Nobody can do it on there own for goodness sake, where the hell was Carrick? We have a three man midfield not a one man midfield.
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I am sorry but you dont seem to understand the game of football and that Rooney bit is only highlighting your lack of knowledge..
maybe you can do me a favour and watch his highlights which are going to be uploaded soon and see the difference because that you can reply over and over again, if its too fast paced live for you and your brain
But it makes sense for the opposition to try and cancel out Pogba and Carrick. It means they are saying that Herrera is the weak link. Today he had the most space and time in the midfield and couldn't settle down enough to take control, which would have then opened things up for Pogba.
What does Herrera even do? lol
The things he did bad definitely should be criticised but you don't seem to appreciate or understand the context of the game.
His options from two midfield partners dwindled down to himself. Are you understanding the situation here?
There's no doubting he made some very bad mistakes and was terrible in his long range passing. However, if you can't appreciate or rather be forgiving for that, even though he was the only one, who came off good when the most experienced midfielder in the team hid in his shell and the most talented one bottled it big time, then you're being harsh imo.
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He did more today than Carrick and Pogba combined. Yes he had some failed passes, but that was more down to Liverpool having a really good defensive game. As other have pointed out, he put both Pogba and Miki clean through on goal and won a FK right outside the area. Additionally he had loads of interceptions and good tackles
He did more today than Carrick and Pogba combined. Yes he had some failed passes, but that was more down to Liverpool having a really good defensive game. As other have pointed out, he put both Pogba and Miki clean through on goal and won a FK right outside the area. Additionally he had loads of interceptions and good tackles
I see it have a go at Ander day again. Some must have been twitching for weeks to have an opportunity. Pity that when he played people through they didn't do their job properly and put the ball in the net. It's goals that win games.
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He did more today than Carrick and Pogba combined. Yes he had some failed passes, but that was more down to Liverpool having a really good defensive game. As other have pointed out, he put both Pogba and Miki clean through on goal and won a FK right outside the area. Additionally he had loads of interceptions and good tackles
But the real opportunity for him today was to slow the game down to our speed as he had the most space to do so. Instead, when given that time he lost possession needlessly.
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Herrera is a good player but not top level for me. His performance today was one of the better ones in an all round poor display.
When a player misplaces 9/11 long passes he turns the ball over to the opposition 9 times which is unacceptable despite what else they do in the game.
Herrera is a good player but not top level for me. His performance today was one of the better ones in an all round poor display.
When a player misplaces 9/11 long passes he turns the ball over to the opposition 9 times which is unacceptable despite what else they do in the game.
Kidding, right?
shame you looked sensible poster until you started posting in this thread..
to sum that up with the answer to your comment you cant even pick the right moments which you didnt like, which is strange... but yeah he only lost the ball by misplacing few passes due to being forced to be creative because our creative player in the pitch and best passers in the team didnt show up... When Pogba picks 2,3 wrong passes nobody complains, and its one of his biggest assets... and as I said its extremel hard to do good against high pressing liverpool team in terms of passing, even the best passers like Pogba and Carrick again did feck all which is useful take into account when judging herreras terrible terrible 4 misplaced passes this game...
its so much worse when Pogba looses the ball when trying to dribble past two players on the half and sets two very dangerous counters, I could take 10 hoofed balls which can still give you hope of winning the second ball high hup the pitch then ONE fecking loss of possession pogba style today.. cant really get whats ppl obsession with discrediting herrera today and what he misplaced few long passes but created 6 fecking chances while playing a s defensive mid and basically alon in the midfield... have you ever tried to play football people? Maybe then you would comment completely different to this myth that two of your partners in the midfield are complete shite but you are still not forgiven not to be perfect with your passing while doing the job for both.
you should better give a player credit for making up for two players who didnt show up instead of being a critical of him like "thats not an excuse he should still do better" try to play in midfield on your own
or give it a time to analyze before you say something stupid. I know that ppl get carried away when the teams not doing well especially in a tense game like this so they downplay some of the players performances but for me its really hilarious to see ppl claiming he had good moments and bad moments let alone being called poor, thats really shocking considering he was under these circumstances certainly not perfect but still fantasticYeah. Pretty sure there is a thread named something along the lines of what i wrote.
Do you have short fat hairy legs?I thought he was crap today. I am shocked to see him voted man of the match.
Arguably Mkhitaryan... And Valencia did get the assist for the goal.
I thought everyone was rubbish today. Rojo was probably the least rubbish and at least Fellaini and Rooney changed the game somewhat when they came on, but yeah... Pretty rubbish overall. And Herrera might not have been as rubbish as others, but still pretty rubbish.
I am sorry but you dont seem to understand the game of football and that Rooney bit is only highlighting your lack of knowledge..
maybe you can do me a favour and watch his highlights which are going to be uploaded soon and see the difference because that you can reply over and over again, if its too fast paced live for you and your brain
Grow up mate. You're acting like a child.
You've lost me here, DT
I guess my legs are medium length and quite hairy maybe.
There's a reason he divides opinion so much. He does some things well and others not so well.
Think he's been poor lately, but Carrick and Pogba were just as bad and probably worse.
