Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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He seems tactically flexible as well which is a great thing generally but even more so under someone like Van Gaal. It's obviously useful having someone that can play multiple roles in midfield.
He's tenacious, combative and energetic yet he's also good on the ball and likes to move the ball forward. Sounds like a perfect fit really.
He's tenacious, combative and energetic yet he's also good on the ball and likes to move the ball forward. Sounds like a perfect fit really.
Even so, 25 is no age really for a centre mid these days. You can still have a good 7 or 8 years at the top of the game from there and a few more as a solid veteran player. Spanish national team selection shouldn't really count for much when you see how DDG and Koke etc were ignored in favour of past it players like Alonso and Casillas at this WC. I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive shake up of the Spain national team and for Herrera to have a reasonable part to play in the next generation of that squad.
------------DDG
----------Smalling
Rafael-----Evans-----Shaw
-------Herrera Rooney
---Kagawa Mata Januzai
------------RVP
Attack, attack, attack!
----------Smalling
Rafael-----Evans-----Shaw
-------Herrera Rooney
---Kagawa Mata Januzai
------------RVP
Attack, attack, attack!
Good to hear. His career seemed to stall a bit after the 11/12 season he struggled with injuries as well I think.
A quote from him saying that's he's staying and one from us stating we were never in for him. That's just what i imagine from recent years of Utd transfers hahaha.
In all seriousness though, hope he signs. Could be great having him learning under LVG, nowhere near the finished article.
Don't want to suckerpunch Moyes. But it wouldn't be apt to think he deserves credit TBF. We had been scouting Ander and Thiago close to 2 years before David's arrival. If anything we should be a bit mad because the manager self-admittedly valued him at a price below the buyout clause and (reportedly delayed the transfer sanction on the bass of inextensive scouting reports/ lack of prior knowledge of the player) thus delaying the deal by 10 months. Anyway what's done is done. No use beating a dead horse. Important thing is we have our man Ander now.
Hopefully he turns out to be another Carrick type signing. Someone who was a bit under the radar and said to be overpriced but turned into a gem.
I think Carrick joined when he was 25 too.
I think Carrick joined when he was 25 too.
Good to see you read when I told you he played 4 games in central midfield.
Wait, are you saying he's not a central midfielder?
I don't know? I'm not allowed to go back and check every time I might have been wrong. You'd scald me again
De Gea
Smalling Jones Evans
Rafael Carrick Herrera Shaw
Mata
Rooney van Persie
Jones would be very happy pushing into midfield from defense when needed.
Smalling Jones Evans
Rafael Carrick Herrera Shaw
Mata
Rooney van Persie
Jones would be very happy pushing into midfield from defense when needed.
I was saying that he's played central midfield for 1 season. Its been brought to my attention that he's played more as a central midfielder than behind the striker, as pogue and others have pointed out. Therefore I was clearly wrong
As a first eleven it would be good but we don't have the squad depth to switch to that full time. We only have three centre-backs in the squad at the minute like.
It certainly looks pretty. Would probably be ideal for the big games, and I feel Rafael and Shaw would provide good width going forward, particularly Shaw, he's great going forward.
Looking extremely unlikely. We already have enough quality in the central midfield area with Herrera and one of the CM's from this year. Shaw is also not an offensively thriving full-back we would have a different target who suited the wing-back role if this was the plan.
I don't think our team will be considered too poor to play a 4-2-3-1 which is what LVG wants to.
Out of those, who would suit us?
Cazorla would be 3rd or 4th choice for AM. Michu er, no chance. Javi Garcia? Really?! Itturaspe? Too specialized for what we need alone, unlikely to get both off Bilbao. Suarez? Maybe as well as Herrera, like Itturaspe.
Let's see wrt Rakitic, what he goes for, but I believe he declared a wish to stay in Spain.
I can't see us relocating to Granada, even if the regional TV station's name fits nicely.
Imagine if Bilbao made us think we were signing Herrera but the player who boarded the plane turns out to be an impostor 
You'd need 3 backup CD to play like that. Can't see it happening.
Are you sure he doesn't thrive offensively? When I've seen him he's been great going forward, I've always thought that was his best asset as a full back. Maybe I'm mistaken. Either way, he'd have years to improve that part of his game if what you say is true.
Not impossible but It's gonna be quite a challenge for Herrera to match Carrick's level of usefulness. He pretty much took Keano's role in his first season and turned next three years into one big trophy fest for United. Of course he got Scholes with him then in the midfield but tactically he was bossing consistently and that's what we need.
Cazorla played in a midfield 3 for Arsenal as would Herrera play for us. He regularly gets an outing for Spain replacing a midfielder
To be honest you are not totally wrong the CMs in Bielsa setup were almost playing as CAM, most of the time.
Let's put it this way, Rodriquez which will go for a similar amount is racking up an unbelievable amount of assists(9) this season being the top assister in his team. He also has more successful dribbles per game than Januzaj(Only Nani has more than him). On top of that he scored 5 goals as well and basically the options that are discussed most are Shaw VS Rodriquez. Rooney got 10 assists last year as a second striker/AM and he was the only player in our team who got more assists than Rodriquez.
Januzaj, RVP and Valencia combined had exactly as much assists as Rodriquez alone.
The offensive brilliance of Rodriquez who is also defensively stable and at a much higher level overall as he is 22, or the defensive brilliance of Shaw with an alright offense but with the arguably higher potential.
Bit about Herrera here.
If anything it's his attacking play that needs to improve. He's much more solid at the back than going forward, Rafael is easily better in that aspect.
I agree, but I was wrong not because of suggesting that he's played a lot in that kind of area but because I said it was wrong to call him a CM. And I was wrong about Bilbao's lineups against us. To be honest I looked at it and saw Martinez and Iturasspe's names and didnt look much further, just assuming they were in their midfield roles when Martinez was not.
Imagine if Bilbao made us think we were signing Herrera but the player who boarded the plane turns out to be an impostor
I'd almost forgotten about that 'imposter' stuff. Last summer's transfer window really was a total shambles.
Thank God we look like rectifying that by getting Herrera in quick this time.
Unsure if this has been posted:
http://vozpopuli.com/deportes/45383...d-y-los-ingleses-ofrecieron-pagar-40-millones
http://vozpopuli.com/deportes/45383...d-y-los-ingleses-ofrecieron-pagar-40-millones
Fair enough. I was just basing that opinion on the few games I saw him in, in which he was pretty good going forward, and looked a good dribbler too.
Yeah, wouldn't be suited to most league games but would be interesting to see against teams at the top.
As always I'd like to see more 433, but we don't have anyone dangerous enough in the wide forward spots. Januzaj is a great up and coming player, but he may be a season or two away from being able to influence the game at the top level from out wide.
You have to put in Nani or Valencia with him, or imagine we're signing an upgrade there as well.
It's not quite "before the world cup". More "before the world cup finishes"
Good enough for me!
We've been heavily linked with Vermaelen and Miranda, we may be able to bring in the depth to make it happen.
They'd play different roles in it, though.
Truly crazy, if as Herrera's agent suspects (and has been widely reported), Moyes pulled out of a move for Herrera to get Fellaini. I read quotes from Moyes' column on Fellaini over the weekend in the Sunday Times on twitter: He called Fellaini technically gifted and said he grew as an influence at United during the last month of the season. I genuinely couldn't believe it.
Been at work all day so just seen this. Is this happening?
Seems likely that it will, most sources(even credible ones) are reporting that it is happening right now.
Cheers and yeah just seen the title. Get in!
Despite any last minute feck ups, yes it's most definitely happening.
Yep on his way to Manchester to sign the contract.
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