Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!

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How many talented box-to-box players are there in the league? Ramsey and Fernandinho? I think he will play to that sort of level.
 
Which source has revealed he is at Carrington? I had a glance back the way, but all I can see is pages of predicted formations and people talking about their genitals.
Mine are balls deep in a paella right now. Which was a bad idea in hindsight because now I've got nothing to eat for dinner.
 
How many talented box-to-box players are there in the league? Ramsey and Fernandinho? I think he will play to that sort of level.
Fernandinho isn't exactly a box to box. That's Toure.
 
Would be unlike Mourinho to sign a player on reputation without doing his due diligence. I think Fabregas will do well at Chelsea. Still, very happy with our new player too.
I'm still interested to see how he fits him in. Is everyone expecting him to play in a midfield two with Matic?
 
Fernandinho isn't exactly a box to box. That's Toure.
Toure is more jog to jog than box to box. I haven't seen him play as a true midfield industrial forced for a few years.
 
Fernandinho isn't exactly a box to box. That's Toure.
All my City friends tell me that Fernandinho does the box to box work and Toure is invisible for 75+ mins a game.
They hate how Toure can be missing all game then run up the pitch and score when he wants.
 
I want a young Xabi Alonso. Is he anything like a young Xabi Alonso?

Nothing like a young Xabi Alonso. He's more like an Iniesta but nowhere near the same ability to keep possession but on the plus side, he's more explosive and has more tricks, solid defensively too.

He will bring the following attributes to our midfield:
- keep the ball better than anyone we have seen in a long time (but still not your typical precise spanish midfielder.. he's prepared to give it away in search of a more dangerous pass and not as good as scholes in terms of ball retention)
- Very high levels of creativity (get prepared to see killer through balls from weird angles)
- very high level of dribbling/carrying the ball (he has that iniesta style, but he has step overs to go with it)
- Lots of energy in terms of pressing
- prepared to shoot off either foot

He has alot to learn still, and he's not the most precise of midfielders but this is countered by the fact he's one of the more exciting midfield talents you can find - really will be entertaining to watch, he is no tiki taka... he's very direct and plays with heart.
 
All my City friends tell me that Fernandinho does the box to box work and Toure is invisible for 75+ mins a game.
They hate how Toure can be missing all game then run up the pitch and score when he wants.
Fernandinho does the majority of the defensive work Toure is pretty overrated in that department.

But Toure would support the attacking players.
 
Table cloth guy must have done great job this time around since there's no photos. :( White tablecloth guy killing muppet dreams since 2014.
no need as tablecloth guy is only trotted out at the bridgewater.
We really need drones flying over carrington.
 
How come??

Woodie has paid the asking price.
Woodward did an excellent job with this one, like Mata the deal was only leaked when we were as close to certain as possible before the media even got a sniff. Regarding the asking price, buying a player is a seller's market if he's of a certain quality. The seller will always be able to dictate terms more so if he doesn't want to sell.

He may not have the vision of Fabregas but what he lacks in that department he gives back with his work rate which is very important in the role van Gaal is most likely looking at slotting him in.
 
He's probably not going to outperform Fabregas next season, but he'll have a good go at it and will only improve. He's a top talent, make no mistake about that.

Well, from the bits I've seen of him I wouldn't say he was near as naturally talented as someone like Thiago, for example.

Still, natural talent only counts for so much. There have been plenty of talented players who failed because they didn't have the right personality/mentality.

The thing that excites me most about Herrera is that I've seen a fair few people talk about his attitude, aggression, leadership qualities and tendency to step up in big games. A technically accomplished midfielder with those sort of attributes will be very popular here, I think.

Agree with Ekeke though, we definitely need at least one more cm. Herrera on his own will improve us but nowhere near enough. Still, that would be true of pretty much any cm we signed.
 
Nothing like a young Xabi Alonso. He's more like an Iniesta but nowhere near the same ability to keep possession but on the plus side, he's more explosive and has more tricks, solid defensively too.