Entire midfield had a poor day.
Entire midfield had a poor day.
Not heard of Morecambe and Wise then? Wise was the one with the short fat hairy legs who thought he was a playwright.You've lost me here, DT
I guess my legs are medium length and quite hairy maybe.
Probably because he doesn't spray 50 yd passes all over. Trouble is nobody does that regularly. Yes they might do one or two a game. Ander made some good passes today that could of and maybe should have led to goals, but some prefer to ignore them and focus on what he can't do rather than the really good stuff he can do.
He did well today considering he played alone in that midfield.
Thought he was poor today. His decision to play long balls with his left foot though is really baffling me. Anybody have a theory as to why he was doing this? I wouldn't mind but the passes looked easy if he'd have gone with his right.
Fantastic post, Herrera was motm for me.
I think folks who don't appreciate what he is doing in the midfield for us don't really understand the game.
Nah, i'm a foreigner, sorry.
You'll have to google it. I was going to say google short fat hairy legs but thought some rather disturbing images might appear.Nah, i'm a foreigner, sorry.
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well you were the one who used the word twat, I only said you dont understand the game which is backed by your out of depth posts. If we scored one goal more with the same performance that would have changes some ppls mind...
why would some players need to automatically be called least rubish while they were decent... rojo was very solid, not least rubbish. Herrera was definitely great today 8/10 easily considering the team around him particularly midfielders were rubbish, but on that we disagree... depsite the all negativity about hits game theres plenty off ppl who will call him brilliant in this game, that should tell you something..
I thought he was poor.
Worked hard with the pressing but was poor with everything else.
Worked hard with the pressing but was poor with everything else.
And we are supposed to forget the great passes he played to let Mkhi through on goal and another completely wasted by Valencia's inability to cross? It looks like a lot of posters watch the game with confirmation bias so they can't bring themselves to appreciate a decent performance when the most experienced midfielder and the most expensive one couldn't do one positive thing all game.
He played 2 of the nicest passes I've seen all season. One outside of the foot to Valencia and another between 2 players again to Valencia
Mhikitaryan did very little with ball at feet.
Valencias crossing was by and large terrible, the cutback for the Zlatan goal you would expect every player on the pitch to be comfortably capable of.
The best passes of the game came from Herrera, the outside of the boot pass in the first half, the throughball for Mhikitaryans chance and the two balls that put Valencia on behind the fullback in the second half.
Was our best player today in my opinion. He's had better games, but was still the only one who didn't look like the game phased him.
Yeah that must be it
You are welcome to read the rest of my posts on Herrera. He's one of my favourite players and I want him to be captain.
BUT, two aesthetically pleasing passes to Valencia doesn't make it a good performances. I thought he worked hard but he did very little with the ball. And the Mikhi pass was hardly a difficult pass to make. Even then he could have put more weight it so Mikhi wouldn't have to wait for it with Milner closing.
Thought he was easily our best player again. At least he has a set/
You are ignoring the context of the game whereby Pogba and Carrick both wilted under Liverpool's pressure. He could have done better but to down play his positives smirks of an agenda to me regardless of what you might say. The point remains that he was our best ....no...only midfielder tonight.Yeah that must be it
You are welcome to read the rest of my posts on Herrera. He's one of my favourite players and I want him to be captain.
BUT, two aesthetically pleasing passes to Valencia doesn't make it a good performances. I thought he worked hard but he did very little with the ball. And the Mikhi pass was hardly a difficult pass to make. Even then he could have put more weight it so Mikhi wouldn't have to wait for it with Milner closing.
I think that Zlatan wanted that ball to his feet rather than so he would have to pull off a really difficult header.
I'm obviously in the minority here but I thought he was poor whenever we were in possession. Didn't show enough for the ball and his passing was either off or backwards far too much.
As someone else said, everybody was shite, Herrera being less shite doesn't make it a good performance. It seems because Pogba had a mare and Carrick failed to show up, Herrera is the "only one with balls" or some other such bollocks.
I can only imagine that a scrappy, high energy game played in Herrera's hands and gives the impression that Herrera was having a good game, even though he wasn't any better at helping us to assert ourselves on the game.
His long range passing is pretty average, isn't it? However, all things considered, hasn't Herrera silently been the better midfielder than Pogba thus far this season? Against Liverpool, not his best match for me. He was a little sloppy and didn't offer enough going forward.
Listen. The caf is about opinions. Everyone has there own... Some people thought Herrera had a good game, some here thought he was poor. Neither is right or wrong... It's just an opinion based on your viewing of the game. I watched the game from the stands and wasn't impressed... You saw it differently... Fine, we can then debate it without questioning the other person's ability to watch football, because people are allowed to have opinions that are different to yours.
Everyone here watches football, it's strange that people always seem to want to accuse others of not doing this. We're all nobodies in the grand scheme of the world of football... You and me included. Your opinion isn't the be all and end all, and you'd do well to remember that and have some respect for your fellow Caf members, as opposed up to talking down to them. You were being a twat in your first post, hence why I said you were. You're not better then anyone here, so why not just debate football, instead of taking pointless and childish shots.
Yep. Somehow he reminded me of Scot Parker today.
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