It's being reported as 50k a week. What was he on at Bilbao? Table scraps?
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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If we get him signed, he can go on the tour. That's good.It's not quite "before the world cup". More "before the world cup finishes"
Good enough for me!
Fecking sweet. Gonna start a new FM save with this lad in the team. Boosting his stats first of course.
Be interesting to see if LVG wants another CM to partner him or if he'll stick with Carrick then maybe look to Strootman when he's back from injury.
I would be ecstatic if we signed both Strootman and Herrera. Those two would make one awesome midfield. Oh God, my muppet juices are flowing. When is Strootman set to recover from his injury?
Wouldn't surprise me. Moyes also pulled the plug on the Alcantara deal
And Garay said he was United-bound and Moyes blocked the transfer at the last minute.Apparently he returns to light training in August. Would that be enough to pass a medical? haha
Think he'll surely buy 1 more central midfielder this summer and Strootman will be able to start training in September which means he will only be back to full fitness earliest by December so I can't see him as this season's target, maybe next summer when we will be needing a bigger squad to conquer Europe.
My guess is that's after tax which puts it closer to 100k a week which is about par for the course I'd say.
He definitely played pretty deep at Old Trafford. I remember him picking up the ball as the deepest midfielder and moving things forward time and time again. And he played that ball to De Marcos, who lobbed it wide.
Around the second half of the second half he moved further forward though, setting up a few chances and a goal.
Around the second half of the second half he moved further forward though, setting up a few chances and a goal.
The players Moyes had been lookin at were top-class, and if quite a few of them were signed - there was that big question mark of whether Moyes could maintain their quality / improve their quality, or would he depreciate their quality due to shit training sessions & match tactics, as we seen last season?!
As regards to Herrera being a "Moyes signing", i tend to disagree. The club knew all about Ander since he & his team pissed all over us in the Europa League a few seasons ago, so he was on our radar - same as probably all the other players Moyes looked at.
In my opinion, Herrera will be a club signing & the same as Shaw if they sign.. Van Gaal is very happy to go along with it & no-so to some of the other suggestions we made!
Can't fecking wait to see him at United
I won't say that I follow Herrera week in week out but his signing indicates that he will play box to box in a midfield 3, picking up the ball from deep and bombing forward. A midfield of Herrera, Mata and a more defensive player sitting in front of the back 4 would turn our midfield from bad to one of the best. He's too well rounded to play him in a specialized role.
So he has zero international caps and has never been called up. I know it's Spain but still what is the reason for it if he actually as good as some people are describing him as?
If he buys another midfielder, well then you have to fear for Cleverly, Fletcher and Carrick.
It has to be this way though, I'm fecking sick of that midfield now and if they perform as they did last season under Van Gaal, they'll be out the door.
Why would they quote after tax?
if you know it's Spain, well then why are you asking the reason for it? even Mata and Fabregas struggle to get games in their team.
Being awareness of players around is just a basic of midfield. I don't find it special. Everything what you just said is exactly what Cleverley did in his good performance against city in community shield. I don't rate being better in dribbling is being a better centre midfielder. I rather have Scholes in midfield than Iniesta.
And to think this deal was only revived because Woodwood plugged in the Transfer Fax Machine and it re-sent the last bid in its memory on start-up.
I guess. But then, it depends on the system van Gaal chooses. If he plays a three man midfield then we shouldn't have a problem rotating them.
De Gea only has 1, should we swap him for Reina?
The fact he has 0 caps doesn't say anything about him considering the midfield Spain have had for however long.
Agree with that!
Although, if we somehow managed to scrape into the Champions League - Moyes would most likely still be in the job & we wouldnt have the prospect of Van Gaal coming to us now.
A worthy sacrifice????
It's not such a bad thing TBF. Fernandinho didn't have a cap for Brazil before signing for City and was lights out last season.
A lot of Ander's zero caps has to do with him playing at a relatively smaller club (compared to Barcelona or Madrid), the usual seniority politics (De Bosque's reluctance to move Xavi, Alonso on) and the fact that he's a much more direct player rather than a possession pedant they've based their ethos around. His situation is much like De Gea up until recently who only got his chance as a circumstance of Valdes' injury. With the summer clearout in the Spain NT, Ander has a good chance to be one of the fresher faces with the likes of Koke, Thiago, De Gea. He was part of the generation that won the U-21 Euro with Mata, Thiago, Martinez etc.
In fairness some reporters (Ballague, Hunter) have already alluded to that.
