Hasn't Pereira been on the bench multiple times recently?
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I like Herrera but he is definitely a player who seems to have grown more and more in stature as he has been out.
Good player who will become important for us, but he doesnt have all the answers to all the issues right this second.
Regarding him not being in the team, I am confident it is just fitness and that LVG doesnt want to drop Fellaini for him in a 2-man midfield. If we revert to a 3-man midfield then I would love to see Fellaini, Herrera and Blind/Carrick together,
Good player who will become important for us, but he doesnt have all the answers to all the issues right this second.
Regarding him not being in the team, I am confident it is just fitness and that LVG doesnt want to drop Fellaini for him in a 2-man midfield. If we revert to a 3-man midfield then I would love to see Fellaini, Herrera and Blind/Carrick together,
He played in a BHC match against Blackpool last week.
Thorpe is right footed.
I'd agree with that, I definitely think van Gaal rates him but due to the tough opposition lately and Fellaini playing well he just hasn't been able to get him into the line-up.
LvG has said, regarding Falcao that he likes them to have a couple of comeback games before coming back into the first team, that is why I wondered if it would be a good idea for Ander to have another game tomorrow against Blackburn.
Shaw was on the bench and Van gaal was still saying that he wasn't fit enough, the same with Carrick and Falcao, i think that Van gaal is a weird human being with a very strange logic.
A lad I played amateur rugby with when I we as younger broke quite a few ribs during a game he was rushed to hospital mid game and had to undergo surgery he was out in a week he was back playing within 4 weeks.
Unless Ander broke his whole damn rib cage then there's no reason for him Not to be playing now. Unless the lad hasn't been drinking his milk for strong bones which will be slowing the repairs down
Christ. Take some Midol and have a lie down.
When Shaw was on the bench, I'm assuming that if need be he could play. Maybe he is strange but I'm just struggling to see why he'd put Herrera on the bench if he didn't think he was capable of playing say 15 minutes.
I totally get that but surely it's better having a kid on the bench who's fit than a senior player who can play no part?
He's not been on the bench since the Chelsea game.
Hah. We have fooled Liverpool. That guy got injured last week.
So 3 games?
He can still make prawn sandwiches making him more useful than Slippy.
I wonder if we've put him on an extensive weight training regime in this period post the rib injury. Would be a wise move while we wait for his injury to fully recover. Could do wonders for his mentality to toughen it up and give the stick back a bit like it did for De Gea.
think he has done well whenever he is on the pitch. it is understandable if van gaal chooses fellaini ahead of herrera though, especially for games which we need some physical presence.
at this moment i think herrera would suit us when we are playing at home, while fellaini when we are away.
at this moment i think herrera would suit us when we are playing at home, while fellaini when we are away.
Any concrete information on when he will play. He is costing me in my lineup predictor, and I missed his play style. (But not that we can say we missed him in terms of results, as defense seems heaps better compared to the Herrera di Maria midfield)
I wish he'd get on his twatter like Falcao and shut these constant transfer rumours down.
It's obvious Van Gaal has not been impressed by him so far. At least a LOT less impressed than most people on the caf.
Hopefully Hererra can turn things round but about time people faced facts and stopped looking for excuses (broken ribs) when the truth is much more simple.
Hopefully Hererra can turn things round but about time people faced facts and stopped looking for excuses (broken ribs) when the truth is much more simple.
The last thing you want to be doing with a rib injury is chucking weights about.
After reading through all the various theories, I believe the one that appeals to me most is the fact that we've had an absolutely torrid time at the back with injuries, fielding what could be our 19th and 20th choice combinations in theory, and LVG has decided has 2 DMs would allow us to cope better.
no white text?
On serious note- we know shit all for sure.
Not bothered about the rumors at all.
I am actually beginning to think that is the most reasonable explanation. Our fragile defence is hampering our attacking play. I can see a couple of them going in the summer, unless they can go on a run of no injuries.
Exactly, we are all speculating when we actually no nowt.
Sherlock.
Aye. I think it's partly because of how Herrera has done for us, although I think he has mostly been good and should be allowed much more time to adapt. He has shown glimpses of a very good midfielder and is way better on the ball than anyone we have. There's absolutely no way he should be behind Fletcher in pecking order and he's probably far better than Carrick right now too. On current form Fellaini deserves his place.
I also think this is largely because van Gaal wants Strootman badly so he's willing to cast Herrera out in order to generate funds and open up a space and justify Strootman's transfer, even it means letting Herrera go for half the money we bought him for only a few months back.
