Shaqiri really would be a Liverpool type of signing tho.
He isn't really the type of wide player we need too.
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Shaqiri really would be a Liverpool type of signing tho.
He isn't really the type of wide player we need too.
What about our vice captain?
Perhaps its more that Ander is in demand and Fellaini isn't. So if LVG can add a player he wants, he's willing to use him and use what he has left in CM
Sadly needs to become our former vice captain
Sadly needs to become our former vice captain
Napoli went in for Fellaini publicly IIRC at the summer and now with his form coming back can see decent interest. And we should have enough money to buy another if we want.
This all seems made up rumors as Herrera is out of the team right now. He got injured during which he had that one poor game and since then Fellaini has been playing well and keeping his spot. It also helped that we needed height and more physique in the team.
Yeah, I'm of the exact same opinion.
Shaqiri would be a great player for a lot of teams and I'm sure he would improve us up front.
However..
We have needed a creative CM good on the ball and that can score goals for a long time and we finally have it, unless he has a very good alternative lined up we shouldn't be getting rid.
He should be putting his focus into a defender now anyway.
I said yesterday Strootman might be his target and van Gaal might be willing to sacrifice Herrera to grant his wish.
£30million midfielder who can't even get ahead of Darren Fletcher 
, Dunno what he does in training these days, but I refuse to believe we've actually splashed that much money on someone we don't even use wdf?
I would like to see him have a run in the team now, but he needs to offer more protection to the defence, because second half against Leicester and West Brom he was shocking, but seeing as our midfield literally still can't control games, I think we need to give Herrera another run in the team to prove himself, I would also like to maybe see him further forward ahead of Fellaini and Carrick because no one in our midfield presses and it's annoying to see us over run every game.
, Dunno what he does in training these days, but I refuse to believe we've actually splashed that much money on someone we don't even use wdf?I would like to see him have a run in the team now, but he needs to offer more protection to the defence, because second half against Leicester and West Brom he was shocking, but seeing as our midfield literally still can't control games, I think we need to give Herrera another run in the team to prove himself, I would also like to maybe see him further forward ahead of Fellaini and Carrick because no one in our midfield presses and it's annoying to see us over run every game.
There's absolutely no chance LVG doesn't fancy him. It seems just like a similar situation to Shaw at the start of the season to me, except recovering from the rib injury rather than general fatigue.
Its hilarious people are taking an article written in the Express with any credibility whatsoever.
They wanted him on the cheap/on loan and didnt want to pay his wages. Else he'd be there now
Quite the contrast to a club like Bayern wanting to buy you
Is the ghost of Princess Di not a reliable transfer source?
He has to be lacking fitness/sharpness.
The Express ? What's the point in even discussing it.
Honestly, if LVG has lost faith in Herrera then ice lost faith in LVG.
Dramatic, but it's that stupid a decision.
Dramatic, but it's that stupid a decision.
This is precisely how bullshit propagates on the internet.
- A tabloid invents a click bait story out of thin air
- Someone posts it on a forum or social media
- Others discuss the merits as if its a legitimate story that warrants a degree of analysis.
- Like clockwork, at the beginning of the next summer window, someone will hark back to when we were "linked" with Shaqiri as if a bullshit fabrication by a rag is a real link
- Repeat and rinse.
Well we play Stoke 3 days later so maybe van Gaal might just rest Fellaini against Hull.
Or that VG thinks is better/only suited to play as an attacking midfielder. If that is the case, and with captain Rooney in the kind of form he is in, Herrera would find himself on the bench alongside Mata for a lot longer.
We started to get goals from midfield and lo and behold we are back to relying on Rooney to get the goals. Madness. RvP should be benched and Wilson is not ready yet for taking full responsibility for playing at CF. We need to strengthen at the back not another slightly above average winger with a not great attitude. Regarding physicality, there are plenty of players in this league who are built like Herrera. He just has to get used to the league like most new players. Hell, Victor Moses is built like a brick outhouse and he struggles with the physicality the way he is always falling flat on his face.
Also looking at the purchases Liverpool have made, I wouldn't want any player they were linked with.
