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2023-24 Performances

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city-puma said:
We are almost for sure to know now that Onana is a successful acquisition.
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Yeah it's funny that isn't it. It's almost like good players are just good from the moment they arrive, they just kick on and keep being good.

Then there's other players who need time to settle in, they're never played in their best position according to some, they don't get the service or they don't have 4 world class players around them to make them the player everyone thinks they can be.

Good players improve teams and answer questions, not cause more questions to be asked.
 
TsuWave said:
how does a serious team not make something happen from here:



wtf :wenger:
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Fast forward ten games or so and our midfielders know they can gamble on him making that pass and get in support of the winger.

That pass should result in at least a 5 v 3 or 4.

Liverpool and City have been doing this for years. The first 5 seconds after it leaves the keepers foot needs to see players flock in support. If no opportunity is created inside 20-30 seconds, the team resets.

Loads of their players talk about the goalkeeper long pass being an instant attacking trigger. We’re a few weeks away from even starting that.

With all that said, Garnacho and Rashford should have been able to work something out on talent alone from there.
 
crossy1686 said:
Yeah it's funny that isn't it. It's almost like good players are just good from the moment they arrive, they just kick on and keep being good.

Then there's other players who need time to settle in, they're never played in their best position according to some, they don't get the service or they don't have 4 world class players around them to make them the player everyone thinks they can be.

Good players improve teams and answer questions, not cause more questions to be asked.
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I do think not playing in their best position is a relevant point to make. It will be hard enough for some to change clubs and get used to a new team.

Needing a bunch of world class players around them to be good is tiring to read, though. I also like the, 'they're too intelligent' for their new teammates to succeed.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Fast forward ten games or so and our midfielders know they can gamble on him making that pass and get in support of the winger.

That pass should result in at least a 5 v 3 or 4.

Liverpool and City have been doing this for years. The first 5 seconds after it leaves the keepers foot needs to see players flock in support. If no opportunity is created inside 20-30 seconds, the team resets.

Loads of their players talk about the goalkeeper long pass being an instant attacking trigger. We’re a few weeks away from even starting that.

With all that said, Garnacho and Rashford should have been able to work something out on talent alone from there.
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But he's known for that, how can it take 5 to 10 games for them to see it?!
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Fast forward ten games or so and our midfielders know they can gamble on him making that pass and get in support of the winger.

That pass should result in at least a 5 v 3 or 4.

Liverpool and City have been doing this for years. The first 5 seconds after it leaves the keepers foot needs to see players flock in support. If no opportunity is created inside 20-30 seconds, the team resets.

Loads of their players talk about the goalkeeper long pass being an instant attacking trigger. We’re a few weeks away from even starting that.

With all that said, Garnacho and Rashford should have been able to work something out on talent alone from there.
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Garnacho should have chosen the easy pass to Rashford but it wouldn't have been an 'easy' chance. Instead he tried to force it into the middle past 2 Spurs covering defenders for a running Mount to tap in. That's on Garnacho tbh as Rashford was rightfully pissed off afterwards.

I said it in the match day thread but I honestly think those two don't like each other; they rarely pass amongst themselves unless it's the only option. It's happened loads of times last season that I thought it was just me noticing it. I think Rashford is more mature and will play the most logical pass to Garnacho more times than not though. I'm not saying Garnacho is deliberately not playing to him but on top of his shoddy decision making, it just looks bad overall.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Garnacho should have chosen the easy pass to Rashford but it wouldn't have been an 'easy' chance. Instead he tried to force it into the middle past 2 Spurs covering defenders for a running Mount to tap in. That's on Garnacho tbh as Rashford was rightfully pissed off afterwards.

I said it in the match day thread but I honestly think those two don't like each other; they rarely pass amongst themselves unless it's the only option. It's happened loads of times last season that I thought it was just me noticing it. I think Rashford is more mature and will play the most logical pass to Garnacho more times than not though. I'm not saying Garnacho is deliberately not playing to him but on top of his shoddy decision making, it just looks bad overall.
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Make your mind up. You just said they dislike each other and don't pass the ball to each other, but then said it's not deliberate?
 
Unfortunate to be on the losing side and witnessing the utter dross of our attack.
 
He's a class act.

Such a big personality on the pitch, his long range passing is something else. That pass to Garnacho was quality.

Another thing I like was him dropping the ball at his feet and just walking out with it, don't remember the last time we saw a keeper do that with confidence.
 
CloneMC16 said:
He talked about there being more than one half in football. We did well in the first half and created chances. Problem was that we didn't score. If we scored goals in the first half, it changes the game. Pretty much said we were wasteful and that cost us.

Found the quotes here:



He did also say that he looks at himself for the goals conceded. I like that mentality. Not always passing blame off to teammates.
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Thank you. He's been very good for us. I was thinking, since his introduction we will be bale to play better, but we don't have a midfield now. :mad:
 
crossy1686 said:
Yeah it's funny that isn't it. It's almost like good players are just good from the moment they arrive, they just kick on and keep being good.

Then there's other players who need time to settle in, they're never played in their best position according to some, they don't get the service or they don't have 4 world class players around them to make them the player everyone thinks they can be.

