It's not that massive, they can get players from Zaragoza(like Herrera), Osasuna, they have a few youths ready for the next step, Benat could have a bigger role, and apparently are looking at Atletico's Raul Garcia.
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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Clearly Woodward's fault that Bilbao are like this. It's just the way Bilbao are.
How can you blame Woodward for them rejecting a generous offer?
Oh and how can they reject a bid if it matches his release clause?
Oh and how can they reject a bid if it matches his release clause?
Ed fecking Woodward
Isn't this what happened with Martinez, they rejected the bid so it meant Bayern had to go through the league and pay the tax?
Is it possible that they're just trying to say they made everything they can to keep him before we enforce the clause ?
Too good to be true. We're not allowed to sign quality central midfielders.
Is it possibility that this is old bid and we already moved forward to pay the buyout clause to Spanish league.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
F*** off Bilbao let him leave.
F*** off Bilbao let him leave.
We are freaking incapable of doing our transfer business quick, quite or just normal.
I hope he returns the favour and just buys out his contact in that case
Wait, so is all this shit about Carrington fake? Surely he wouldn't be able to come here without Bilbao's permission?
I just checked. The Bilbao website is owned by Manchester United F.C. You are correct.
It's like a curse we can only sign quality in the other areas of the pitch.
We always do things the hard way...
It's that Tax-thing I believe.
It was obviously worth a shot to try and get out of paying the tax. I would have been amazed if we didn't try to offer them a some of cash to escape the tax. Not worried at all by this, and there is noway he would be in Manchester if this weren't going through. Actually, maybe he isn't in Manchester at all. 
so is he now crying in carrington preparing for his flight back?
No. It's just Bilbao. Either trying to imply they're doing everything to keep him. Making us pay tax and forcing us to activate his release cause. Or stalling to get more money on 1st July.
Im still confident this is going to happen. We cant afford it not to. There had to be a few twists and turns along the way but we'll get there in the end.
This isnt even our fault, its them...they hold their players hostage...hope he is very upset and just buys himself out, we will sort him out for it
He's coming. Don't worry.
It was obviously worth a shot to try and get out of paying the tax. I would have been amazed if we didn't try to offer them a some of cash to escape the tax. Not worried at all by this, and there is noway he would be in Manchester if this weren't going through. Actually, maybe he isn't in Manchester at all.
That's been obvious for a while now. Twatter is a disease, I wish it'd just be banned for this forum.
From what i understand of the Spanish buy out system is that Athletic can accept the bid and just take the money from us.
How ever as they've rejected, Us/Herrera have to pay the money to the league and a huge amount of tax.
How ever as they've rejected, Us/Herrera have to pay the money to the league and a huge amount of tax.
We can't back out of this now even if this takes us past July 1st.
Surely just a technicality? Assume United initially tried to do the deal as a normal transfer to avoid the associated complications and taxes involved in going the buyout clause route. Athletic reject the offer so United are forced to go the other route. Given that Herrera is widely reported to have already travelled to Manchester it surely must be just a case of crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
He is in the last year of his contract as well. No way will he sign a new one with them after he has had a tour of Carrington, and we won't be going in for him when his release clause goes to 40 million. They are basically valuing one season more of Ander Herrera at 36 million Euros, and he isn't worth half that much to them.
I'm not worried, United are surely suitably prepared for this situation after last summer.
Just surprising they didn't automatically deal through the lawyers that dealt with Martinez and Bayern.
Just surprising they didn't automatically deal through the lawyers that dealt with Martinez and Bayern.
Get that cnut Woodward out
How much tax we talking about here?
Actually, it seems like they rejected our offer earlier, so we are now going down the release clause route and that is why there were issues with the paperwork yesterday.
But yes on the point about stalling till 1 July, it does seem like there is every incentive for them to try to do that, not sure how much we can do about that either.
We have to get him, no matter what the cos, he cant suffer this again
What the hell is wrong with this club.. They've pulled these stunts in almost every transfer dealing.
http://www.espnfc.com/story/1145813/javi-martinez-to-bayern-munich-in-richest-bundesliga-transfer
Just let the poor guy go. Two failed transfers in consecutive summers will crush him.
http://www.espnfc.com/story/1145813/javi-martinez-to-bayern-munich-in-richest-bundesliga-transfer
Just let the poor guy go. Two failed transfers in consecutive summers will crush him.
I cannot believe ourselves. Rejected on a release clause.
I'm confident we'll get him. It's now just a case of *how*.
This says more about Bilbao than Woodward.
We should give up on any future dealings with Bilbao.
If the difference is €4 Million then why is it such a big deal to avoid it. If were willing to pay €36 Million but baulk at €40 Million? That just seems completely daft
They don't want to sell their best players? What crazy feckers....
Buying from Bilbao isn't 'normal'. Until two days ago nobody knew a bat about this. Get a grip and let the club do its work.
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