Lack of concentration.
Silly, mis-timed tackles.
Forgetting to track his man.
Sloppy passing.
Lack of pace.
etc.
Still, he's yong and lernin, eh?
Lack of concentration.
Silly, mis-timed tackles.
Forgetting to track his man.
Sloppy passing.
Lack of pace.
etc.
Still, he's yong and lernin, eh?
Are those major, or minor weaknesses?
The first three are one and the same really, and are to do with concentration but is completely related to his age.
Can't say pace is ever a problem for centre mids, Carrick and Scholes are hardly speed demons.
You've missed my point.
I'm sure the stats are accurate and reliable but the fact we have scored more and conceded less with Anderson in the team will be massively influenced by the fact he hasn't played in any of our really tough matches this season (i.e. the games where the team, as a whole, has scored the least and conceded the most goals)
The better stats, with him in the team, will be down to it being easier opposition, rather than one player having a profound effect on the outcome.
What I've seen of Anderson is a talented player who usually doesn't look out of place in a major side and evidently has the skills to threaten the opposition. I can't recall many incidents where he does someone that is more than just looking threatening. Flatters to deceive too much for me at this stage. He might be just about good enough to start for you, but if you settle for that, banking on him being a lot better down the line, it will weaken you in central midfield for a while (and with a bit of luck, he'll never realise his potential). Definitely not ready to take over from Scholes in my eyes.
You said he didn't have any "significant" weaknesses in his game. I would say the first four I listed are fairly significant, for a central midfielder.
But that wasn't the case last season, which is what the majority(possibly all, seeing as I heard that last season) of the stats are based on.
He has played, and excelled, in some tough matches for us.
Ah. Ok. I thought we were talking about stats from this season alone. My bad.
Impressive if true throughout last season.
And completely relative to age, by significant I meant things that he may struggled with in the long run.
Like Anderson's shooting. I don't think it's relevant to age I just think it's a weakness in his game.
I think Anderson's suffering a big lack of confidence in the shooting department.
Anderson has showed a couple of times this season that he's in fact able to hit the target with a considerable amount of power and accuracy, it's just that when he mishits it, he really, really mishits it.
He wouldn't be taking some of our freekicks if he hadn't showed some kind of ability in the shooting department during training.
I don't know if he'll ever be a goalscoring midfielder, but I'm not willing to rule it out just yet.
Shooting is very much a confidence thing - just look at Fabregas this season compared to the last.
He wouldn't be taking some of our freekicks if he hadn't showed some kind of ability in the shooting department during training.
I don't know if he'll ever be a goalscoring midfielder, but I'm not willing to rule it out just yet.
Shooting is very much a confidence thing - just look at Fabregas this season compared to the last.
Absolutely. I don't believe for one minute that Anderson has some sort of fundamental flaw in his game, when it comes to shooting. I've always been confident that his first goal will open up the flood-gates. The fact he remains so willing to tale a crack - despite poor results to date - confirms to me that he's probably scoring for fun in training.
Disagree. I don't think any of the flaws in Anderso's game are any more or less likely to improve with age than those of Lucas.
also the fact that there were some fairly senior figures who let him take a free kick a while ago.
i can't wait for him to score, though. i'm dying to see how he celebrates.
Statistics are like mini-skirts, they may give you great ideas but they can hide the most important parts.
Statistics are like lampposts, you can use them for illumination, or you can use it like a drunk, hanging on to them for support
Those are good ones M'n'MAnderson looks like he's going to be one of the best in the world whereas lucE looks born to be a squad player.
I hope I'm there when Anderson scores his first goal.
This might sound mad but I wouldn't bet against a small pitch invasion if it's at an away game.
This might sound mad but I wouldn't bet against a small pitch invasion if it's at an away game.
It's not really close anymore, is it?
Anderson's miles ahead of Lucas, and has made the absence of Paul Scholes (of all people!) manageable. He's an amazingly talented player; the new Essien written all over him.
He's still playing within himself in spite of some his performances this year. I think he's only ever really let himself loose once, and that was when we literally demolished Arsenal. Anderson could probably do with realising that he's stronger and faster than 99% of all the players he's come up against.
