[kundalini]

Unorthodox keeper, quite often makes strange decisions, first step in the wrong direction making save so much more difficult, as happened with one of Walker's shots from outside the box. Got his hand to a corner then punched the follow-up cross when it could have been an easy catch. 4 saves, 2 of them were very easy. Blunder for Doku's goal.

Decision has been made now. Paid more than he's worth. Just hope he can cut down on the errors a bit.

 

[Ali Dia]

I thought he was really good the Doku goal aside. He’s been mostly excellent in the second half of the season but he’s always going to have his major critics now due to his poor start here. Hopefully with a settled back 4 he can keep the blunders to single digits next season.

 

[MadMike]

Getting down low is always a weakness for him. His shot-stopping overall is a bit erratic.

 

[lysglimt]

I thought he was really good the Doku goal aside. He’s been mostly excellent in the second half of the season but he’s always going to have his major critics now due to his poor start here. Hopefully with a settled back 4 he can keep the blunders to single digits next season.

It has nothing to do with his start - he is just a poor shot-stopper

 

[BorisManUtd]

Poor goal to concede after he was having a really good game with few big saves. I think it sums up his season and few questions remain about him. Deserves to stay our 1st GK next season but hopefully he improves more. 2nd part of the season he was very good no doubt.

 

[Lay]

Every shot against him makes me nervous. Not surprised he fumbled another low shot

 

[Pickle85]

Two very good saves, both from Walker. Very good and calm with his feet. Made some punches and hold on to a corner in the dying minutes of the game. His first season has been very up and down, but I'm willing to give him a year more before I make my judgement. He has something. And all this negativity has to stop

I don't remember the other one, but when you're quoting 'held on to a corner in the dying minutes' then you're reaching. Particularly when he made a terrible punch when he should have caught slightly earlier.

'All this negativity' will stop when he starts looking like a top four keeper, which he hasn't.

 

[Pickle85]

And adequate is also an enormous reach, he’s capable of brilliant saves and passes. If you want to be pedantic then 5 great actions, 4 adequate actions and 1 terrible action.

Your definition of great is obviously very, very generous. What were the five great things that he did?

 

[MetoTTT]

I thought he was really good the Doku goal aside. He’s been mostly excellent in the second half of the season but he’s always going to have his major critics now due to his poor start here. Hopefully with a settled back 4 he can keep the blunders to single digits next season.

Exacly what I was thinking. Promising second half of the season.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Your definition of great is obviously very, very generous. What were the five great things that he did?

I was speaking in general over the season rather than this specific game. Was meant as a criticism of him, but obviously I wasn't critical enough for you.

Two very good saves, both from Walker. Very good and calm with his feet. Made some punches and hold on to a corner in the dying minutes of the game. His first season has been very up and down, but I'm willing to give him a year more before I make my judgement. He has something. And all this negativity has to stop

I'll repeat what he said.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Poor goal to concede after he was having a really good game with few big saves. I think it sums up his season and few questions remain about him. Deserves to stay our 1st GK next season but hopefully he improves more. 2nd part of the season he was very good no doubt.

This sums him up well. I’d add though that the difference of ball playing he provides vs de Gea is part of the reason we won this year and isn’t last year. The critics will ignore that though!

 

[mu4c_20le]

I thought he was really good the Doku goal aside. He’s been mostly excellent in the second half of the season but he’s always going to have his major critics now due to his poor start here. Hopefully with a settled back 4 he can keep the blunders to single digits next season.

That save he made in the second half that eventually turned out to be offside, he let off a big rebound that fortunately McT was there to clear. It's something he'll need to be aware of next season, and our defenders as well.

 

[NotChatGPT]

Two very good saves, both from Walker. Very good and calm with his feet. Made some punches and hold on to a corner in the dying minutes of the game. His first season has been very up and down, but I'm willing to give him a year more before I make my judgement. He has something. And all this negativity has to stop

I thought he made the Walker saves more difficult than they had to be, which is mostly about awkward technique. There was pace on it, but it was hardly well placed out of reach for Onana, you expect goalkeepers to save those pretty much 10 out of 10 times. Same with Walkers second shot, where he parries it into pretty much the worst possible place to put it, which is hardly a one off for him.

