André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC
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Simon Stone looking like a bit of a tit if a bid is imminent.
No, clubs talks with players agents way before they start negotiating fees with their clubs. It would make no sense to negotiate and agree with a club just to end up being rejected by the player or unable to be anywhere near each others expectations.
I think he’d join if his club accepted an offer. I think their owners wants a lot more from us and Will accept less from the likes of Bayern.
That's what tapping up used to be though, right?
Do the agents work as and intermediary for the purchase price too?
Again purely speculation but looking at his situation if he leaves Spurs it's purely for trophies before he retires. I think right now he'd be justified to say Real or Bayern can offer him far more of a guarantee for trophies than we can.
Either way who knows, like I said purely speculation.
Will have that Rihanna song in my head all the time if he joins us
No. Tapping up is when you don't ask permission to the club which can happen, clubs and players will use intermediaries for that reason. But clubs can simply ask permission to talk to a player, as far as I understand clubs aren't generally bothered about it because even if they don't want to lose the player it allows to set a price in the context of an extension or it allows the club to gauge the market for a player or a position.
Oo na na thats his name, I was thinking. Both are lovely.
It can happen, it depends on who is involved.
Most excited I've been about a transfer in years and it's for a keeper.
I sort of think the intended message of Stone's Tweet might have been that United would have to sell in order to afford both a striker and a goalkeeper, and he just worded it very poorly. As reliable as his information is, I don't think Stone is always the best at getting the point across if I'm honest.
Well, you have a valid point that African keepers are often called showkeepers and you are absolutely right Onana commented on this himself that black keeper's mistakes are highlighted more when they happen. If it is a pre-conceived bias it is definitely nurtured by media.
I don’t think this is true. There were reports of only having 100m to spend that morphed into can’t spend until the takeover was completed to the budget being around 120m to buying Mount before July allows us to spend even more.
There’s a post on Reddit that seemed to make a good point. The ffp reports came out before the club revealed we paid off almost all of the 200m credit line we took out last summer. The fact 100m hasn’t been rowed back since then shows how how embedded the journos are to clickbait news
Time to whip out my little solider?
Inter will probably reject our first offer
The thing will be is how fast we'll come up with the second and third bid to close the deal.
Frankly personally I don't want Murtough to give them 43m+8m that they're asking and try to negotiate down the price.
The thing will be is how fast we'll come up with the second and third bid to close the deal.
Frankly personally I don't want Murtough to give them 43m+8m that they're asking and try to negotiate down the price.
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I’d imagine it’s more so when the player wants the move but talks are stalling between clubs
I don't think he is actually that good of a goal keeper. Excellent with his feet, but can't say I have been overly impressed other than that
They basically want £43 million + Bonuses. I can see us going in with £40 + £5 which depending on the payment structure of that initial fee, I can see them taking it. If not, it is easy enough to add a couple million on.
Tonight a bid will definitely might be made
We aren’t paying €60m and Inter are not easy to deal with. This will drag on, I feel.
Here we go!!! "Onana Onana what's my name!"
Premier League isn't ready for this guy!!! Gary Neville and MNF trying to analysis
Premier League isn't ready for this guy!!! Gary Neville and MNF trying to analysis
Has there ever been a first bid that got accepted between a buyer and seller in player transfers? (not counting release clauses before someone brings that up)
Sounds like Ederson, that'll do.
Where you pulling 60 from? Most people are saying 50, and that's euros too, which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad for a top class keeper.
Haven’t seen a lot of him so are we happy with him as our number one?
Yes. Commanding in the area, great with his feet, now has experience. All in all he's a great choice for a modern keeper. He's not the next Neuer of course but it's a very positive signing that we badly need.
Oh na na!
No, it depends on who is involved. Some clubs use intermediaries almost systematically others don't. As an example a club like Dortmund will use a specific agent/lawyer named Marco Lichtsteiner, you are unlikely to talk directly with them, at some point Juventus had Raiola on their "payroll" as a consultant/intermediary, they would send him to talk to clubs and players or shop their own players. For a while I seem to remember that Pere Guardiola had a similar role for Barcelona.
As a kid I noticed this showkeeper/erratic/inconsistent trend not because of the media but because of what I saw on the pitch. It was also especially prevalent here in Asia, and I put it down largely to coaching standards.
Over time, the gap has narrowed and with the "Global South's" best players plying their trade in Europe from an ever younger age I do see higher standards in the modern game. I was very pleasantly surprised by Mendy's first season at Chelsea but he's unfortunately fallen off a cliff. I'm hoping Onana doesn't follow his trajectory because he caught my eye throughout the CL last season.
I wonder what the clubs talk about before a bid is submitted.
Small talk about the weather and where they have been, or going to on holiday?
Small talk about the weather and where they have been, or going to on holiday?
Typical modern keeper, great with the ball, he's not bad at the other aspects, he's just not great at them. In saying that, I'd say the same about Ederson at City.
One major issue with an African keeper, is when they are away for a month playing in the Cup of Nations.
Why would you agree a deal with a club before you know the player will want to come?
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