If that is true, it's another case of nepotism from LvG and nothing will happen in January. Strootman will need to prove his fitness to the end of the season. Not sure the board will be happy paying all that money for Ander for him not to be played, then losing loads on him just for LvG to pay Roma an arm and a leg for Strootman. Ander needs to play to prove his worth to us or another club. If he plays well why sell him. We will need a massive squad next season and could do with both of these players. There are other players I would rather have gone that this lad. If he goes and then Strootman breaks down, LvG will look a phenominal idiot.
I think its quite ridiculous to suggest LvG doesn't rate him. The chronology just doesn't add up.
He was doing well and playing when he was fit.
Then he got injured.
Then he went straight back into the team when he was deemed to be fit
Turned out he wasn't fit at all and got subbed off
In came Fellaini and has given very good performances in his place
Now unless someone is suggesting Herrera can play the Blind/Carrick deep lying role, there is no way you can conclude Herrera isn't rated by LvG, based on him not featuring recently.
He was doing well and playing when he was fit.
Then he got injured.
Then he went straight back into the team when he was deemed to be fit
Turned out he wasn't fit at all and got subbed off
In came Fellaini and has given very good performances in his place
Now unless someone is suggesting Herrera can play the Blind/Carrick deep lying role, there is no way you can conclude Herrera isn't rated by LvG, based on him not featuring recently.
Its the fact that Fletcher of all players comes on instead of him that drives me nuts!!!
To play a defensive role, for a few minutes, no? If he doesn't play over the busy run of fixtures coming up, then I'd be worried. But not yet.
I think with Ander, it’s just a case of competition for a starting place. For the moment it seems that we play with one defensive midfielder and two numbers 8. One of them is Rooney, so is undroppable, and the other is Fellaini. The man who gives us balance since the WBA game we have to admit, and as we saw against Arsenal, he’s the second shield with Carrick, and with this form it’s difficult to bench him to be honest
Well, as LVG said, we’re maybe less effective going forward, or less cavalier than we were against Leicester, Swansea etc, but we concede very few goals (exclusively thanks to De Gea in fact), but our defense is less exposed since we’re back in a 4-1-4-1.
I would prefer having Herrera in my team (and also Mata too), than having Fellaini and the current RVP. We would be far better technically and would retain the ball far better, but probably weaker defensively and more exposed. I just hope that this weekend we can add some touch to our game with Ander and Mata maybe and be back in a diamond with Rooney upfront, and Ander showing what a terrific footballer he’s
I hope that we can soon fix our defensive issues and be back playing real footballer that we have this year. (we used to have Cleverley Anderson in the midfield, now we have Mata and Herrera on the bench)
Well, as LVG said, we’re maybe less effective going forward, or less cavalier than we were against Leicester, Swansea etc, but we concede very few goals (exclusively thanks to De Gea in fact), but our defense is less exposed since we’re back in a 4-1-4-1.
I would prefer having Herrera in my team (and also Mata too), than having Fellaini and the current RVP. We would be far better technically and would retain the ball far better, but probably weaker defensively and more exposed. I just hope that this weekend we can add some touch to our game with Ander and Mata maybe and be back in a diamond with Rooney upfront, and Ander showing what a terrific footballer he’s
I hope that we can soon fix our defensive issues and be back playing real footballer that we have this year. (we used to have Cleverley Anderson in the midfield, now we have Mata and Herrera on the bench)
The same negative things were said about him not being a fan and not rating Luke Shaw, right?
Yep. Caf over-reacting shock horror.
LvG usually tells players if he doesn't want them, I would have thought if he has said this to Ander we would have heard something from the player himself on Twitter. Ander seems very relaxed and happy, so it is bullshit.
I understand that LvG okay-ed the deals for Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera before he started at United. And suddenly, he doesn't like him anymore, will swap him for Shaqiri, blah blah.
Media, eh?
what would he say? bye bye United
.... He isnt the type of guy to write these things on Twitter and van Gaal probably didnt tell him that he will leave, more likely that he has to improve to get back in the team like everyone else on the bench.It's bollocks, you don't rate your wide players, so get another one, keep the wide players you don't rate and give Bayern one of our best midfielders. I know who would be getting the best of that deal. Newpapers, you have to love them.
He will get his chance, that midfield is due for another injury or suspension. Be interesting to know if he has been as critical of RvP.what would he say? bye bye United
Also( I am in full rant mode here), yes we could do with a Strootman type players, but it is the defence that is the priority. We can cope with the midfielders we have very well. LvG should be concentrating on sorting the back out. If he isn't, that isn't great.
Bayern wouldn't want him, so I've no idea why you're all worrying about losing him to them.
why not? Thiago injured, Schweini too and doesnt get younger. Alonso pretty old too. They could do with a player like him.
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