Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!

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For those laughing at EasyJet, I met Eidur Gudjohnsen on an Easyjet flight when he was coming back from Barcelona once.
 
You obviously know a lot more about Herrera than me, but Gundogan and Modric both started as no.10s and got moved to the deeper role because of their hard work and willingness to track back - similar to Herrera. From the sounds of it, and looking at Herrera's tackling and interception stats, it seems that moving to a deeper role could benefit him.

Actually, he is a CM who has been replaced in #10, and if Ekeke is right it was because of his disciplinaries problems, he can be a bit reckless.
 
Who'd be a good midfield partner for him? Obviously realistic names would help.
 
Welp, its a lie.

His main position last season was 26 starts behind the striker in the hole. 4 in central midfield, 1 on the right

Are we buying another Anderson and force him into midfield :(. I hope LvG knows what he is doing.
 
For those laughing at EasyJet, I met Eidur Gudjohnsen on an Easyjet flight when he was coming back from Barcelona once.

Stop trying to show off. I met Neil Buchanan from Art Attack at Sea World once, but you don't hear me going on about it.
 
Actually, he is a CM who has been replaced in #10, and if Ekeke is right it was because of his disciplinaries problems, he can be a bit reckless.

Well partly because of his discipline. 10 yellows and 2 reds reads like a Check Tiote total. Get this, last season Tiote was 10 yellows without the 2 reds...

But Bilbao also had a new manager and played a new system. Going to 4-2-3-1 from their 4-3-3 the previous system worked for them
 
Who'd be a good midfield partner for him? Obviously realistic names would help.

For some reason i think Cleverley will really improve his game this season. Just be nice to have legs in the team. Players looking to pass and move.
 
Welp, its a lie.

His main position last season was 26 starts behind the striker in the hole. 4 in central midfield, 1 on the right

Its not a lie. Valverde made the tactical switch last season. He's just as adept as a central midfielder as he is in the attacking midfield role. Arguably better since he has the height and appetite for a tackle that work better in the heart of midfield.
 
Well partly because of his discipline. 10 yellows and 2 reds reads like a Check Tiote total. Get this, last season Tiote was 10 yellows without the 2 reds...

But Bilbao also had a new manager and played a new system. Going to 4-2-3-1 from their 4-3-3 the previous system worked for them

Take into account that there're plenty of soft fouls and diving around in La Liga and refereeing in Premier League is completly different.
 
Who'd be a good midfield partner for him? Obviously realistic names would help.
Not going to pretend I'm an expert on him but from what I've seen and heard, he's very energetic and loves to get forward so someone who sits deeper and is more disciplined like Carrick or possibly a Carvalho. He could play with Strootman I'm sure but both are more box-to-box players so either one would have to sacrifice this tendency slightly (completely plausible) or they could play in a three with a holding player.
 
For those laughing at EasyJet, I met Eidur Gudjohnsen on an Easyjet flight when he was coming back from Barcelona once.
Now you mention it my friend was sat next to Dani Alves on a BA flight.
 
Are we buying another Anderson and force him into midfield :(. I hope LvG knows what he is doing.

He's at least played there a lot more than Anderson who was alien to the position, just saying he's mainly had his best time as another number 10 which we have loads of.

In fact it seemed like we wouldnt be in for him again after we went for Mata. I remember Bilbao fans celebrating that saying at least we'll leave him alone now and they'd know best right?

Unlike Mata, Cazorla, Fabregas and countless other Spanish attacking midfielders Hererra does have more of an ethic to go and put his foot in with tackles. Not always the cleanest, hence his discipline issue the season before last. But he tries none the less.
 
Not going to pretend I'm an expert on him but from what I've seen and heard, he's very energetic and loves to get forward so someone who sits deeper and is more disciplined like Carrick or possibly a Carvalho.
I'd probably prefer a natural ball winner who can pass Carrick relies more on anticipation and reading the game.
 
Well partly because of his discipline. 10 yellows and 2 reds reads like a Check Tiote total. Get this, last season Tiote was 10 yellows without the 2 reds...

But Bilbao also had a new manager and played a new system. Going to 4-2-3-1 from their 4-3-3 the previous system worked for them

You can judge a central midfielder by more than their disciplinary record you know, especially a young one.