It's also at home, so I would expect us to have more time on the ball against Hull. Not to mention Steve Bruce has always approached games against United a bit tentatively. He's one of the few managers left in the league who we can rely on to be wary against us now.
(now watch them attack us from the very first minute and win 3-2
)It would be that rib injury, I am guessing. He is training, but won't be 100% match fit to start games.
Herrera hasn't played as an AM for us - till now. And anyway, with the kind of form Fellaini is in currently (touchwood), and Herrara's ribs, guess LvG is taking the safest option right now, so as to give proper time for Herrera to heal and be fit.
Hey, I agree with you. The whole thing baffles me.
I can understand the need to strengthen down the midfield as we looked porous in the Leicester City game. Thought Herrera would be asked to play a more disciplined role, but seems like he has been given the shaft. How imposing is Cesc compared to him? Or was Scholes?
The Shaqiri rumors should be nothing but the usual crap.
We're playing Hull at home. If we're not going to start our best CM because Hull have powerful CM's of the calibre of Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore then Herrera might as well pack his bags.
Only United could sign a type of CM we've needed desperately for so many years only to drop him after a game where he shouldn't have fecking played.
Only United could sign a type of CM we've needed desperately for so many years only to drop him after a game where he shouldn't have fecking played.
There is something about our midfield that makes managers go mental. First Ferguson neglected the issue for several years while fielding Anderson, Cleverley, even O'Shea in midfield, then Moyes brought Fellaini who was clearly not up for the position last year and now van Gaal might have just decided to drop our first good midfielder since, well, Carrick, for no clear reason whatsoever and seems to place Fletcher over him.
I think it's just being safe, because he isn't a 100% fit after his injury.
Nah, I was buying that before Arsenal game, for him to not even come from the bench against Arsenal where we clearly needed to bolster the midfield was very strange. Maybe van Gaal wants him to improve certain areas of his game and won't start or play him until he does.
Well, he has been playing RvP and Fellaini time and again.
That's the problem, the club keep the fans so much in the dark over injuries. We don't know how bad a break it was, how much more damage the corset did against WBA, if the muscles got damaged as well, how much bruising there was. He keeps saying Ander wasn't what he called fit. He couldn't play, so he wasn't fit. It is not like Rojo who even though he has a dislocation, he can still run and keep fit that way. Ander would not be able to.
What has Fellaini done to not deserve his place?
He might want him to be more disciplined on the defensive side. There again Fellaini has no idea when people are running off him.
Fellaini does deserve to play, but with him and Carrick it slows the middle down and Ander is a better passer and gets us playing quicker. If RVP wasn't in the side, there would be room for both of them.
Why are you thinking that? I think it's very likely that he just isn't fit enough yet.
That's fair. If Herrera doesn't start against Hull then I think LVG may not rate him that highly, maybe he's waiting to combine him with Falcao, who knows?
I am not saying that he doesn't deserve his place. He has come leaps and bounds since the disaster of last season. I was just countering the fact that Herrera needs to learn some aspects of the game, because with him, our tempo was completely different compared to right now, and probably with Herrera in the team, it brought the best out of everyone.
He's on the bench, he's fit enough.
I think it is Rafael he has a great understanding with. Unfortunately Rafael cannot stay fit. If he comes back, we might see both of them.
It will be interesting to see who starts when everyone is fit. For me Herrera should be in our best 11, I'm starting to think LVG thinks otherwise.
Our tactics against Arsenal was to hurt them on counter attacks and we were doing okay. Fellaini was doing his job so why change it. Only player who didn't do his job was RVP and he came off for Wilson. Fletcher came on to protect our lead when Young was to tired.
People are making to much about Herrera not starting matches. He will be in first team sooner rather than later. ATM Fellaini is doing great and Rooney too. Herrera is competing with those two for his place in the first team in that formation. But i think he will get back in the first team as soon as we established regular back four. It is good that we gave him time to recover.
Don't think so, just on the bench for emergencies (Fellaini gets sent off and Carrick injured for example).
I sincerely hope he's actually injured and not been dropped because otherwise Van Gaal has lost it.
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