Pretty much this. Can't believe people are complaining about getting a quality, young midfielder.
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Pretty much this. Can't believe people are complaining about getting a quality, young midfielder.
Busquets and Yaya aren't destroyers are they, and Yaya played in defence a lot for Barca didn't he.
I know he isn't that type of player, its just look what happened when everyone cried out for aggression and combativeness!
Surely only a matter of time?
Yep, his energy is also a big plus. He's a master at pressing and hassling to pinch the ball back.
You have to look at the big picture though. Now we have Mata we have no need for a Fabregas type; we just need to get two technically competent, tenacious players behind him.
Herrera might not be the biggest name around but he fits the system we're likely to implement more than Fabregas would have.
Finally! Thought after January came and went that he'd gone off our radar permanently, but looks like Van Gaal resurrected it. A midfielder of all things! And a quality one too. Deary me.
Ah man, Herrera's a great wee player. He'll be wicked for us i feel. Have you not checked out his youtubes?
I doubt he'll be the only CM coming in too. My guess is atleast another 2. Ideally, i'd love another 3 or 4 CM's to be honest. I dont have any faith in what we have at the moment & its a squad game now, and our CM squad is absolute pish - i dont see that changin much with Van Gaal coaching them. A shit is still a shit no matter how much how try to polish it!
Bastian?
That's who I'm hoping for. Schweinsteiger has been my dream midfield signing for years now. Imagine him playing the deep-lying role beside Herrera? would be brilliant.
I agree with you, I'm just wondering how is it possible that people moan about this signing.
Yeah but we did need aggression though. Doesn't mean you have to be a dirty bastard or an angry nutter. Fabregas has a bit of aggression about him, as does Koke for example. Herrera has it too.
It's as much about that in-built desire to win the small battles. We're far too passive at times
Aggressiveness doesn't mean killing your opponent, it means hassling them, being able to put them under pressure and commit mistakes. We lack that as a team.
Delighted with the signing. Also really pleased with the way it's been done, without weeks of endless speculation. Makes me think we will get 4-5 in during this window. Maybe they're even agreed already. A good day for us.
Technically we can sign an injured player, but the inssurance company can refuse to cover it which can be a non goer.
They also have Xavi and Iniesta - as well as Messi infront. You don't necessarily need a ball winner when you have 75% of the ball and two of the best midfielders of all time in there. Most sides don't have that luxury.
Arsenal tried to be Barca-lite and get rolled over by the better sides regularly - surprising Wenger doesn't like a bit if steel in there when Petit and Vieira provided a very successful spell.
That said - Barca had Yaya Toure in there for a while and the Busquets who while being very neat and tidy, sits in front of the back 4.
Nothing wrong with having a player in there to strike a bit of fear into the opposition. Keane was a great player but a big strength was his snapping at players heels - it puts them off and let's them know they won't get an easy ride. The right defensive player with a bit if bite can break up play and give attacking players a platform.
As I understand a proper CM, good in passing but can get a job done in defense too.
Mata and Sneijder aren't similar players. They have different strengths and weaknesses despite playing in a similar position i.e range of passing, movement of the ball and with the ball, Mata is mostly looking for linking up with his strikers, Sneijder is a hold the ball up, pick the runs type player. They've a different style of play.
Sneijder also comes very deep at times to track his man which we haven't seen from Mata.
Defending isn't about fear and chopping up people ankles.
I agree with you, I'm just wondering how is it possible that people moan about this signing.
I really have no idea. Van Gaal is a 'system' manager the same way Fergie was. No need for the massive, glamour names just get the right players in the right roles and improve as a collective.
Herrera will become an important cog without being a highlight reel player. I'm happy with that personally.
And Ander as an individual possesses that, which is great. van Gaal will look to impose it, no doubt.
I'd be surprised if a club would not be able to get insurance for a player who is injured - if a doctor can confirm that the players rehab is going well and that a full recovery is expected.
At the later stages of a recovery scans and examinations would show any issues - if there is no complications it's fair for the club to conclude he's going to be ok.
It's never certain a player will fully recover - without waiting for a year or longer you're always taking a risk anyway.
Of course, look what he's doing with Netherlands, except for RVP, Sneijder and Robben others are either still very young or just average but they're playing great. Imagine what he could do with us during the whole season. If a manager is good he will make a good player even better and in a good organised team he could be prove to be a great signing. Exactly as you said, Fergie didnt need big names, neither does LVG.
Where did you read that ?
His pressing and tactical discipline he has shown by playing in different midfield positions over the last few seasons is something I feel Van Gaal would've been extremely impressed by.
Kroos and Koke are two players the CAF would've been jizzing over had we signed them but in my opinion Ander has a superior all-round game compared to both.
If people really are moaning about the transfer, they should just go and support another team. These types of people will never be happy.
Surely Carvalho would have been better value at 28 million? I haven't seen much of Herrera but the general consensus in Spain seems to be that we're grossly overpaying for the player.
Agree Irish.
I'd have taken Herrera over Fabregas. Different players anyway & can Fabregas even play that CM role now - has he the legs for it, like he had at Arsenal where he was box-box? We surely were lookin at him for box-box CM reasons were we not?!
Feckin hate that prick for the whoring he did with us last summer anyway. Herrera never played for Arsenal or Barca either - two clubs i hate, amongst a healthy list i might add..
I'm delighted we're signing him. There's shitloads of players that have gone under the radar because of low profiles, but moved to big clubs & have turned out to be world-class. This transfer could another one of those occasions..
If we got Carvalho I bet general consensus in Portugal would be we're grossy overpaying for him..
It's clear that Carvalho was a Moyes target. As @iBoss said, why can't any of you people ever be pleased? Always something to complain about.
Absolutely delighted with this signing. Really hope its a sign of things to come, and the club prove my doubts wrong
It depends on the injury and the inssurance criteria, they can ask much more money to issure the player.
Doubt it. He is very highly rated in Portugal and seems to be one of the biggest emerging midfield talents in europe.
Touted by who? He's not even on the fringes of the squad, never mind mainstay.
How do you come to the conclusion that Carvalho, who's had 1 season in a second rate league(albeit an outstanding season), would be better value at £37m (as Sporting wouldn't sell for less than release), than Herrera who's one of the best midfielders in La Liga outside the top 2 and will come for £10m cheaper?
I dunno, I rate Koke higher and he's done it at a much higher level. For £28m, this will be an excellent buy. By the sounds of it the lad is going to embrace the club, everything about English football and from what I've seen he's as tough as old boots and loves a tackle. He sounds just the character we need.
Carvalho has been quoted at 35 million IIRC.
Carvalho would cost more, he is purely DM, probably we are overpaying for Herrera but remember it's Bilbao. We will overpay for every player this summer (I don't care to be honest).
My point is, people always complain, we buy one player, why didnt we buy another...
Not about the league they play in but the talent and qualities the player possess. Besides Carvalho pretty much bossed the USA game the minute he got on the pitch on his first world cup game. He clearly isn't fazed by the big occasion. From what i've been told Herrera will provide plenty of energy and urgency in midfield and i would be estatic if we can sign a top midfielder along with Herrera but if he is as big as we go in the midfield department it would be very disappointing.
Didn't he play as a No.10 for Bilbao last season?
So a player who has been good 1 season in Liga Sagres, worth more than a player who has been good 3 season in Liga BBVA ?
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