Koke and Mata barely made the spanish World Cup team, it doesn't mean all.
It's taken from the Spanish press (€3m / year) they quote net of tax. The British press normally quote gross.
I wonder if van Gaal will be just satisfied with Herrera + our current crop of midfielders or would he still want to try and grab Vidal or Schweinsteiger. Obviously hoping for the latter.
"Ander Herrera on Monday called President Athletic, Josu Urrutia, to personally convey his decision to leave Manchester United."
Fecking hell, already? Sack Woody, sell van Gaal.
Im not sure if there is a clear favorite yet...
Which is what I told you should happen all along. He should have a look at what deals we have in the pipeline and decide if he wants us to continue pursuing them, and put an end to those he didn't.
It always made sense to do it that way.
Because he had the best midfield in the world ahead of him.
I don't think you can judge players on international appearances. Do you mean to say De Gea sucks even though he is only a year younger than Herrera and hasnt got enough international appearances. They both have world class players playing ahead of them albeit they are on their last legs.
Fair enough guys. I probably knew that but just wondering for some reason.
Just read the Skysports article there, they claim it's done and will be announced tomorrow most likely. They also claim Shaw is next on the list which we already assumed anyway.
Mark Ogden says in the Telegraph today that Herrera is the first of FOUR new signings. Shaw is one other, with that deal set to be wrapped up soon, with Hummels a CB priority and another midfielder set to come in. Apparently a defensive midfielder has been made the priority now.
This is all great news. Wonder who they are looking at. Wouldn't surprise me to see Schweinsteiger come in. Him as a number 6, Ander as the 8 and Mata as the 10 in a midfield 3.
I would be surprised if we bought a forward (incl. wingers) this summer. I think we'll only play 3 forwards including wide positions and Rooney, RVP, Welbeck, Januzaj, Valencia, Wilson and maybe one of Lingard or Zaha will compete for those spots. Nani, Fellaini and Young to be sold.
Telegraph article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ra-to-sign-for-Manchester-United-for-29m.html
This is all great news. Wonder who they are looking at. Wouldn't surprise me to see Schweinsteiger come in. Him as a number 6, Ander as the 8 and Mata as the 10 in a midfield 3.
I would be surprised if we bought a forward (incl. wingers) this summer. I think we'll only play 3 forwards including wide positions and Rooney, RVP, Welbeck, Januzaj, Valencia, Wilson and maybe one of Lingard or Zaha will compete for those spots. Nani, Fellaini and Young to be sold.
Telegraph article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ra-to-sign-for-Manchester-United-for-29m.html
I think that if we sign an another midfielder it will be someone who is more a defensive midfielder. Van Gaal is all abou the balance and I doubt that Herrera + Schweinsteiger/Kroos would be good enough defensively. Herrera and Vidal might work but I don't think that Vidal is available and if he is, I can imagine Madrid and co being very interested for him.
That Ogden article gets me excited. Finally some wheels are in motion and they seem to be the right ones.
It's not a midfield 3 if it includes Mata.
The truth is somewhere in the middle. We aren't buying a world-class player and thinking that will just be negative for every party involved, but of course he has seen harsh competition for the role. Plenty of midfielders has had the chance to play at least one appearance though, it is customary to bring in most talents to see how they will fit in the team and give them a chance to show themselves in worthless friendlies etc.
So it shows that Herrera is a good player, but he is considered to be at a lower level by Del Bosque than Iturraspe, Isco, Suarez and Garcia. One can argue whether these call-ups are fair and reflects quality or not - but it doesn't matter as it is quite clear that Herrera is a step(Some may argue two.) below world-class.
He is 25 very soon as well so it isn't like he has the future ahead of him either, we shouldn't expect too much from him. He will strengthen our first eleven and that is enough for now, hopefully he can build on the abilities he has and settle well with the other teammates which may get that extra Kagawa-at-Dortmund level out of him.
I'm not sure if Shaw is good enough in attacking sense to play the wingback role in 5-2-1-2 formation.
Van Gaal is playing 3 at the back because of limitations with his Netherlands squad. His preferred system is 4-2-3-1.
With Van Person on top I don't know what will happen with Rooney.
Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Fabregas, Silva, Thiago, Martinez, Koke, Alonso, Mata, Cazorla.
I suspect he'll be in the Euros squad though in he does well for United. Think he's been on the verge of the Spain squad for a couple of years. Xavi and Alonso have probably both played their last major tournament. Silva is 28, Cazorla 29. Room will be opening up and he is among the best of the next generation.
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