Not his best game, but at least hes doing something.
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His decision making about when to take long range shots is awful. Its either they're blocked or well wide.
Not sure why he thinks he's Lampard, Scholes or Gerrard. He takes an absurd amount of long range shots for a player that doesn't have the ability.
He loses his head when we lose. Needs to stay calm.
Not his best game, but at least hes doing something.
Those crosses. Clearly wanted to play as a no 8 so badly.
I hate seeing him at #6.
I lose confidence in a win and he wasted there anyway.
I lose confidence in a win and he wasted there anyway.
I like him as a no 8. His ability is more suitable for no 8 in my opinion.
You make me a compilation of his ''good passes'' in the Liverpool game and I will make you a compilation that has at least three more wayward, diabolical passes.
Nothing to do with this game though and I usually appreciate the role he plays. But he is very-very limited. Hopefully he does something magical for us in the second half.
Scholesy you need to lay of the cider buddy
One day he'll lash one in to the top corner.
Love Herrera to bits, but the fact is we need an upgrade both at #6 and #8 from him to get back to the level we aspire to be at.
Brilliant alternative and option though, but should not be nailed on every match like now.
Brilliant alternative and option though, but should not be nailed on every match like now.
Scored a few nice long-range efforts in his time though? The numbers aren't great but he has it in him.
Hell he's probably scored as many long range efforts as Rooney has in the last three years.
Did watch the game but not with the fanboy glasses you were wearing apparently. Carried our midfield in a game we struggled to get a foothold in midfield at all? Yeah sure. You mean to say he did not do as bad as Pogba and Carrick did. That doesn't mean he did well. He looked good when we were going all out attack, with Fellaini winning balls, and Liverpool backing off. So he was able to put in some good passes finally. Before that his rang was all over the place and he looked nervous and reckless. And Redcafe's MOTM? Are you having a laugh?Have you seen some player's rating on here? Fanboys are running that thing.
P.S I am a Herrera fanboy too.
So just to clarify, comfortably the best defensive contribution in the game, in played the best passes in the game and I think he covered the most distance too, he was, as the majority here agreed, our MOTM. But don't let evidence get in your way. Have a proper read of the post first mate, no one was saying he was amazing, he was simply our best player. And when he contributes the most offensively and defensively out of our midfielders when we have a specialist defensive and offensive midfielder on the pitch, it's fair to say he held them together.
He will be our Park long term
Even, Fellaini was miles better in the mere cameo he did towards the end. But hey, don't let the evidence get in your way.
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Oh you're serious? Wierd how the cafe disagrees with you.
Yes I am. Ibra got us a goal out of nowhere to grab us a point. Fellaini won several headers and got our attack finally going. There's two players who contributed much more right there. But you know what, Herrera sent one 7 yard pass rolling. Oooooooh!disagree. He has done Kante's job better than Kante. If Chelsea win the league with Kante in their midfield then Herrera is fine.....Kante is inferior offensively and Herrera makes more interceptions and tackles statistically. I bet you would like Kante though. Strange that?
I love your creativity, the way you just copy exactly what I do and then post it back thinking it witty, amazing stuff. Apparently, 14+ turnovers in a game doesn't count for anything, at least comparing to a player winning some headers! Most defensive midfielders average about 6 a gsme to give you some perspective.Oh
He's the last player we should critique after today we absolutely bossed possession. It is our attackers who need to be lambasted and especially Zlatan
Exactly this.
The whole side looks clueless when he is at #6.
Herrera and Valencia are probably the only two of our player that will give 120% every game full season, they clean up the mess that the other player did
He was excellent, tackled well, always anticipating the second ball, the only midfielder who was challenging in the air for us and his passing was crisp, and accurate and he kept the tempo flowing. Very forward thinking on the ball.. him and Mkhi have a brilliant understanding and the two of them can just dominate sides in terms of possession. Does he have it in him to take his game to the next level and be a match winner.. I don't know but we don't need him to be that, we just need him to go out there and dominate the opposition and he did his job today. Anyone who can't see that doesn't understand winning the midfield battle. We won that battle by a country mile and it was because of Herrera.
This.
Fletcher in 07-08 was struggling to make our match days squads and he was at the very least equal to Herrera.
In which way did we look clueless, explain that to me. How did Herrera actually lead the side to look clueless (bar the first 15 minutes).. it is a ridiculous remark to make. If you watch the game, it is in the final third where we lost that match.
