Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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Wow.
After that shambles I bet he'll never come near us again.
"The player sat at home waiting for his medical. The lawyers sat in a bar waiting for United to do the money transfer."
have to laugh
have to laughWas Herrera seen at the LFP ? And Herrera had to deposit the full amount himself anyway, not only the tax. So if the deal had went through, most likely United would have met with the player at the La Liga headquarter, given him a cheque over those 36m and then watched him making the deposit. At least that's what happened with Martinez last season.
I feel really sorry for the lad, he wanted to basically pay €6m from his own pocket to make this transfer happen and we seem to have just ignored him. As I said, I hope he will get his big move to another big European club next Summer and is an instant success there.
I'm pretty sure we're never signing him after this. Not to mention his release clause will go up by €6m next year and we'll try to haggle over the price again even if we want him.
I'm pretty sure we're never signing him after this. Not to mention his release clause will go up by €6m next year and we'll try to haggle over the price again even if we want him.
Sickening.
I'm pretty sure Martinez had to be at the Liga HQ personally last season.
Mind boggles when you think that we only approached him 4 days before the window closed, fully aware how long Martinez's transfer to Bayern took only last year. Rather than spending majority of Summer chasing a player who never wanted to come here we could have got this sorted at the beginning of August.
No chance of him coming in January, is there? He's going to think we are a right set of tight bastards. He offers to help assist the move financially, and we still fanny about. It already looked like he'd begun to be frozen out of the side.
Bilbao are very unforgiving from past experiences. They froze Llorente out of the side, and did the same with Amorebieta who's now joined Fulham, I believe? If Herrera has asked to leave, even unofficially behind closed doors, I think that the case may be that once you're out, you're out. It will be awful if that's the case, and it is United's fault for taking the piss. Hopefully he wants to come in January, if we actually go for him and pay what is required!
I'm just speculating of course. He might be forgiven and continue as normal, but it hasn't happened with others who have wanted to leave.
Bilbao are very unforgiving from past experiences. They froze Llorente out of the side, and did the same with Amorebieta who's now joined Fulham, I believe? If Herrera has asked to leave, even unofficially behind closed doors, I think that the case may be that once you're out, you're out. It will be awful if that's the case, and it is United's fault for taking the piss. Hopefully he wants to come in January, if we actually go for him and pay what is required!
I'm just speculating of course. He might be forgiven and continue as normal, but it hasn't happened with others who have wanted to leave.
This could be played as a comical show.
If this is true, then I have no words. We were a near impeccably run club till the time Fergie and Gill were here, and right now we are a comedy circus to the whole world. No idea who initiated the transfer, but someone does needs to own up to this.
Wow. Thats worse than I thought last night. So we sent reps to pay it, but then bottled it and decided to claim the reps weren't sent by us?
There are so many things mind boggling things this transfer window, that my mind has lost track of what to get boggled by. And of the the incidents, this one with Herrera/Bilbao has got to be the most disgraceful.
And if you think about it, we probably made Fellaini's life a lot harder than it should over the past couple of months. Fair play to him for the professionalism he showed at this end. Can't say the same for ourselves.
And if you think about it, we probably made Fellaini's life a lot harder than it should over the past couple of months. Fair play to him for the professionalism he showed at this end. Can't say the same for ourselves.
I doubt if Herrera will have anything to do with United if the story from AS above is true.
We really have treated him disgracefully. Especially if the story about him willing to take a paycut is true. Also we totally unsettled him and he has to face his team mates after he admitted he wants out. We have left him high and dry.
We basically were using him as plan B if Fellaini didnt hand in his transfer request.
I really fecking hope this wasn't the case.
If we're partly responsible for something like this happening to Herrera, I'd be sick.
Nope, as I said we'll probably try to offer €20m for him in January on the basis of him not being in the first team for the. and there's no way in hell Athletic are selling him for anything less than his clause. He might still want to join us at that point but we won't sign him.
