Bayern need to add another midfielder amidst injury crisis, they could certainly do with Herrera.
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Bayern need to add another midfielder amidst injury crisis, they could certainly do with Herrera.
All those injuries and they will still stroll the league.
Their injury crisis will ease, though. Schweinsteiger is back already. They'd hardly buy a midfielder just for a few months, especially an expensive one. Think they've already said as much anyway.
Nothing to worry about.
Schweinsteiger has had injury problems for a while and he's not getting any younger, ditto Alonso who's only a stop gap signing. They had to play Lahm out of necessity previous season if I remember correctly. Herrera won't be very expensive if we sell him six months into his contract after giving him a handful of games, probably half the money we paid for him to Athletic would suffice.
Sorry, but if Bayern do fancy him, all the reason not to sell him as too valuable to us. I wouldn't be doing them any favours especially if they are sending us a cast off winger.
People overreacting as usual, he's not Zidane.
Who is apart from Zidane?
That's why I don't even look at the papers now. Trouble is people will insist on posting the articles on here.
If LVG didn't rate him, why did he rush him back for the West Brom game? Or keep playing him before the injury?
It just doesn't add up.
It just doesn't add up.
Tom Cleverly.
Aaaah! Forget about that little gem.
They played Lahm in midfield because Guardiola likes him in midfield. I don't know why you think they'll buy when they've said they won't, but even if they did I'm sure they'd be wanting someone better than Ander Herrera. He seems to have got better since he injured himself. Since when was he good enough for Bayern?
I would love LvG to rip into the press about this on Friday. They just love to destabalise our squad.
I think this is where us not having any mid week games comes into play.. We would have had enough games to rotate all our players and keep such rumours at bay.. Hopefully with the FA cup starting he ll get a chance to play mid week,as Van Gaal is happy presently with Fellaini's performance and will not drop him at present..
Its selectively believing all the negative stuff that gets on my nerves!
Precisely my point. Players in form and fitness are being preferred*. Nothing wrong with that.
*Except RvP of course.
Also, as for the people talking about him needing to bulk up and all that nonsense. Just watch this video...
He's settled brilliantly into the PL. This bulking up nonsense is just the standard line trotted out when any smallish foreign player joins the league.
He's settled brilliantly into the PL. This bulking up nonsense is just the standard line trotted out when any smallish foreign player joins the league.
That video just shows why we miss him. He looks up everytime he has the ball for the best option. not just hit and hope balls. Not frightened to get stuck in. Isn't knocked off the ball as easily as people think. Better finishing from some players and he would have a lot more assists.
Yep. Our football has definitely suffered since he's been out of the team. I really miss the lad, he's been a joy to watch so far.
He will get some playing time in the next couple of games and provide us with some fluidity and link up play in midfield area. LvG is just waiting for Ander to be fully fit. As for the transfer rumours, I can see Fellaini and RvP being shipped out much much earlier, before it comes to Herrera. Its just the press doing their usual work: creating speculations.
Great video there, almost forgot about how good our passing looked before the Chelsea game. Herrera's not just creative, he's pretty good at winning the ball back.
And RVP seems so much more involved there than he's been recently. Would love to see this kind of football against Hull.
Iniesta.
Far better than Carrick? Seriously? Based on what, exactly?
Hererra seems to be this season's Kagawa. A reputation which is increasingly out of whack with what he's actually produced on the pitch.
Just like Kagawa, you can see the potential and I really hope he ends up becoming an important player for us. Meanwhile, the reasons behind the very high rating he already has with so many on here will remain a mystery to me.
Far better was an exaggeration but he's probably better than a 34-year old Carrick coming back from a long injury, yes.
He has been good this season. The only times he looked off the pace was against West Brom where he was rushed from the injury. The state our midfield is in he ought to be getting games, let's not forget that despite the win our midfield was largely non-existent against Arsenal the other day. He's the sort of player you're bound to dislike mind.
Why is that ? What's so dislikable about a cultured, high octane, technically proficient mid-felder who uses his brain before whacking the ball ?