Anderson's miles ahead of Lucas, and has made the absence of Paul Scholes (of all people!) manageable. He's an amazingly talented player; the new Essien written all over him.
He's still playing within himself in spite of some his performances this year. I think he's only ever really let himself loose once, and that was when we literally demolished Arsenal. Anderson could probably do with realising that he's stronger and faster than 99% of all the players he's come up against.
Andersons level of ability for his age is very, very impressive. He is going to have a great career.
Aye, hasn't been outmuscled by anyone. Needs to realise this and go on some more of those 50 yard runs - I fecking love it when he does that
Mini-skirts are like lampposts, don't put your tounge up one when it's cold.
Stats I like:
- Team with most goals pr 90 mins.
- Team with most points pr 38 games.
Stats are like facts, when you don't like them, you go all religious and try to explain them away with some transcentdentalist hogwash.
Aye, hasn't been outmuscled by anyone. Needs to realise this and go on some more of those 50 yard runs - I fecking love it when he does that
Those runs against Villa, Arsenal and Chelsea had me giggling like a little school girl.
I was laughing in a more hysterical and manic manner when I saw him outmuscle Drogba. There was something fantastic about seeing someone of that stature being physically beaten by a 19 year old.
Seconded. Lucas was one of those countless overhyped liverpool footballers.
The reasoning behind Lucas being a great player according to Scousers was that he was Brazillian Under 20 Captain and they thought no Brazillian captain could be a bad player
Anderson is a far better player than Lucas but we shouldn't forget Anfield is a bit of a graveyard for young prosperous talent.
The reasoning behind Lucas being a great player according to Scousers was that he was Brazillian Under 20 Captain and they thought no Brazillian captain could be a bad player
Anderson is a far better player than Lucas but we shouldn't forget Anfield is a bit of a graveyard for young prosperous talent.
I still remember the wankfest at the start of the 2006-07 season about the young players they've signed and how gerro will win the league.
No need to leave anymore, we dont have to sell
The boys have grown up together just like your boys in the 90s did.
Johnson will play for England as will Hart, Onuha and Sturridge, Miller will be in the squad, Richards is already nailed on for a future England captain.
Ireland when he grows up will Irelands new Giles
Evans will be Wales new Ian Rush.
And our under 18s is unbeatable
Bless.
I actually think Lucas is a good player and will continue to improve for them.
Dont forget one was 7M the other 2 and a half that.
You tend to get what you pay for.
Would you rather Lucas + £7m, or Anderson? I'd take the latter everytime with the benefit of hindsight. Obviously, there is still time for Lucas to improve, but at this moment in time, there really isn't much of a comparison to be made between the two.
The mistake you're making there is actually engaging with Scholesy in a discussion about up-and-coming young footballers.
This is a bloke who genuinely believes that a number of footballers skills will never improve, once they're past the age of 16 years old. He's a hard-core mentalist.
Crikey, that's a bit Houllier-ish, actually. A point could be made about ability, not skill.
It's gob-smacking stuff when he really gets going. But slightly unsettling, at the same time. It's kind of like what Nietzsche says about staring into into the void (the void, in this instance, being located squarely between Scholesy's ears).
The reasoning behind Lucas being a great player according to Scousers was that he was Brazillian Under 20 Captain and they thought no Brazillian captain could be a bad player
Actually he was player of the year in Brazil and looking at the list of winners, it doesn't really have any bad players.
I knew this fecking thread was gonna haunt us. Lucas has been excellent this last month or so. Liverpool didn't miss Alonso at all today, which says it all really.
True. I think it's hard to say one is better than the other right now.
Lucas is a brazil international. He's going to look ok against the likes of Newcastle. He passes the ball well so he looks great when the rest of the team are playing well. I have yet to see him drag his team forward when they are not in good form. Anderson is potentially that kind of player and that's why we paid so much for him. His strength and skill means he can make forward runs through defences in a way Lucas can't.
I'd play him every game if I had the choice.