Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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I assume that is why Bayern paid above Thiago's clause? I never paid any attention to that at the time.
Yes, I think this only happens if Athletic really want the cash. It's possible they will go for it. But then no time for them to get a new player in.
Because we have had a retarded summer in the market.
Yep. I think we should have tried this a lot earlier. Martinez's transfer lasted for a couple of weeks IIRC.
Am I right in thinking Martinez paid his buyout clause but Bayern didn't pay any tax? Athletic didn't make it easy for them and it took weeks, but it still went through. Surely the precedent has now been set and we can just do the same on Monday?
Transfers only move quickly if all parties are compliant, Herrera won't force his way out and Atleti don't have to sell. Don't think this will happen.
Our transfer dealings this summer have been absolutely pitiful. David Moyes needed to make his mark on the team and with almost 48 hours left for whatever reason he hasn't.
Yup, that's usually how it works.
We've left it way too late to do what looks to be a deal that's a bit complicated. Another nail in a dreadfully idiotic summer.
Sharing prossies? Team bonding.
Not left it way too late on purpose, you don't bid four days before the transfer window closes. Panic buy.
The key word there is precedent. Like any sensible company though we'll have to get tax and contract lawyers to certify that the deal is done correctly and indemnities are in place against any change of attitude by the tax authorities.
It is just a matter of words but lawyers and tax offices aren't always the speediest people to deal with and because the implications of a mistake run into the tens of millions we would have to see the i's dotted and the t's crossed.
So, as I said earlier, unless we've already done the groundwork, actually using the release clause in the legal sense on Monday would be near impossible. Hopefully we have done the groundwork though and it's just a matter of entering the names, dates and numbers into the appropriate boxes.
Because lawyers like to make things easy.
To be fair, they're just quoting the Mirror this time. Though I'm not sure that makes it more or less reliable.
I'm not sure if all-round compliance is necessarily what's required.
As long as Athletic aren't cnuts about it, they could still handle the transfer professionally, despite not being pleased.
They paid the clause + inflation since the contract was signed. The same as Real Madrid did on Illarramendi when they sprung his clause in the official way.
Actual release clause deals are incredibly rare which is why using them isn't easy - there's no standard paperwork.
I think if he has any real ambition he will make this move. He is a very talented young player, no other big clubs are currently in for him. As we have heard all summer, it is 'World Cup year', and a move to United and CL football will put him in with a chance. He's not an international now, but he isn't far off the next in line.
Surely he can't go the rest of his career playing mid-table football.
Too many are discounting the allure of playing for your local club in Basque country
I don't think anyone's going around saying this is done - more pessimism amongst United fans than anything...
Generally players from Athletic dont go to other Spanish clubs, in fact it used to be that very few ever left at all - that does seem to be changing but more likely they will move abroad
Also worth noting that Bilbao never really need the money as there is a very small amount of players they can ever spend it on
Quite honestly, Herrera looks a decent player but if he's going to cost £30m I would much rather we keep the money and let Cleverley, Anderson, Powell, Jones, maybe even Kagawa and Valencia have at it in central midfield. De Rossi would be good but that isn't going to happen. We might get Fellaini who to me is far from a perfect signing but would definitely improve us and would get some goals.
Also, while some might dress it up, the club definitely did feck up in not trusting/investing enough in Pogba early enough. While he wasn't doing great in the ressies, and his agent was a tw*t, he clearly had a lot of talent and we should have given him some more games and a bigger offer. Once you have one of the biggest talents in the world in the position you most need one, you don't let him go that easily.
Also, while some might dress it up, the club definitely did feck up in not trusting/investing enough in Pogba early enough. While he wasn't doing great in the ressies, and his agent was a tw*t, he clearly had a lot of talent and we should have given him some more games and a bigger offer. Once you have one of the biggest talents in the world in the position you most need one, you don't let him go that easily.
The allure of playing for Manchester United shouldn't be underestimated either.
Really? Too many? Is that the feeling you get looking around this place? Can't say I agree at all. In fact, no one has even mentioned it being easy luring him away from Bilbao. When I look around this place all I see is people given up on us signing anyone at this point (expect iSparky and his crusade on bringing Ronaldo back
).Another thing is I believe Herrera and Rio are personal friends in some sort of capacity. I remember seeing them tweeting each other about a year ago, mentioning how they had a good time hanging out in Spain or something. I specifically remember Rio saying he was an excellent player too, or something like that.
Doubt this information is particularly useful but I thought I'd share it anyway.
Doubt this information is particularly useful but I thought I'd share it anyway.
The allure of playing for Man United, becoming a household name globally and trebling your wages shouldn't be underestimated either.
Can we just hold our hands up at being too indecisive, throw caution to the wind and send several Woodward clones in helicopters across Europe with briefcases full of cash?
Hanging out together is a pretty exaggerated way to describe what happened. Christ.
Bilbao paper El Correo says he has said yes to us.
The price for 'Yes' is probably around that 36 millions.
It feels that it's all up to United, right now as Bilbao didn't state he's not for sale..
It feels that it's all up to United, right now as Bilbao didn't state he's not for sale..
The paper in question:
http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/201...herrera-united-queda-espera-201308312043.html
http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/201...herrera-united-queda-espera-201308312043.html
'or something' ... Whatever it was, they were together in their private time, and seemingly not accidentally. They also felt it appropriate to tweet about it.
Besides, I can't remember the tweets properly, but you seem to so perhaps you should share.
They were having their drug urine tests at the same time, so "hanging out together" is probably the most apt description you could come up with.
I don't think anyone has done that - the pessimism in this thread and post-Thiago threads has come from the lack of transfer activity going on. This has easily been our most disappointing (summer) transfer window in years. I am, however, encouraged by the fact we've been linked with Fellaini, De Rossi, and Herrera. I'd love it if we could get Herrera, who is easily one of the best midfielders outside Barcelona and Real Madrid. For a player of his age, his positional sense is impressive, plus he's very good technically. Still, I don't think we'll sign him, but I'm more than certain that we'll sign a midfielder before the window shuts.
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