André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC

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Ikon said:
One major issue with an African keeper, is when they are away for a month playing in the Cup of Nations.
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Sweet baby Jesus. As mentioned about 50 times, he has retired from international football. Is the next question why didn’t EtH sign him on a free?
 
cyberman said:
I don’t think this is true. There were reports of only having 100m to spend that morphed into can’t spend until the takeover was completed to the budget being around 120m to buying Mount before July allows us to spend even more.
There’s a post on Reddit that seemed to make a good point. The ffp reports came out before the club revealed we paid off almost all of the 200m credit line we took out last summer. The fact 100m hasn’t been rowed back since then shows how how embedded the journos are to clickbait news
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Fair comment. I can't honestly claim to be well-informed enough to give a reasonable evaluation.
 
I think there will be a lot of people here realising the grass isn’t always greener - Onana is fantastic with his feet but he isn’t a great shot stopper and even the stuff he does save goes back in the danger area, which in the PL will mean instant punishment. One of the areas De Gea was truly top tier was pushing the ball away from oncoming opposition players.
 
Anyone else a bit concerned we’ll lose him for a month during the African cup of nations?
 
I'm very concerned it's mostly the Italian sources who are sounding so positive and confident about this. They said the same about Kim Min-jae this summer and they've been known BSers in previous years regarding SMS, for example.

I'm hoping it's true and not just bluster from the club to try and panic DDG into signing a lesser deal
 
Like the idea of this signing but could someone explain to me how we're going to deal with him going off to AFCON and why Ten Hag didn't sign him last summer on a free?
 
Adamsk7 said:
I think there will be a lot of people here realising the grass isn’t always greener - Onana is fantastic with his feet but he isn’t a great shot stopper and even the stuff he does save goes back in the danger area, which in the PL will mean instant punishment. One of the areas De Gea was truly top tier was pushing the ball away from oncoming opposition players.
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You can get away with an average shot stopper as long as your keeper is excellent with his feet, pushes the team further up the pitch and is generally commanding. A proactive style of football. That being said, I think Onana is better than average when it comes to shot stopping.
 
Kaos said:
Like the idea of this signing but could someone explain to me how we're going to deal with him going off to AFCON and why Ten Hag didn't sign him last summer on a free?
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I fear these questions will remain eternal mysteries
 
The AFCON is still a concern if his sole reason was Song. If Song goes he could very well play again.
 
DJ_21 said:
And why would you agree terms with a player before you know the club wants to sell? :lol:
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There are thousands of agents working to move around their clients, talking to both the current club and possible target clubs. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware who is on the market.
 
Bubz27 said:
Is he African? Because I know he says he is 27 buutt...
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He had a fallout with the coach and that is why he left. That is why people are questioning if he might return to the national team if a different manager is appointed.
 
I would have preferred Costa as he's a better shot stopper but nevertheless Onana's distribution will improve our build-up play considerably.
 
Bojan Djordjic said:
Think the problem with De Gea is that even still on occasion he has the ability to make saves only ten keepers in the world could make (and maybe Onana can't) but he will then concede possession in games United are dominating and allow a goal where you think "FFS Massimo Taibi saves those".

Can't put my finger on it but he's so cowardly and the opposite to clutch. Absolutely hates the physical stuff. It's a shame but as amazing as he's been on a personal basis, I now associate him more with things like his performance in Ole's EL Final - making no penalty saves and that embarrassing Arsenal goal a couple of seasons back where he was just lying on the floor after getting an accidental kick from Fred expecting play to stop and Arsenal just slot it in while he's rolling around. His peaks have been during the team's nadir - best keeper in the world when we're getting hosed but blunders come into his game as we improve. Really looking forward to having someone like Onana or Costa if it comes to it and we can hopefully start building up like every other modern team does.
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Yep. And I don't want to start rewriting his past or making it seem like he was overrated - but clutch is absolutely something he never was really. You think back in the biggest games... How often did he actually come up big? Id say far more often in cup finals or semi finals that he in fact let us down or we bailed him out rather than de Gea stepping up in them. Brave is just something he has never been.

Generally speaking though, I don't think a keeper who can make wonder saves is all that useful to a big team. Much better for small teams where they get peppered a lot. For big sides, you want concentration, organization, commanding your box, relishing the big occasions and in modern football playing out from the back to be immune to a high press. They can be average shot stoppers, so long as when it gets to the big games that they step up rather than crumble.
 
If you take out all comments on siging him for free and worries about the Africa cup and you could summarize this entire thread in 2 pages.
 
Adamsk7 said:
I think there will be a lot of people here realising the grass isn’t always greener - Onana is fantastic with his feet but he isn’t a great shot stopper and even the stuff he does save goes back in the danger area, which in the PL will mean instant punishment. One of the areas De Gea was truly top tier was pushing the ball away from oncoming opposition players.
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On the contrary I think people will realize just how much de Gea held us back lately
 
SATA said:
Brozovic is for sale too? Now that’s a very good player. Can we do a double deal + Onana?

Anyway i think we’ll sign a goalkeeper before deciding on the striker profile and depending on the budget with any outgoing sales
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Exactly - not sure why we wouldn’t be bidding for Brozovic as well.
 
think Brozo already agreed to join a Saudi club. Also signing a player like him makes too much sense for a club like United.
 
SATA said:
Brozovic is for sale too? Now that’s a very good player. Can we do a double deal + Onana?

Anyway i think we’ll sign a goalkeeper before deciding on the striker profile and depending on the budget with any outgoing sales
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captaincantona said:
Exactly - not sure why we wouldn’t be bidding for Brozovic as well.
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That ship has sailed, the time to get him was two years ago (?) when him and Kessie I think were both free transfers. Would've fixed our DM / #8 positions.

I was hoping we'd sign Conte and give him Brozovic.
 
bosnian_red said:
Yep. And I don't want to start rewriting his past or making it seem like he was overrated - but clutch is absolutely something he never was really. You think back in the biggest games... How often did he actually come up big? Id say far more often in cup finals or semi finals that he in fact let us down or we bailed him out rather than de Gea stepping up in them. Brave is just something he has never been.

Generally speaking though, I don't think a keeper who can make wonder saves is all that useful to a big team. Much better for small teams where they get peppered a lot. For big sides, you want concentration, organization, commanding your box, relishing the big occasions and in modern football playing out from the back to be immune to a high press. They can be average shot stoppers, so long as when it gets to the big games that they step up rather than crumble.
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This is a good point in the last paragraph. Ederson has far fewer shots against him than any other keeper in the league because he is so well protected. Therefore these other skills become more important and his shot-stopping ability less so.
 
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