I reckon his first team career at Athletic might be over too. They don't feck around with disloyal players.
Weren't authorized from the beginning or from that moment on ?
Imagine we still send the three fecking amigos again.
It's normal for the player, the player's lawyers and the club's representatives to be present at Liga HQ. So I admit I was surprised when "we?" showed up without him. However in Spanish law a power of attorney can be signed at a notary's to be used if the person can't be present. It does raise some complications if any bit of the paperwork needs to be amended late, but normally "due diligence" by the other party (like a phone call) is considered enough to make the power of attorney work.
The only almost acceptable version of this story that I can imagine is that the person who told Herrera and the lawyers yesterday afternoon that the deal was on and await a medical wasn't authorised to say it. Another over eager go-between perhaps. However, as I say, I await United's version.
The only almost acceptable version of this story that I can imagine is that the person who told Herrera and the lawyers yesterday afternoon that the deal was on and await a medical wasn't authorised to say it. Another over eager go-between perhaps. However, as I say, I await United's version.
Yep, that's the only logical thing which makes sense. There's literally no other explanation which doesn't end any other way than - Woodward needs to be fired.
I take it you mean the Glazers' highly edited, spun version of events?
A properly run club just doesnt get themselves into this sort of farcical situation on the last day of the window.
Whilst I doubt it is Moyes fault, I do get the feeling none of this shit would ever happen would Fergie be here. And if it did, you'd bet it'd be more than getting sorted out today.
I hope the club do something today to sort the issue out.
I hope the club do something today to sort the issue out.
We have a lot of explaining to do.
Fergie would go fecking mental if anyone did this to him.
The only way we could embaress ourselves more this summer is announcing Michael Le Vell as director of youth team development.
Shambles. I think a Board of Inquiry is called for. We can't afford a repeat of this fiasco.
I'm really keen on reading our "excuses" when they're released. As posters have mentioned, Athletic doesn't mess around with players asking to leave. I really hope his career doesn't suffer because of this fiasco.
People thinking we'll get an explanation from the club.
They'll give it the old 'we don't comment on rumour and speculation' if asked, and they'll then use the fact Moyes doesn't have to face a camera for over 10 days to wait for the anger to blow over.
They'll give it the old 'we don't comment on rumour and speculation' if asked, and they'll then use the fact Moyes doesn't have to face a camera for over 10 days to wait for the anger to blow over.
Explain what? United valued player at amount X. Bilbao wanted Y. United walked away.
That's the only explanation there will ever be.
Communication with fans? United? No way.
Might be all there'll be, but if you think that's enough in comparison to what's been going on then good for you.
But what about poor Ander sat at home with his dreams slowly melting away?..
I bet this has happened hundreds of times with hundreds of clubs. Shit happens. It's a shame but people being physically sick and disgraced at the club doing something like this is a bit much. It's shit and all and I feel for Herrera but such is life. If he can make it back into the squad then it will be no harm done. If not... Well - that's a shame. We deny deny deny and we move in. Not really much more United can do.
Seriously, must be absolutely crushing for the lad. Not sure if they'll pick him to play on a regular basis now, and if they do, not sure if he can screw his head back on straight to play well.
have to feel sorry for the lad
shocking mismanagement if true. Furthermore if that is true, then its clear that Woodward is out of his depth
shocking mismanagement if true. Furthermore if that is true, then its clear that Woodward is out of his depth
I love that the same people building this player up into the new Iniesta are also viewing him as a bit of a sadcase! A poor little boy wondering why United won't return his calls!
If this player had any problem at all with the business of football then he wouldn't be mentally strong enough for Old Trafford.
Can we still sort this between now and Jan, so that the deal is sorted and he can sign Jan 1st?
It would be hilarious if we did nothing again and tried to sort it at the very end of the Jan window.
It would be hilarious if we did nothing again and tried to sort it at the very end of the Jan window.
There's no way he'd sign for us now.
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