walsh
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Dunno. Why clubs want the money? cnuts.
Well they can't really buy anyone to replace him, they're pool of players to choose from is extremely limited.
Dunno. Why clubs want the money? cnuts.
They said that they won't sell Cesc and Cesc said that he isn't even thinking of leaving.
Would he be a backup to Carrick, or a partner? I've never heard of him. Not even on FM.
We need to learn that this is standard fare nowadays though. It might be a bit "embarrassing" that he's our record signing but if we mean business moving forward we're going to have to break that transfer record regularly over the coming years. I mean look at Real and Barca's top transfers, not to mention the likes of City, Chelsea, Napoli etc.
He is similar to Carrick, probably a better athlete at his age. He's not going to be a goal threat but he is very capable, creative and efficient in possession. Alongside Carrick in a 4231 we would have improved our starting eleven significantly.
He's very good, very creative although not really in terms of creating goals, but he is capable of defense splitting passes and is more attack oriented than Carrick or Cleverley are. He has a good shot too. He's 24 and off the back of a rather underwhelming season so I'm not sure he'll ever be a world beater but he'd be a top acquisition for us. He's also quite physically strong so I don't think he'd struggle to adapt.
Would he be a backup to Carrick, or a partner? I've never heard of him. Not even on FM.
Well they can't really buy anyone to replace him, they're pool of players to choose from is extremely limited.
I think €36m is pretty spot on for him really. We can't use the Fabregas bid as a basis because everyone knows we were bidding far too low on that.
I think €36m is pretty spot on for him really. We can't use the Fabregas bid as a basis because everyone knows we were bidding far too low on that.
Well what do you expect them to say when we give them a shit unrealistic bid? Every player has a price.
A partner, he's certainly not a Carrick type player and is more attacking than the likes of Cleverley.Would he be a backup to Carrick, or a partner? I've never heard of him. Not even on FM.
I think €36m is pretty spot on for him really. We can't use the Fabregas bid as a basis because everyone knows we were bidding far too low on that.
They said that they won't sell Cesc and Cesc said that he isn't even thinking of leaving.
He's quite similar to Arteta, so one thing he'll bring is a good pedigree for ball retention and knocking it about.Would he be a backup to Carrick, or a partner? I've never heard of him. Not even on FM.
Well what do you expect them to say when we give them a shit unrealistic bid? Every player has a price.
I believe that is at the discretion of the selling club though.
I honestly couldn't say as I don't know much about the lad. I'll take your word for it and if you think that 36m is about right, then he must be some player. Cocks out then?
It makes the Fabregas bid even stranger though, can't work out what was going on there
Fabregas said that a long time after the entire transfer was made public. He kept mum when everyone else at the club went public about their desire to keep him from their board to the coach to the players. His silence at the time told a lot. He was always going to come out with the "I never wanted to leave" shit once the move didnt materialize. If we'd got barca to accept a bid, he'd be here now.
We made a couple of low balls offer to test their resolve. There resolve was strong so we knew there was no point going any higher and stopped there.It makes the Fabregas bid even stranger though, can't work out what was going on there
He's quite similar to Arteta, so one thing he'll bring is a good pedigree for ball retention and knocking it about.
Don't know how I'd feel about him being our record signing if it happened (I'm sure €36m converts to £31m). Upfront fees are deceptive, at the time many felt we overpaid for Carrick but 7 years later he's regarded as one of Sir Alex's most successful signings.
I imagine, that unless we face competition for him, that we will try and get him for our preferred price and then spunk out for the release clause on deadline day out of desperation.
Woodward is a right fecking weapon. Bidding £3m short of a release clause, getting in a transfer war with Everton for Fellaini when we could have had him 2 weeks ago hassle free at the price we'll likely end up paying. A fecking weapon.
They said 'feck off you wankers, we are not going to sell Cesc'. Cesc said 'My dream has always been to succeed at Barca, feck off Woody and go sign Fellaini'. I don't think that money was going to do anything, unless we went full retard and payed 50-60m.
We made a couple of low balls offer to test their resolve. There resolve was strong so we knew there was no point going any higher and stopped there.
This is a discussion for a different thread I suppose. But its utterly bizarre how low we valued Fabregas, bidding more on Herrera is laughable. This whole window has been mental.
We're over paying for Herrera by about 15m.
I don't know about "some player", he's very very good and would be an excellent fit here, but given what players are going for nowadays, that's just the going rate for a talented young Spanish midfielder (Martinez, Illarramendi).
Well they can't really buy anyone to replace him, they're pool of players to choose from is extremely limited.
No good videos about. Half of it was him just arguing with refs
Why do people keep moaning that we did't offer that much for Fabregas, or even ten or fifteen million more? If there was a release clause in Fabregas' contract of €46M we'd have paid it, as would a lot of other clubs to be fair. The release clause in Herrera's contract makes it (theoretically anyway) easier to negotiate. However, it also works the other way, as in if there was no release clause, Athletic would have been tempted to accept the 30M. But as it is, they can just say give us another 6M and we're golden.
We offered 30/35M for Fabregas, and were told no by Martino, by people on the board and by Fabregas himself. What would be the point in offering again?
This thread is just going to be people saying "why don't we just pay the 36 million euros? FFS" followed by people explaining that Bilbao will ask for it to be paid in a way that requires tax to be paid so we end up paying far more, only for more people to ignore the tax issue and demand we pay the 36 million euros and the cycle continues either until he signs or the window closes now, isn't it?