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He was great tonight though.
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Check La Liga thread for his performances. This is for transfer related news.
He was great tonight though.
I thought that was a very, very good performance.
Managed to shake up the Barca midfield due to sheer tenacity and work rate. Also crucially won the ball and released Susieta for the winning goal.
Overall showcased some of the abilities I think we could've benefitted greatly from.
Managed to shake up the Barca midfield due to sheer tenacity and work rate. Also crucially won the ball and released Susieta for the winning goal.
Overall showcased some of the abilities I think we could've benefitted greatly from.
He worked hard, put himself about in the tackle but to be honest he didn't look spectacular technically in possession. Looks a defensive player, even though he seemed to be playing mainly from the right. Still overall a very good player though who would improve us. If we are judging transfer fees by the Fellaini one, he's more than worth the money, but if we are in realismville, it's a lot of money for someone who does what he does.
He's a potentially very good player with all the attributes we need in a midfielder. This is nothing that we didn't already know before the game. Well, some of us...
Haven't seen that much of Herrera, so I find it hard to figure out what sort of player he is. He seems to play in the same position as Kagawa/Rooney a lot, though posters here have said he can play well from deeper too. Going by the way he was described tonight he sounds like a more skilful Darren Fletcher which, while not a bad thing, isn't necessarily something I'd want to spend that kind of money on. Still, I suppose we have plenty of room for midfielders atm so if he is good enough to get to roughly the same level as someone like Carrick he might be a worthwhile signing, no?
Edit: He also sounds like someone who'd suit the PL very well, which is an obvious plus.
Edit: He also sounds like someone who'd suit the PL very well, which is an obvious plus.
Why are they pissing about with Herrera again? Everyone who knows anything about Bilbao know they would rather run a player's contract down than sell him for less than the release value.
Pay up or give up. You just know if he was to come he'd have more of a beneficial impact to developing some kind of style of play than Fellaini. I want the big broom head to succeed but we needed someone who could knock it about, not knock people about.
Pay up or give up. You just know if he was to come he'd have more of a beneficial impact to developing some kind of style of play than Fellaini. I want the big broom head to succeed but we needed someone who could knock it about, not knock people about.
He'd be a shrewd purchase in January. He'll improve us now, he'll improve further over the next few years and he's eligible for the Champions League.
This.
We'll do an FM style bidding cycle. Start at something low-ish, like €20m, work our way up to our final offer of €30m, then a few weeks later make our original offer of €20m.
We'll offer Anderson in the deal then forget that they have a basque only policy.
He is probably not worth £30mil in a summer window. But given how clubs can ask for more in the winter £30mil isnt a bad price at all.
Is he actually worth this kind of money? Every time I see him play, he seems like an average player with a decent engine. Sort of like a bit more adventerous Cleverley.
We should add 10 million and buy genuine quality.
We should add 10 million and buy genuine quality.
This guy is genuine quality and young, we should buy him. A future starter for Spain.
He is overpriced somewhat but that's the premium you have to pay to release him from his Bilbao contract.
There is no point looking at a player like Herrera from a club like Bilbao if we aren't going to play by the rules. I can see exactly why we're going for him as a second option from Fabregas...and you've only got to see the impact of some of the Spaniards in this league to see that whilst his numbers at Bilbao aren't breathtaking, his ability might make him a different player here.
I'll say it until we've signed him or given it up completely...pay up the money or move onto the next one.
There is no point looking at a player like Herrera from a club like Bilbao if we aren't going to play by the rules. I can see exactly why we're going for him as a second option from Fabregas...and you've only got to see the impact of some of the Spaniards in this league to see that whilst his numbers at Bilbao aren't breathtaking, his ability might make him a different player here.
I'll say it until we've signed him or given it up completely...pay up the money or move onto the next one.
How much do people think he is overpriced?
Bilbao have no need to sell and we don't want to pay the release clause.
If we think he is a £25mil pound player we would be silly not to pay the extra £5mil if we dont a have a backup plan. If we Only rate him as a £20mil pound player fair enough. Also it appears his wage demands are not extortionate.