He will bring the following attributes to our midfield:
- keep the ball better than anyone we have seen in a long time (but still not your typical precise spanish midfielder.. he's prepared to give it away in search of a more dangerous pass and not as good as scholes in terms of ball retention)
- Very high levels of creativity (get prepared to see killer through balls from weird angles)
- very high level of dribbling/carrying the ball (he has that iniesta style, but he has step overs to go with it)
- Lots of energy in terms of pressing
- prepared to shoot off either foot

He has alot to learn still, and he's not the most precise of midfielders but this is countered by the fact he's one of the more exciting midfield talents you can find - really will be entertaining to watch, he is no tiki taka... he's very direct and plays with heart.
Appreciate this. Cheers.

Don't suppose you could knock up a system/formation that you'd like to see him in?
 
With all the 'finally we are signing a midfielder' comments in here you have to feel for Fellaini.
 
I'd love to see that too. Imagine he'd play in a 4-3-3 alongside another creative player, with a defensive anchor behind(like Strootman).

Strootman isn't a defensive anchor, he's pretty similar to Herrera would be if he (Herrera) was played deeper as he's played behind the striker this season.

If you wanted an anchor it'd be something like

De Jong/Carvalho
Strootman - Herrera
as opposed to

Strootman
Herrera - Signing​
 
Strootman isn't a defensive anchor, he's pretty similar to Herrera would be if he (Herrera) was played deeper as he's played behind the striker this season.

If you wanted an anchor it'd be something like

De Jong/Carvalho
Strootman - Herrera
as opposed to

Strootman
Herrera - Signing​
I see you have a lot of faith in our current options...
 
Gotta admit, I'm not super-excited by Herrera.
Seems average at best.
Never set the match alight any time I've seen him play (La Liga or UCL).
Most damning of all for me though, he wasn't even selected in the Spanish 30-man list for the World Cup, says a lot IMO.
Hmmm....hopefully one of many midfielders.
 
Appreciate this. Cheers.

Don't suppose you could knock up a system/formation that you'd like to see him in?

Against weaker teams..

He could easily play in a 2 man midfield in English football if we're at home against a weaker side, but away from home in Europe he'd be best in a three man midfield. He's more like a Di Maria type of mid. If we surround him with wingers and forwards with pace and finishing ability, I can see him racking up assists and making use of extra space he is afforded.

DDG
Rafael CB Evans Shaw
DM
Herrera Mata
Sanchez RVP Depay​
 
Strootman isn't a defensive anchor, he's pretty similar to Herrera would be if he (Herrera) was played deeper as he's played behind the striker this season.

If you wanted an anchor it'd be something like

De Jong/Carvalho
Strootman - Herrera
as opposed to

Strootman
Herrera - Signing​
I'd be happy if we just used Jones or Carrick if ever we were in need of an anchor.
 
10 months too late, but it looks like the deal is basically done.

Welcome to United, Herrera.
 
With all the 'finally we are signing a midfielder' comments in here you have to feel for Fellaini.

Why? Had he been good enough there would not be such a massive sense of relief. I didn't set out to be disappointed by Fellaini, it happened because he proved not to be up for it. In Herrera we've finally gone for a player who fits the bill. You can't blame people for being happy about it.
 
Gotta admit, I'm not super-excited by Herrera.
Seems average at best.
Never set the match alight any time I've seen him play (La Liga or UCL).
Most damning of all for me though, he wasn't even selected in the Spanish 30-man list for the World Cup, says a lot IMO.
Hmmm....hopefully one of many midfielders.

Was it really damning - not to be part of that squad? he won't be damaged by the experience.

Furthermore he wouldn't have fitted into that squad as it was, he loses the ball too much for a spanish midfielder.. doesn't make him lesser than some of the players in that squad, just doesn't fit into their style.
 
I figure we'll have a 4-3-3 for tougher games and a 4-2-3-1 for ones where we're trying to break teams down. Something like this:


------------RVP-------
Januzaj/Nani------Mata
----Herrera---CM-----
---------Carrick-------
LB----CB-----CB----RB

in tougher games, and against weaker sides, this:

-------------------RVP-------
Januzaj/Nani-Kagawa/Rooney-Mata
-------------Herrera---CM---------
-LB----------CB--------CB---------RB
 
Gotta admit, I'm not super-excited by Herrera.
Seems average at best.
Never set the match alight any time I've seen him play (La Liga or UCL).
Most damning of all for me though, he wasn't even selected in the Spanish 30-man list for the World Cup, says a lot IMO.
Hmmm....hopefully one of many midfielders.

When was the last time Bilbao were in the Champions League? :confused:
 
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