Maybe not dislike but usually when there's a player most people like Pogue will feel somewhat reserved about him and it'll look like he dislikes/doesn't rate him.
The 30 odd million fee might have something to to with that, Pogue. Plus, the fact that we almost signed him before under Moyes. It's clear the club desperately wanted him. Rather Van Gaal felt the same is another story.
I do agree with you to an extent regarding the comparison to Kagawa though. Two clearly talented players with qualities that fans believe the team needs/needed, but nothing much shown on the pitch to show he can deliver yet.
He's a very likeable player. Both in terms of personality and the way he plays the game.
Needs to pass more consistently, be a bit stronger on the ball and be more aware defensively if he wants games in central midfield though.
Needs to pass more consistently, be a bit stronger on the ball and be more aware defensively if he wants games in central midfield though.
He's strong enough on the ball and he should never ever be used with no protection in midfield, he needs Blind or Carrick next to him or else it's pointless (preferably Blind as he offers more energy).
So you mean to say he is poorer than Rooney and Fellaini in midfield?
Aye, that's the 30 million quid question. Not a reflection on how good Hererra is at football but it's really odd the way Moyes was deemed a failure yet the club still showed that much faith in his eye for a new signing. Smacks of Woody being desperate to sign someone, anyone, after the damage to his reputation last summer. Very unlikely Van Gaal was the driving force behind this move.
Of course, that's not to say he won't turn out a good signing. Just strange the way it came about.
That's obviously Van Gaal's conclusion, yes. Right now, anyway.
Ah ok. Gotcha.
Anyway I'm a bit surprised that :
1) Ander's quality mystifies some people. He played a massive part in demolishing United's midfield 3 seasons ago with Martinez, was one of the (maybe couple dozen) best players in La Liga and raised him game at critical times vs Madrid and Barcelona. And he was out best performer alongside Blind and Di Maria until his injury and subsequent mediocre display at West Brom.
2) We have people jumping to conclusions about Van Gaal not rating Ander. Wasn't he supposed to really loathe Luke Shaw too (post his fitness related comments in the USA) ? Anyway it might just all be moot. We bought Ander for big money just 6 months ago, after breaking the poor man's heart once and then reigniting our interest this summer. He ain't going nowhere. Journos can piss off.
He scored twice and gave one assist in 4 starts (including West Brom), was the 2nd highest rated midfielder in the whole league (apart from Cesc) and brought the team's attacking dynamism up leaps and bounds in a departure from zombie passing.What more does one expect of someone making his debut in the league ? Like really, Jesus.
Reading the posts above has me thinking "aah sh*t,maybe he is the new Kagawa". And also the link to him being indentified as a Moyes pick(correctly) has me thinking "well Van Gaal always wanted Strootman".
The comparison with Kagawa is ridiculous. Kagawa had very mixed games over a very pro-longed period yet his good games made you believe.
At least let the lad have a few bad games before the "overrated" nonsense.
LvG isn't picking him so he must be overrated by the caf. Such insight
At least let the lad have a few bad games before the "overrated" nonsense.
LvG isn't picking him so he must be overrated by the caf. Such insight
No manager worth their salt would think he's underperformed so far. Not unless the manager has very unconventional requirements that he's not fulfilling, which is my concern here.
Another popular but untrue legend that has gathered momentum in recent months. Herrera was not a Moyes target. He was one of the players brought to David attention by erstwhile scouts who had been monitoring his (and Thiago's) progress since Spain's triumphant U-21 campaign in 2011 and (specifically in Ander and Martinez' case) - Bilbao fixtures vs United in Europa League. Fergie himself touched upon the issue in a fairly recent interview :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...der-Herrera-as-Manchester-United-targets.html
Sir Alex speaks of his aggression and work-rate in positive light. Yet suddenly he's not aggressive enough or not assertive enough to play in the league.
Amazing how we (LvG) can reach conclusions on players who are recovering from an injury!
In that case, Evans, Jones and Rafael should be the first ones out of the door in January.
He's more aware of his defensive duties than Fellaini. Fellaini's trademark defensive position is somehow finding himself on the wrong side of the man despite him supposedly being a DM.
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