Andre Gomes

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If Rooney is a guaranteed starter for us in midfield next season (and it's looking like it might be), I don't think Gomes is defensively reliable enough. Someone like Schneiderlin will have to start alongside to cover for him.
 
SSN reporting that Chelsea have a 32m bid rejected for him.
 
Why don't we first replace carrick with a toni kross type of player before going for all these midfielders who don't sit back and dictate. If we buy this guy before buying a carrick replacement he will end up like herrera. He is good but he hardly sits back. Schneiderlin was supposed to be that player but he doesn't dictate games well enough.
 
Not to fuzzed about this signing. Altough I can't see anyone better now that Pjanic went to Juventus.

There are probably some shit hot 18\19 year olds around, but I suspect Mourinho wants someone more experienced. And with the "Mourinho is a great manager" quote from this guy I think we will get him if we want, that was basically a come get me plea. Not sure about the valuation though.
 
The red panther said:
100% tackles but how many ?

53 passes is not alot plus what is the success %

2 shots and assist is ok

But overall these stats dont say much. He looks a gracefull tidy player but I dont feel that spark of brilliance you would expect of a 50m player.

Just dont see him tearing down organised defences in the PL.
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Was thinking the exact same thing about the stats
 
Watched Gomes play last night for the first time and I was disappointed. He may be a better player than on last night's showing but he's no way worth anywhere near the kind of price being quoted.
 
032Devil said:
Watched Gomes play last night for the first time and I was disappointed. He may be a better player than on last night's showing but he's no way worth anywhere near the kind of price being quoted.
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You got that from one game, where he was playing out of position?
 
MDFC Manager said:
We're probably not interested, then?
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We shouldn't be for that fee.

SwansonsTache said:
Not to fuzzed about this signing. Altough I can't see anyone better now that Pjanic went to Juventus.

There are probably some shit hot 18\19 year olds around, but I suspect Mourinho wants someone more experienced. And with the "Mourinho is a great manager" quote from this guy I think we will get him if we want, that was basically a come get me plea. Not sure about the valuation though.
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Do you mean there isn't anyone better as a creative CM or CMs in general?
 
bucky said:
Do you mean there isn't anyone better as a creative CM or CMs in general?
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As a creative CM which I guess we are mainly looking for. Sure there are better ones around, but not realistic signings. IMO we need a 'transitional' player which can take us from defence to attack and ideally carry the ball, either that or we need a deep lying playmaker ala Kroos. Both kind of players are really hard to get, I can't see any viable alternatives out there tbf.
 
SwansonsTache said:
As a creative CM which I guess we are mainly looking for. Sure there are better ones around, but not realistic signings. IMO we need a 'transitional' player which can take us from defence to attack and ideally carry the ball, either that or we need a deep lying playmaker ala Kroos. Both kind of players are really hard to get, I can't see any viable alternatives out there tbf.
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Well, because I'd argue that Tolisso, Goretzka and Dahoud are better than Andre Gomes based on last season. Neither of those players is going to transform or massively improve our midfield immediately though. They would be for the future.
 
Cassidy said:
You got that from one game, where he was playing out of position?
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I Know very little about him - including his usual position. Apart from his involvement in Nani's goal he was almost (but not quiet) anonymous. Anyway, Rooney was playing in a unfamiliar position too but was very good at it.
 
032Devil said:
I Know very little about him - including his usual position. Apart from his involvement in Nani's goal he was almost (but not quiet) anonymous. Anyway, Rooney was playing in a unfamiliar position too but was very good at it.
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My point was you are basing that opinion on one game. Watching Harry Kane vs Russia is he even worth £10?
Point being you cannot make a judgement on a player based on one game, especially in an international
 
Cassidy said:
My point was you are basing that opinion on one game. Watching Harry Kane vs Russia is he even worth £10?
Point being you cannot make a judgement on a player based on one game, especially in an international
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I got your point and you are right: Ronaldo was crap too. As was Kane, but I've read lots of comments online with supporters eulogising his performance against Iceland and demanding or wishing United sign him up for the ridiculous prices being quoted and it irked me. That's all.
 
I'd rather get Kante as the DM, use schneiderlin as box to box and then Rooney/Herrera/Micky as the 10.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Not to fuzzed about this signing. Altough I can't see anyone better now that Pjanic went to Juventus.

There are probably some shit hot 18\19 year olds around, but I suspect Mourinho wants someone more experienced. And with the "Mourinho is a great manager" quote from this guy I think we will get him if we want, that was basically a come get me plea. Not sure about the valuation though.
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Wouldn't read much into that quote. If you went and asked him now what he thought of Guardiola, Conte or Wenger he'd say the same thing.
 
I was very impressed with him. Created the goal, made chances, tidy in possession, very skillful.

I'd take him over Herrera any day of the week. Mourinho will love this guy.
 