Everybody is going to fleece us when we going looking for CM at this stage. At least Bilbao have to accept £30mil.
It depends if people are looking subjectively or objectively. If you're comparing how much his release fee is compared to transfers such as Yaya Toure, Fabregas, Modric to name a few you think how the hell can this guy cost £30m? But then you look at his value to Bilbao...it's tough for them to replace a quality player because of their policies and you can see exactly why their players carry extraordinary premiums.
It'll be January and we need signings. If we want him, we're going to have to pay it. Bilbao hold all the cards.
This is his performance against Barcelona when they won recently. Good performance but he does a few passes.
We've worked ourselves into a situation where we'll have to pay at a premium for a midfielder as everybody knows that's what we need. It's no use trying to find a bargain as we're not going to get one. If Herrera is what Moyes thinks our midfield needs, pay the release clause and be done with it.
Bob Cass reckons we won't be spending in January, and that Moyes is content to sacrifice any challenge for this year's title to make a better go of the summer transfer market. I know he only goes on what he's told but I'd be surprised if we go back in for him next month.
Sign him up.
If Moyes thinks he has the luxury that he can just cruise through with mediocrity until the summer he might get a nasty surprise!
Yep, 9th place.
According to Cass the Glazers won't sack Moyes even if we finish outside of the top 4, and he'll be given the chance to improve upon the 'mediocrity' in the summer.
Are you disputing that 9th is mediocrity by the way?
And why is Bob Cass suddenly being believed as some all knowing oracle?
It seems pretty poor logic that Moyes won't spend in January as he doesn't want to "chase" the title.
It's about improvement, there's no delay on that if there's someone available worth buying!
And why is Bob Cass suddenly being believed as some all knowing oracle?
It seems pretty poor logic that Moyes won't spend in January as he doesn't want to "chase" the title.
It's about improvement, there's no delay on that if there's someone available worth buying!
Cass has good sources at the club. Namely being one of the few journalists SAF trusts ( except that time he told Cass to feck off )
I didn't say he was an all knowing oracle did I? I said he goes on what he's told
No, 9th is not acceptable with our squad, our players are a lot better than 9th and it's Moyes' responsibility to get them playing to their potential, but we do have substandard players who need replacing and according to Cass they will give him the time and financial backing to do so- in the summer
He doesn't know anything more than us lot.
We all know Baines is coming in Jan. Probably for about 18m
We all know Baines is coming in Jan. Probably for about 18m
While he's a decent player, he's not worth the price tag they've put on him. I think our desperation for a midfielder could lead to us overpaying again. That's the situation we've found ourselves in. His stats aren't all that impressive and he's been struggling to get in their team for a long time. If that's due in part to our supposed interest in him, it's not a good sign about his mentality. We don't want to see players wilting when the spotlight is magnified on them.
Not likely, considering the quality of midfielders they keep producing. Herrera is yet to earn a single senior cap for Spain at the age of 24 and he isn't even selected in their squads. Meanwhile younger players than him such as Thiago, Isco and Koke are being played and they've got others in the pipeline. The fact they're ignoring him indicates what level they think he's at.
Not likely, considering the quality of midfielders they keep producing. Herrera is yet to earn a single senior cap for Spain at the age of 24 and he isn't even selected in their squads. Meanwhile younger players than him such as Thiago, Isco and Koke are being played and they've got others in the pipeline. The fact they're ignoring him indicates what level they think he's at.
agree 100%
I agree with this in the main, which is why we should not have have panicked and got Fellaini, and just spent the Fellaini cash on Herrera instead.
Herrera's not going to be the next Xavi but he will at least hit Mikael Arteta level, and Arteta would easily walk into our first choice midfield and is easily better than most Premier League players. For me, that's good enough.
Herrera is a fantastic player and I reckon he'll surprise many if he joined. I think there is a top player in him.
If we got him in January, where does he play? What's the best United team, with him in the squad?
Next to Carrick obviously? He'd walk into our starting 11 as many central midfielders would who are good technically. He'd be a very good signing IMO but for the price we'd have to pay there are a few that we could get who are better, like koke, pjanic, marchisio, etc. Wouldn't mind him though.
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