Too slow for me and always want great pass stats I feel over anything else. yes i'm bitter.
Over the course of the game he is so inconsistent. He over commits to some tackles and is out of position, tries these long range shots that goes nowhere and then makes some key interceptions and passes. I'd rather we have a player who does the basics well because we have pogba to do the spectacular.
Herrera is better than Fletcher at controlling games against weaker opposition, as he is superior technically but where Herrera has fallen short is that in the big games when we need to control the game and not just match them for work-rate, he has maybe struggled a tad in this regard, he doesn't have that higher level IQ to really control a big 6 type of game. Fletcher was actually brilliant in big games because he just has that mentality where he would be at his best in the bigger matches.
Overall agree that we might actually need to upgrade in those positions, but there are more bigger concerns right now. I am flabbergasted anyone watched todays game and thought, I know what was wrong with that game, it was our central midfield.
Not better than Jordan Henderson.
don't know about loosing his head but he's one of the few who actually shifts to another level when losing the game while staying composed, sometimes he just wants to win the ball further up the pitch when chasing the goal but that's completely fine for me as you just need to take risks late in the game.
saying all this he was pretty poor in the first half perhaps his worst half for us this season but it's not a surprise when Pogba touched bal once in first twenty minutes and Fellaini killed any sort of midfield chemistry there, either at trying to be involved in the build up or sprinting up front and hoping to get a long ball, my worries is that it might alo be Jose's instructions... but that's not how you start a game you want to win in a tough away game at Stoke when you need to control the game..
Second half back to his high standard, players up front should do better and noone would say a bad word about him..
Had a good 2nd half.
Mourinho's team selection the issue. I have no problem with playing Fellani in the midfield 3 but not the further fecking forward. Play him at the base. All this dictating/play making no 6 is mostly bs and doesn't 'matter' that much in this league and for our style of play. Get him to run about physically in the middle and let Herrera/Pogba create in front.
Mourinho's team selection the issue. I have no problem with playing Fellani in the midfield 3 but not the further fecking forward. Play him at the base. All this dictating/play making no 6 is mostly bs and doesn't 'matter' that much in this league and for our style of play. Get him to run about physically in the middle and let Herrera/Pogba create in front.
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the whole side looks clueless when we play fellaini in midfield, when we subbed him off we actually started to create chances like always, but it was always gonna be tough away at Stoke who defend one goal lead, Carrick should have started or no fellaini and we would comfortably win the gamebut we lost about 50 minutes trying to play with fellaini in build up
He was bossing it with short passes. He wasn't poor but he was so ineffective. I think most attributes he gave are more for a no 8. His positioning is poor to protect the back four, doesn't have the ability to play long passes, when he plays deeper he makes too many poor decision making to where he's going to pass the ball. Zlatan did create some chances for us though. Can't blame him.
Have you seen the state of our building from the back? Its nervy and badly thought out and invariably requires Pogba to drop deep and carry the ball up the field.
And Herrera's a head down footballer. Very rarely will he collect the ball, lift his head and pick the pass that no one else saw coming. He just hasn't got it in him to get us playing from deep.
It's not just this game either. We saw it plenty earlier in the season. He's fine at short, quick passing and is far more suited to playing further forward.
Thank you, kind sir. Even I love your complete disregard to the context of the Liverpool game and what/who played more important roles in getting us a point in a match the entire team was dire for the most part. Cheers.
I prefer him further forward to pass around the box and he can burst into the box and score goals.
FWIW, this is the game where Carrick should be playing so that Herrera and Pogba released further up the pitch. Having said that, short passing is exactly the way you should be dominating a side like Stoke so that they can't utilise their physicality. In the first 20 minutes, we were going long ball and we played right into their hands.
Zlatan was absolutely to blame for todays draw, he was a pansy today with his conviction on the ball and looked like he didn't want to be playing.
It was nervy in the first 20 minutes because Smalling was looking very awkward and without Carrick we looked bit lost as to how we are meant to be building up. Once we settled, we were constantly on the front foot and controlling proceedings. Ball was going from defence to attack very fluidly, its just we had zero pace and penetration up front and all that possession was not being converted to chances efficiently enough and when those chances were created, we were bottling our finishing. Lack of killer instinct been shown all season.
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