He's a weird one. Does ever so well in some situations, only to look like a bit of an amateur a few minutes later.

 

[Pickle85]

I was speaking in general over the season rather than this specific game. Was meant as a criticism of him, but obviously I wasn't critical enough for you.



I'll repeat what he said.

Ok, so there weren't five great things then. Unless 'making some punches' and 'holding onto a corner' is great. He was decent today, aside from the huge mistake. But the huge mistake is a huge factor in how his performance should be viewed, given that it led directly to a goal.

 

[Pickle85]

I thought he made the Walker saves more difficult than they had to be, which is mostly about awkward technique. There was pace on it, but it was hardly well placed out of reach for Onana, you expect goalkeepers to save those pretty much 10 out of 10 times. Same with Walkers second shot, where he parries it into pretty much the worst possible place to put it, which is hardly a one off for him.

He's a weird one. Does ever so well in some situations, only to look like a bit of an amateur a few minutes later.

Exactly. He makes the routine look tricky (though I know that one walker save was a little more than routine) and when he makes a huge mistake it gets minimized. He's not our biggest issue but he will need to change if we're to compete for the PL.

 

[Marcelinho87]

I genuinely don’t think a truly top goalkeeper in all aspects exists - if you want a decent ball player they all seem to have a mistake in them.

Ortega seems to be deflecting any criticism today and his error was as bad.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Was superb and then made a bad one albeit he saw a huge amount of action 2nd half so an error became more and more likely. Not a true clanger like his Bayern one but a disappointing goal to concede. Kind of sums up this season.

 

[Bobski]

His main issue over the season have tended to be low shots, deals well with things above waist height but that low shot issue has been there even as his play has improved as the season has gone on.

Gets another season I think, improved enough to make it a non-priority to replace him. Should be identifying an option in case he does regress next year.

 

[NotChatGPT]

I genuinely don’t think a truly top goalkeeper in all aspects exists - if you want a decent ball player they all seem to have a mistake in them.

Ortega seems to be deflecting any criticism today and his error was as bad.

Ortega was a free transfer intended as a backup, not sure i see the comparison.

But yeah, very few goalkeepers will be solid in every aspect, but i still don't think that changes much in terms of Onanas rather awkward technique which seems to be causing him a fair bit of trouble.

 

[iammemphis]

Unbelievably poor goal for him to concede, and made the last 15 minutes so much more nervy than it needed to be, all because of his woeful concentration. He costs us Champions League progression in similar fashion this season. Hopefully we buy another keeper to challenge him and potentially overthrow him, because its borderline criminal that he doesn't have any threat to his place.

 

[NoPace]

Hands great, crosses handling great, passing good, moving his feet bad. That's our guy!

Might need a new keeping coach to work with him on the feet thing.

 

[Raven]

Really should have saved their goal, needs to get a stronger hand to it. He was pretty good other than that.

 

[BlakeUtd]

Am I the only one who thinks he is a big part of our struggles this season. I don't want to seem negative when we won. I'm happy he won a cup but I'm hoping we get a new goal keeper who can actually keep us in games rather than be a risk

 

[The Purley King]

Thought he made some good saves, but an awful goal to concede.
He claimed a couple of good crosses/corners but then inexplicably punched one to the edge of the area.
Generally you want a steadying influence in nets and I don’t think he’ll ever be that despite his undoubted skill with his feet.
Overall today I thought he did pretty well

 

[Matt Varnish]

Really should have saved their goal, needs to get a stronger hand to it. He was pretty good other than that.

Sort of glad ne made that gaff late in the game rather than at the start

 

[17Larsson]

He had a great game apart from that goal but that mistake is what top keepers shouldn't be making. And definitely shouldn't be making regularly. He's not good enough, it's as simple as that unfortunately

 

[Oranges038]

I genuinely don’t think a truly top goalkeeper in all aspects exists - if you want a decent ball player they all seem to have a mistake in them.

