Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!

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Morpheus 7 said:
I'm happy we are finally sorting out the midfield problem. I'm glad people are getting exciting but I wonder how many watch him regularly?
Bebe looked good on you tube:lol: I'm just on the fence about him. He's never played in the premier league and I don't remember him being in the Champions league, it's a lot of money. You would have to have the blinkers on to not rate Barkley, he's one of the top talents in Europe right now. Ross Barkley is very much an all round midfielder. Herrera is obviously a player with huge potential and can get better. I just find it funny how many seem to be an expert from you tube. He looked good when we played them in the Europa league, I hope he's a success.
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They're entirely different players though, who would play entirely different roles.

This place is weird, at times. We have a potential deal in place for a very good centre midfielder who could potentially be world class and your response is "£30mil? That's a lot. We should sign Barkley for £45mil instead".
 
Oneunited26 said:
Can barclay even play in the deepline role that LVG wants from his CM players, seeing barkley he just looks like another advanced midfielder, now a top class wide player is something we could do with
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That was my point, which is why I said Barclay lacked the positioning and decision making of Herrera when playing as a number 8. I was addressing @Morpheus 7's posts.
 
Morpheus 7 said:
I just think we need a big signing to lift the club after last season. You are right though, he doesn't need to be a house hold(marquee) signing to be a good player. After we lost the league to City on goal difference, the RVP signing lifted the club and the players that's all. If we buy another good central midfielder I will be a lot happier. I just don't want Carrick or Cleverley lining up with him, presuming we buy him that is.
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Getting the right players in who fill the positions we need strengthened in should lift the club. Muppets be muppeting, but we don't need big name players, we need the right players. This guy is a good fit.
 
The Neviller said:
They're entirely different players though, who would play entirely different roles.

This place is weird, at times. We have a potential deal in place for a very good centre midfielder who could potentially be world class and your response is "£30mil? That's a lot. We should sign Barkley for £45mil instead".
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The transfer forum has been nothing short of a joke this summer. Idiots will never be happy.
 
crossy1686 said:
He's top of the crosses and hitting the woodwork league isn't he?

I've never seen Herrera play more than twice. I'm only going off the video and what I saw, he played some great balls that led to crosses being put in and goals being scored but his stats aren't impressive if you look at his goals and assists. So I guess someone somewhere thinks he can do more in a different system or we're signing him to play in the wingers?

I've got no idea to be fair.
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Both that and the assisting the assister.

Herrera will be signed to play in a midfield. I imagine it'll be Carrick, Herrera and an AM be it Mata or Rooney. He definitely won't play in the wing and while he can play as an attacking midfielder, we have a lot of them so he won't play there.
 
A lot probably won't agree, but I honestly think Cleverley + Herrera could be a great double pivot. From what I've seen, Herrera will give us that drive in midfield - similar to what Ando used to give us. A few years back, the midfield of Cleverley and Anderson took off because of their quick incisive play on the ball, and the energy and desire to win the ball back. Cleverley was the more reserved midfielder, getting the ball off the back four and keeping things ticking over, while Anderson was more adventurous, getting forward and creating.

The two work tremendously hard, which would be key to Van Gaal's pressing game.
 
Shark said:
That's perfectly fine, it's not a crime to not be drawn in even with all of the evidence to suggest otherwise. Each to our own and all that.
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Nah you know what? It's fecking World Cup time and it looks like we've actually signed a midfielder. COCKS OUT BOYS
 
The Neviller said:
They're entirely different players though, who would play entirely different roles.

This place is weird, at times. We have a potential deal in place for a very good centre midfielder who could potentially be world class and your response is "£30mil? That's a lot. We should sign Barkley for £45mil instead".
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Did someone really said that? If so then :lol: The funny thing is that currently Herrera is both better and more proven than Barkley.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Joke right? Hard to tell on the internet but I will assume it was!
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Somewhat, yes

I've been impressed with gustavo also, but Kleberson was also impressive in a world cup, albeit he hadn't the same European experience that guy does!
 
RedDF said:
The reported wages are very low at 50k a week... Surely makes up for the high fee
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Apparently that is after tax (jojojo said something like that) which means that anyway the club will pay around 100k/week for wages.
 
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RedDF said:
The reported wages are very low at 50k a week... Surely makes up for the high fee
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That's 50k net of tax, according to Spanish reports. Roughly £100k/week pre-tax - which is about the going rate.
 
Revan said:
Did someone really said that? If so then :lol: The funny thing is that currently Herrera is both better and more proven than Barkley.
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Morpheus 7 said:
I just hope we sign somebody with him in central midfielder. I'm glad we might actually sign somebody but I hope he's not the marquee signing. I still would want Vidal or Schweinsteiger. It's a lot of money for Herrera and I'm on the fence, I hope it works out. For another 15m you couldn't have went for Barkley and he's only 20. It can only be good for Mata this signing though. I'm glad it's not been leaked badly and a long saga, maybe lessons are being learnt from last summer.
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
A lot probably won't agree, but I honestly think Cleverley + Herrera could be a great double pivot. From what I've seen, Herrera will give us that drive in midfield - similar to what Ando used to give us. A few years back, the midfield of Cleverley and Anderson took off because of their quick incisive play on the ball, and the energy and desire to win the ball back. Cleverley was the more reserved midfielder, getting the ball off the back four and keeping things ticking over, while Anderson was more adventurous, getting forward and creating.
The two work tremendously hard, which would be key to Van Gaal's pressing game.
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Yeah I would disagree. Cleverley is weak defensively, his positioning and movement off the ball is very poor in my opinion. Also, he shies away from tackling. There is no use of Cleverley staying deep.
It has to be Carrick+Herrera until we sign somebody to replace the former.
Creativity will not be a problem as long as Mata, RVP and Januzaj are on the pitch. We just need somebody to move the ball faster in the middle to attacking players.
 