By all accounts he was very accomplished in that role for Bilbao and has played deeper for a much longer part of his career than he has been asked to play #10. All of which means it's a position he is well capable of playing, so don't really understand why you keep bringing up "disciplinery" (sic) issues as a reason he can't do it for us. Especially in a league reknowned for referees who are much more lenient than the Spanish when it comes to the physical side of the game.
 
We "replaced" ronaldo with valencia and tevez with owen.You are downplaying tevez's importance for the team. In his first season, he was great and gave us a much needed boost in his second season when he was playing for a transfer. There was a reason half of old trafford was singing for SAF to "sign em up".

That summer also gave rise to the word value and we started taking more and more punts while the quality of our first team slowly got worse and worse. Who did we beat in that UCL run? I cant remember a single good team and we got our asses handed to us in the final. Scholes and Giggs in 11/12 werent playing a major part or shouldnt have and our dependence on them really showed how far we had fallen.
Valencia was one of the best wingers on Europe for those two and a half season. He was our best player on 2011-2012 and one of our best players on 2009-2010. On 2010-2011 he was injured for more than half of the season but after his injury he immediately became one of our most important players displacing the player of the season, Nani. We couldn't find a player as good as Ronaldo, but Valencia was a great player and I doubt that at that time we could have done better.

We didn't replace Tevez with Owen, we added Owen just for the numbers. We already had t good strikers, one of them regarded back then as the best/one of the best strikers in the world and the other was our highest transfer ever. Tevez was already a bench-warmer and scored only 5 goals in the league. That summer wasn't that bad.

The problem was later when it became clear that Hargreaves wasn't ever going to be fit and Anderson wasn't ever going to become better than shit but we still hoped that a miracle will happen and didn't sing someone to replace Scholes. And then we signed Young to replace Giggs and signed Smalling and Jones to replace Ferdinand and Vidic. While it is too early to talk for the last two, it is clear that the other replacements didn't go as good as we expected. Only De Gea was a great replacement.
 
For some reason i think Cleverley will really improve his game this season. Just be nice to have legs in the team. Players looking to pass and move.

If anything, the competition will do Cleverly good, as he's not had an awful lot since he broke into the squad. Either way, he has to show what he's made of this season, it's make or break for real now IMO.
 
Haha this is getting too serious now but to argue the point, Herrera is hardly recognizable to the general public yet and could easily sneak on a EasyJet flight, I doubt its rammed from Bilbao.
 
Well partly because of his discipline. 10 yellows and 2 reds reads like a Check Tiote total. Get this, last season Tiote was 10 yellows without the 2 reds...

But Bilbao also had a new manager and played a new system. Going to 4-2-3-1 from their 4-3-3 the previous system worked for them
Well, Spanish refs give cards for everything. I know that by Spanish standards he isn't disciplinced enough and tries a lot of tackles (some of them obviously are fouls) but I don't thinkt hat it will be problem on England when the referees allow tougher challenges. Anyway he is still young so Van Gaal can teach him the discipline.
 
Its not a lie. Valverde made the tactical switch last season. He's just as adept as a central midfielder as he is in the attacking midfield role. Arguably better since he has the height and appetite for a tackle that work better in the heart of midfield.

It is a lie, he went to Bilbao as a player in the hole. He played a single season in a midfield 3 and then went back into the hole last season.

He was also my pick of the Spanish under 21 side in 2011
 
Oh ok. Bit of a risk really then, isn't it, especially if we don't get a out and out defensive midfielder?

The disciplinary problem ? No in the prem he won't have any problem, in term of mentality, he seems perfect for that league, i think.
 
You can judge a central midfielder by more than their disciplinary record you know, especially a young one.

By all accounts he was very accomplished in that role for Bilbao and has played deeper for a much longer part of his career than he has been asked to play #10. All of which means it's a position he is well capable of playing, so don't really understand why you keep bringing up "disciplinery" (sic) issues as a reason he can't do it for us.

No he hasn't. He's played in a midfield 3 for a single season. In that single season he had 10 bookings and 2 red cards.

Moved back into the hole he didnt have a problem with getting booked all the time. Just the 7 yellows...
 
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