and a more creative CAM.
Given that Ibra will be a free signing there will be money enough to spend on Kante and Gomes, might also be different targets ofcourse. Dont think you need to live in lala land to believe that.
I dont see us going for a DM when we have Carrick, Schweini and Schneidi, to an extent even TFM
Except that none of them is actually any good on the position with the exception of Fosu-Mensah who is still very young and will get game time on several positions.
Schneiderlin has to play more as a box to box. Schweinsteiger and Carrick shouldnt play alot anyway especially Carrick as his legs are gone, Schweinsteiger will likely not even stay fit.
So unless we want to keep switching from one poor option to the next and give up on any sort of defensive continuity in the team then yes we can do with a DM. If need be make place for one.
I could easily call your post nonsense as well, only my nonsense is statistically backed up. Why have Juventus brought him then?
http://www.football-italia.net/85881/allegri-‘pjanic-improves-juventus’
Allegri:
Also, can you point me to the posts of Roma fans calling him inconsistent? I did a quick search and couldn't find any. That's not me mocking you, I genuinely can't remember posts of Roma fans on here or whether we actually had Roma fans at all. I'm not even saying that Pjanic is as good as Modric or something or that he hasn't struggled with consistency over the years, but IMO he's simply better than you think he is.
Edit: He was very good for Bosnia at the World Cup, too.
On squawka he's statistically their worst rated player of that season. Squawka's and whoscored's rating system is without any doubt flawed, but usually the best players tend to be the highest rated on both and it's the same with the players who aren't enjoying a good season. I definitely remember Otamendi, Mustafi, Gaya and Parejo as better players during that season as well.
http://www.squawka.com/players/andr...eason-2014/2015#136#all-matches#1-37#by-match
I remember looking at Gomes on squawka when we first linked with him. His stats for a number of metrics are remarkably bad.
That's the other extreme. Stats don't paint the whole picture and there's definitely talent there, but I think there are better options in terms of talented CMs than him, players of that same age group who have been more consistent.
No doubt there are better options. Clubs that are looking at him are purely thinking in terms of 'potential'. They wouldn't be interested if he was 28 years old. When and IF he does puts it all together some day though oh boy there's a potential gold mine in there.
League.
I don't see the validity of such an argument to be honest mate. Juventus are interested in signing Gomes as well. By your logic everything that holds true for Pjanic must be true for Gomes as well? As for stats, Stewart Downing was supposedly the most creative player in the league when Liverpool signed him. That didn't work out too well now did it...
You literally said Pjanic has been consistent for years in the first post I quoted! I actually think Pjanic is quite talented (Said as much in the Pjanic thread) but he's been horribly inconsistent throughout his entire career. These are the posts I'm referring to (Only just realized the guy was banned. Strange. Seemed a very mild mannered guy):
I think it's more remarkable that he still gets coverage or that people listen to him after all these years
Fair enough. Yes, I admit I didn't word it ideally. I meant that overall he has been playing well for Roma in my book, but he also had periods where he went missing. His last season and 2013/14 were better than 2014/15 and 2012/2013, if I recall it correctly. For what it's worth I don't think he's suited to the EPL and we haven't missed out on him, currently I have the same doubts with Andre Gomes though.
It's a big if for me at this moment in time. I just think there are safer bets than him.
Playing in a midfield 3 tonight, rather than as a wide CM.
Only watching the 2nd half, so dunno how he did initially. But he's impressed me so far. Clever runs, smart and skillful in possession and tenacious in defending. I would happily have him at United.
He's been tidy so far and played a part in their complete domination. Not see much of him going forward so far though.
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