From what I've seen he's not really like Alonso, who's more aggressive and generally more defensive. Alonso's passing range is on a different level as well. Comparing him to a player, I'd probably say he's kind of similar to Ramsey, but more Spanish in his style obviously. Never noticed him to have a great shot on him or anything though, more of a creative midfielder who is also a box to box player.
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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Saw some journalist compare him to Xabi Alonso in terms of personality alright but I think they're a bit different in playing style. By "similar personality" I think they basically meant both are leaders and both can be a little bit cnutish (in a good way).
He'll immediately become our best midfielder. Probably.
He isn't that good. The top clubs don't want him as he still needs to make a step up to play for a top 10 team in the world. Yet Athletic don't want to let him go for anything but top tier money. Fabregas will probably end up cheaper than Herrera, with that said I think he is what we can realistically target for that offensive/creative CM role.
Hopefully this means we go for a pure DM, which are less attractive on the market right now, bar Bayern and Barcelona there aren't many top teams who use them and neither of those top teams went for the more physical ones. Even Gustavo who is world-class went for peanuts as it isn't too popular with a pure DM in a 4-2-3-1. He is doing great for Brazil as well and he would make our team balanced, and world-class for not much at all.
Not saying he is the best/only target for that role.
---Gustavo---Herrera---
Januzaj--Mata---Rooney
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He's top of the crosses and hitting the woodwork league isn't he?
I've never seen Herrera play more than twice. I'm only going off the video and what I saw, he played some great balls that led to crosses being put in and goals being scored but his stats aren't impressive if you look at his goals and assists. So I guess someone somewhere thinks he can do more in a different system or we're signing him to play in the wingers?
I've got no idea to be fair.
Trying very hard not to get excited before something concrete, you know like him holding the shirt at Carrington being chummy with Woodward and stuff like that.
And that's coming from a poster who has fallen out with most of the Caf in his time. Sort it out, goldensplash.
Couldn't ask for a better second chance to make it right!
Our midfield hasn't had to be "deliberately" shit for a while now, it comes to them naturally.
Yeah, I thought it was a bit odd that we weren't being linked with more DMs earlier in the summer but if we're keeping our cards closer to our chest then I guess that could explain it. Wonder what other DM options are around that we might be looking at?
The Caf loves me, though.
Be pretty hysterical if LVG basically does exceptionally using the payers and systems that were essentially scouted for Moyes.....though I have my doubts Ander was a Moyes player, just put on a plate for him out of desperation. The guy barely knew how to use Mata....also put on a plate for him out of desperation.
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With Herrera coming, that's the end of at least one of Cleverley, Fletcher or Carrick. One of Gustavo/Schweinsteiger/Khedira could come too with Strootman in January.
Central midfielders never have great stats because getting goals and assists isn't their job. They'll get the odd goal and assist or get 10+ if they take set pieces but that's it. Even so, he got a pretty decent number of goals and assists for a midfielder last season (5 and 5)
I think its nice to have a balance, a passer of the ball, and a more box to box midfielder. I remember liverpool back in 2009, had a balance they had alonzo has the anchor man, and the more aggressive midfielder in mascharono, even though he sat deep. So I am hoping herrera can be the more carrick/alonzo type midfielder, where he is the passer. But we will see, herrera plus mata has the forward midfielder is starting to look very promising, just signing one top quality midfielder already sends us to another level
Ban him.
Why do we need a "marquee signing"? We need players who will improve us and get us playing better. This guy does that.
I'd rather have no "marquee signings" and have players who can come and play a role designated them by the manager, play it well, and move us forward. Marquee signings are completely unnecessary, if you're signing players who will do the job they're signed for and improve the team.
Herrera suits what we need more than Barkley does. We already have about half a dozen players who play where Barkley does.
Strange thought process really. ~£29m is too much for a Herrera but you'd happily see us pay ~£45m for a less experienced, less proven, less all-round midfielder?
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014...g-balague-on-imminent-herrera-to-united-move/
Balague on the possible signing - What a great signing by the way. He is as good as number 10 or centre mid. A clever player, an intelligent young man this @anderherrera8
Balague on the possible signing - What a great signing by the way. He is as good as number 10 or centre mid. A clever player, an intelligent young man this @anderherrera8
Would be happy with NDJ, Blind or even Barry as a stop gap DM, if we had the intention of getting Strootman in January.
BUT HE'S 4 YEARS YOUNGER!
Except Barkley wouldn't fit into the team half as well. We really don't need Barkley at all right now and he'd be an idiot to move from Everton this summer.
Personally I'm excited about this signing, some people seem to be forgetting this kid will be learning from one of the best tactically sound managers in the world and has the best medical set up in the world from all reports. He'll only be a far better player in 1-2 seasons time from LVG helping him.
He's a vast improvement on anything we currently have in the middle of the park as well. He could also only be a bit of the jig saw, its not the complete picture yet.
He's a vast improvement on anything we currently have in the middle of the park as well. He could also only be a bit of the jig saw, its not the complete picture yet.
Gustavo is having an outstanding World Cup, averaging 5 interceptions per game is mental which is seen when you compare him to the second best DM which would be De Rossi who averages 2.5 which is already brilliant. Carvalho is available, but he is untested in the high press(Gustavo has won the CL in it, for a Bayern people think is better than the current one).
People are talking about Blind, but I am not sure that will be a great solution for us as he is more a ball playing DM. Would make us very gung-ho, but our midfield would have everything possible offensively with Blind adding brilliant long-balls to the mix.
Badelj has had a good year and would be cheap and there are a loads of these sort of players for different teams in Europe, simply because the top teams aren't using them right now so the best "combative" DM's are playing for non-top teams.
You build the midfield around mata, especially a 5 man midfield we really could be back up there with the best,. Many say we need goals from midfield, in mata united could really see this guy hit double figures for united, possible 20 goals from mata if used effectively
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This is the important part. I keep wondering if he's any good but at the end of the day, it's a already an improvement on the shit we have in midfield at the moment. It's only taken us about half a decade to do it. Depending on who else we sign, and whether Carrick eats his Spinach this season or not, he will become our best midfielder.
Also, we are about to sign a player who was set to play in the Champions League for the first time with his hometown club, a club that is not very easy to negotiate with, while we are without Champions League. So this has been extremely well done by the club considering that nobody had any clue about this deal just 12 hours ago.
He's not really a Alonso/Carrick type of player, if he would have to be compared with one of our recent midfielders, I think Fletcher is a more fair comparison. Maybe even Hargreaves. Of course, he plays that roles in a more Spanish way.
I'd have this guy and one other behind Mata as the forward point. I'd be happy if the other was Strootman, or someone of that ilk. If you have two defensively solid midfielders you don't need an out and out spoiler.
I concur.
I always forget how tall he actually is. I'm always under the impression that he's a shorty like Scholes or Xavi, but he's actually 6'1.
Luis Gustavo + Herrara would be 
That's kind of the point.
Ok, so assuming we sign Ander, would he have the legs to play the no.8, because I know he normally plays as the most advanced midfielder for Bilbao?
We might as well make it a Spanish affair - sign Koke to pair with Herrera with Mata in front of them. Defence be damned!
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