Admittedly I haven't seen him play an awful lot but £32m seems like a lot for a player of Gomes' ability.

If they're rejecting that, presumably we'd need to pay close to £40m for him. Surely there's better value elsewhere?
 
I like the look of him - refined, good passer, nice ability on the ball. He looks like he could get even better.
 
Not only his name and look but his style of play reminds me a lot of Jordi Gomez.

I'm not overly fussed on him if they are rejecting 32m for him.
 
I don't think he is better then herrera or if he he is not by much (maybe has potential, debatable) same goes for Mario.

I don't see the point in spending £30/40m on him and selling herrera for £15m. I think we either buy a top top class players or don't bother at all. We have plenty of decent players that haven't been getting the best out of them. Hopefully just play then in positions and systems that people can understand allowing them some attacking freedom to play in a way that is natural to them.

Buying more decent tidy player's won't resolve our issues.
 
We would be daft to go after him now. 32m already seems a lot for him and we could have had Pjanic, who is clearly the better player, for much less. SMH.
 
RDCR07 said:
We would be daft to go after him now. 32m already seems a lot for him and we could have had Pjanic, who is clearly the better player, for much less. SMH.
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Could we, really? I find it funny that people just think that players can be bought like objects in a shop where you just pay the going rate and everyone who wants a Pjanic will get one! Pjanic clearly chose Juventus over us and a host of other suitors that included Barcelona. It's not like we didn't go for the player and chose Gomes instead.
 
1 game can really change peoples' judgement over a player.
He did look a little too complacent last night though.
 
On his performance last night, he's not a step-up on what we already have, so why spend 40m? Too many expensive changes of personnel in the last three years without improving the team.

Maybe he'll show more in the next two games.
 
Cassidy said:
Might be true, however there is a lot that Andre Gomes can do that wasn't seen tonight
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I agree, he wasn't as eager to really get himself involved in the game which was a shame considering what he can do on a daily basis. Look forward to seeing him play again on Saturday hopefully.
 
Obiorahking_ said:
1 game can really change peoples' judgement over a player.
He did look a little too complacent last night though.
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Probably 1 more full game than half the people wanting him had watched though. He's just not a top class player.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Probably 1 more full game than half the people wanting him had watched though. He's just not a top class player.
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Of course not. His decision making still needs a lot of improvement as does his inconsistent workrate( not the first time he has looked like this tbh)

His incredible skillset, athleticism, and potential as a midfielder is what makes him such an exciting prospect. He has incredible potential to be a top ten player if you ask me, it just comes down to his development and maturity as a player.
 
Havent seen much of him at all, but watching him last night he was involved in a lot of good things Portugal done. He was a bit wasteful with the ball at times but overall I was impressed with him. Think we have better options than him but would still have him in the team but not for the money there wanting.
 
Obiorahking_ said:
Of course not. His decision making still needs a lot of improvement as does his inconsistent workrate( not the first time he has looked like this tbh)

His incredible skillset, athleticism, and potential as a midfielder is what makes him such an exciting prospect. He has incredible potential to be a top ten player if you ask me, it just comes down to his development and maturity as a player.
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He's clearly talented but he's just not close to being top ten player material, not sure how you could argue that.

His consistency is a big problem.
 
Will Absolute said:
On his performance last night, he's not a step-up on what we already have, so why spend 40m? Too many expensive changes of personnel in the last three years without improving the team.

Maybe he'll show more in the next two games.
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What do you mean by that? Is it you he has to impress before we sign him or United? Because I'm guessing our scouts watched him a lot more than you have, hence our interest before the Euros had even kicked off.
 
pocco said:
What do you mean by that? Is it you he has to impress before we sign him or United? Because I'm guessing our scouts watched him a lot more than you have, hence our interest before the Euros had even kicked off.
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You'd be right there; but the Transfer Forum would be pretty dull if posters couldn't offer their impressions of a player without having watched him since he was ten years old. You can't qualify every post with 'in my opinion, based on the negligible amount of him I've seen' after all.

If we do buy him, I hope the scouts have gotten it right. Our recent record in the transfer market is hardly infallible though. A positive is that Jose has had plenty of time to think about United's requirements over the last few months, and I'm sure he's done his homework.
 
Will Absolute said:
You'd be right there; but the Transfer Forum would be pretty dull if posters couldn't offer their impressions of a player without having watched him since he was ten years old. You can't qualify every post with 'in my opinion, based on the negligible amount of him I've seen' after all.
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Yep, the transfer forum is really tedious these days. People are constantly taking swipes at anyone who dares to post that they aren't initially impressed with a hugely hyped young player. As if the opinion of anyone on here matters or has any impact.
 
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The youtube compilations wont do him any favours. If you actually watch a normal game from him, you see that he is good, but not top class. The videos make him look like a world beater, which he isnt.
 
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