Well, 2014 generation. Less said, the better.

It is really batshit crazy opinion though. Herrera is better, more proven and can play somewhere that we don't have many options while Barkley is still only raw potential and would be like four or fifth choice for the No.10 role.
 
m1y2 said:
highlights thorugh season is oone think but I think people can make a better judgement on a palyer seeing him in a whole match against top teams
there is also a vid how he played against barcelona and did particulay well..

he seems to have pretty everything what our CM needs, Isnt shy to tackle, aggresive, determined, and can RUN with the ball! dribbles well and has really nice vision. Havent seen much of long passes and shooting/finishing but still think he could be a starter for us right away... he also plays in 4-3-3 system in bilbao team with high pressing if Im not mistaken so he would fit easily..
hope the rumors are true...
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Nothing special at all in that video. But he reminds me of Cleverley's great performance vs City. So energetic.
 
So we're finally going all out in signing Spanish players just as they reach the end of their dominance and the national team turns to shit? Thanks Woodward.

lolzy
 
So, now that we have three Spanish muskeeters, I hope that we'll do the same for German players. Hummels, Reus and Bender would be pretty nice.
 
Amazing news if this comes off, as if I needed any more reasons to be excited about the new season. Hopefully we'll get another midfielder as well and all of a sudden our midfield is no longer our Achilles Heel.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Just out of curiosity @jojojo didn't he mostly play as a no.10 last season?
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Not really a #10 in the Rooney, Mata, Ozil 10 sense. He's a midfielder first and an attacker (a distant) second. He could do any of the roles Anderson, Cleverley, Fellaini or "Giggs in the middle" has played over the past couple of years.

More significantly perhaps, he could give us back one of Scholes' old characteristics - he can be the man who always seems to be available for a pass when a player is under pressure. Before anyone complains: that is not a comparison to Scholes, it's just a part of the job description. :D
 
Revan said:
So, now that we have three Spanish muskeeters, I hope that we'll do the same for German players. Hummels, Reus and Bender would be pretty nice.
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Pick three of every nationality? I like it.

Need a couple of Dutch guys to join RvP though. Robben and Blind?
 
A1X said:
Pick three of every nationality? I like it.

Need a couple of Dutch guys to join RvP though. Robben and Blind?
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Only the good ones. Robben and Blind/Strootman would be pretty good too.
 
Good buy if true. Him combined with say Strootman in the middle and Mata/Kagawa infront of them looks really good.
 
jojojo said:
Not really a #10 in the Rooney, Mata, Ozil 10 sense. He's a midfielder first and an attacker (a distant) second. He could do any of the roles Anderson, Cleverley, Fellaini or "Giggs in the middle" has played over the past couple of years.

More significantly perhaps, he could give us back one of Scholes' old characteristics - he can be the man who always seems to be available for a pass when a player is under pressure. Before anyone complains: that is not a comparison to Scholes, it's just a part of the job description. :D
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That's such a key thing we've missed for a while: A midfielder who trusts himself enough to go for the ball in tight and uncomfortable areas, and who can be trusted enough by his team mates that they'll give it to him - Like Scholes.

I've said before that as poor as Smalling has often looked at right back, he'd have looked quite a bit better with Scholes around giving him proper options. Our current set usually give him the ball and just leave him to it.
There will be no more centre backs choosing to hoof it because they know they'll get it straight back from Cleverley if they pass it to him or Carrick wont show. We can actually build some consistent attacks from the back if he comes. And we add another, we'll be looking great.
 
I'm very pleased with this. It's an area we have needed to fill for about 3 years. Great age at 24, I think he would work well with Carrick. Carrick is a class player, but he has played with some really poor players next to him. This could revive him. Now plug the other holes. LB, CB, CB, Winger!
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
A lot probably won't agree, but I honestly think Cleverley + Herrera could be a great double pivot. From what I've seen, Herrera will give us that drive in midfield - similar to what Ando used to give us. A few years back, the midfield of Cleverley and Anderson took off because of their quick incisive play on the ball, and the energy and desire to win the ball back. Cleverley was the more reserved midfielder, getting the ball off the back four and keeping things ticking over, while Anderson was more adventurous, getting forward and creating.

The two work tremendously hard, which would be key to Van Gaal's pressing game.
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Well, if we don't bring in anyone else, it's certainly worth trying. Cleverley's general neatness has never been a great asset for us, but this could change in a system which will likely be radically different from anything we've seen for years at United.

The Cleverley-Ando combo only worked half the way in my opinion, though - that is, they were good when we pushed on and not very good at all when we were being pushed back. But Herrera is clearly a far more natural central midfielder than poor Ando ever was - so, yeah, why not.
 
Speak said:
That's such a key thing we've missed for a while: A midfielder who trusts himself enough to go for the ball in tight and uncomfortable areas, and who can be trusted enough by his team mates that they'll give it to him - Like Scholes.
I've said before that as poor as Smalling has often looked at right back, he'd have looked quite a bit better with Scholes around giving him proper options. Our current set usually give him the ball and just leave him to it.
There will be no more centre backs choosing to hoof it because they know they'll get it straight back from Cleverley if they pass it to him or Carrick wont show. We can actually build some consistent attacks from the back if he comes. And we add another, we'll be looking great.
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Good point, I agree. Two midfielders who are not shitting themselves under pressure will be a huge boost.
 
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