Good players improve teams and answer questions, not cause more questions to be asked.
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That is true though, some players start badly especially coming from another league and then turn out to be great playes. But even in those cases you do see flashes or their quality early on. Evra's debut was so bad he was subbed at half time.
 
Redlyn said:
That is true though, some players start badly especially coming from another league and then turn out to be great playes. But even in those cases you do see flashes or their quality early on.
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How does a player like Mount need to settle though? Sancho? The players that were good (Casemiro, Martinez, Onana) all showed from day one they could do it, once they got fit and used to the physicality. Took about 3 games.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Garnacho should have chosen the easy pass to Rashford but it wouldn't have been an 'easy' chance. Instead he tried to force it into the middle past 2 Spurs covering defenders for a running Mount to tap in. That's on Garnacho tbh as Rashford was rightfully pissed off afterwards.

I said it in the match day thread but I honestly think those two don't like each other; they rarely pass amongst themselves unless it's the only option. It's happened loads of times last season that I thought it was just me noticing it. I think Rashford is more mature and will play the most logical pass to Garnacho more times than not though. I'm not saying Garnacho is deliberately not playing to him but on top of his shoddy decision making, it just looks bad overall.
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Im not going to go down the route of talking player personalities. Out left; Rashford dwells on the ball when he has too much time to think. Garnacho is erratic. Sancho is… well, Sancho.

My original point remains, a player receiving the ball from that great a pass, needs at least two options. Harder to defend. Easier to exploit.

Suspect my suggestion of ‘10 games’ is probably optimistic. 20 games is probably more sensible. By then I think we’ll be far more efficient in transition.

Whether we still get cut to ribbons going the other way is another story that’s probably not resolved without further recruitment.
 
He’s the one player that actually gave me something to smile about. He was a true ray of hope today. He makes me believe when our front line start clicking, he is going to be so influential for us. Some of his passing was downright audacious. Brilliant player.
 
He had that one ‘butthole pucker’ pass through the middle that was almost intercepted, but it was the exact right pass to make at the time.

It’s remarkable how I already have no qualms when the ball is played through him in any capacity.
 
calodo2003 said:
He had that one ‘butthole pucker’ pass through the middle that was almost intercepted, but it was the exact right pass to make at the time.

It’s remarkable how I already have no qualms when the ball is played through him in any capacity.
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That was definitely a squeaky bum time pass!

I love his sheer confidence in receiving the ball. It’s like he enjoys it when the ball is given to him under pressure. He likes to goad the forwards. Then he’ll ping it to one of our players so nonchalantly like it was easy pickings. I’ve genuinely not seen a better keeper on the ball than him. Right or left foot, no problem.
 
The Mitcher said:
Make your mind up. You just said they dislike each other and don't pass the ball to each other, but then said it's not deliberate?
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I think it's subconscious but again I fully aware it's body language expert talk.

UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Im not going to go down the route of talking player personalities. Out left; Rashford dwells on the ball when he has too much time to think. Garnacho is erratic. Sancho is… well, Sancho.

My original point remains, a player receiving the ball from that great a pass, needs at least two options. Harder to defend. Easier to exploit.

Suspect my suggestion of ‘10 games’ is probably optimistic. 20 games is probably more sensible. By then I think we’ll be far more efficient in transition.

Whether we still get cut to ribbons going the other way is another story that’s probably not resolved without further recruitment.
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Ah I misread your post, I thought you was talking specifically about that incident of the tweet you quoted because that's what I was on about.
 
The Mitcher said:
Come on mate, admit you have no clue and are the only person saying this.
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I literally just admitted that though with the body language expert talk comment. I'm fully aware it's completely conjecture and a ridiculous assumption but it was just an off the cuff comment.

Regardless of what I think it is, the synergy between them two has never been great on the pitch. For some reason they don't gel or can interplay that well.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Regardless of what I think it is, the synergy between them two has never been great on the pitch. For some reason they don't gel or can interplay that well.
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I think it’s as simple as them both being left sided forwards and want to be in the same spaces. Both want to move inside.

They don’t work well together though.
 
He's a big positive at least. Love him already. From CL final to this shower though, he must wonder what he's walked into.
 
crossy1686 said:
Yeah it's funny that isn't it. It's almost like good players are just good from the moment they arrive, they just kick on and keep being good.

Then there's other players who need time to settle in, they're never played in their best position according to some, they don't get the service or they don't have 4 world class players around them to make them the player everyone thinks they can be.

Good players improve teams and answer questions, not cause more questions to be asked.
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It can go both ways. There's the obvious two examples of Vidic and particularly Evra who started slow (downright terrible for the latter) then became literally the best in the world in their positions. Casemiro last season struggled to get going for a month or so despite already being considered arguably the best in the world.

Then there are other players like Bruno and (hopefully it continues) Onana who bed in and look great instantly.
 
There was a pass he picked out to Bissaka early on that was pristine, through the press that any slight deviation and it was getting picked off but he just executed it to perfection. The one when he decided to be RB and pinged it to Garnacho was decent as well.
 
He played a pass to the left wing, only word to describe it was world class. Also he is a proper keeper with good fundamentals.
 
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