Ortega seems to be deflecting any criticism today and his error was as bad.

Allison and Neuer are the only 2 that come close.

Generally you will have to find a keeper that suits how you want to play and for the most part having a keeper who can play with his feet seems to come to with the obvious downside of shot stopping not being the best.

Onana has had an up and down season, hopefully next season he steps up his game and proves the positives outweigh the negatives more regularly and with less sloppy mistakes.

 

[Kirk lazarus]

Poor goal to concede , not just by him , the only option for doku should've been top right.
On the whole , the Guys a net positive ....I'll get my coat

 

[tomaldinho1]

Allison and Neuer are the only 2 that come close.

Generally you will have to find a keeper that suits how you want to play and for the most part having a keeper who can play with his feet seems to come to with the obvious downside of shot stopping not being the best.

Onana has had an up and down season, hopefully next season he steps up his game and proves the positives outweigh the negatives more regularly and with less sloppy mistakes.

And Neuer just made a mistake so much worse than that one which literally cost his team the final.

 

[Oranges038]

And Neuer just made a mistake so much worse than that one which literally cost his team the final.

Yep, that was bad, but all goalkeepers make mistakes, but as an all round keeper at his peak he was top notch in almost every aspect.

 

[Abraxas]

Annoying goalkeeper. Inconsistent within a match nevermind across a sequence of games. Yes he can ballplay but the regular clangers are frustrating. And costly.

Still, I don't think we can afford to be splurging on keepers so he'll get another go.

 

[sammyhol]

Great reactions with anything above waist height.

God awful when the ball comes along the floor… must be double figure clangers like that this season.

Such a fundamental part of goalkeeping, crazy he has got so deep into a professional career without developing that ability.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Needs to work on saving low shots.

 

[#07]

It's Barthez all over again with this fella.

 

[11101]

Kept us in the game, nearly cost us the game. He's got another season to iron out the mistakes and build on what he's good at.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

That save from Walker was sensational.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Onana doesn't look like a "natural" goalkeeper, but more like a defender who has been forced to put on the gloves (à la John O'Shea). He's athletic, and he doesn't wilt under pressure from attackers, but he doesn't have keeper's instincts for when to set his feet and when to dive, plus anything along the deck is gonna go in.

If he was 20 you could probably coach him into being better about his deficiencies, but he's 28, and this is his "prime". Remember DeGea needed a lot of coaching too. DeGea had godlike reflexes and used his feet hockey-style to make kick saves, and maybe that's something Onana can do, because when he moves to get down to block a shot it's like watching a tower of bricks slowly falling over. DeGea is only an inch taller but seems to have twice the wingspan, too.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Kept us in the game, nearly cost us the game. He's got another season to iron out the mistakes and build on what he's good at.

So he's more like the Fred of goalkeepers, then.

 

[Member 76197]

I swear I'm watching a different game to some Onana fans. He made two decent saves, both of which he still managed to display his ability to parry balls at the weirdest angles. The first Walker shot popped straight up in the air then out for a corner thankfully. The second I was just amazed he saved a low shot for once but then managed to direct it backwards right in to the danger zone, the opposite of the natural way you'd expect a ball to be parried in that case.

I'm coming on here reading he was great and kept us in the game (other than slapping one in the net). Nah that's not keeping us in the game for me, I think of some of Brad Friedal's performances against us over the years or whatever other keeper decided they were going to have their game of their life against United. Onana makes a couple of saves and we're being told he's brilliant despite dropping a clanger again.

It feels like some narrative has just been waiting for Onana that he got over that rocky start and has been great since. Nonsense for me, he had a brief period when he went a run of games that he didn't slap any in but it wasn't brilliant performances. Then we've been back to it feeling like every other match he's costing goals again.

 

[The United]

There's a reason Walker kept testing him with low shots from a distance. He did well saving them, at least from quite a distance. Players know to aim for the near post, which always makes me nervous. Despite that, I believe he's been a solid addition to the team and has helped calm our back line, which we lacked in previous seasons.