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2014-15 Performances

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Ringo 07 said:
This. Herrera looked absolutely miles off the pace in most games he's played for us bar 1 or 2. I can't see him getting much football this season. Next season he should start to make an impact. I wouldn't pick him often if I was LVG this season
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No way. I thought he was our best player after Di Maria in the matches he has played. He goes forward and puts in a defensive shift.
 
nokillingmoths said:
No one worried about the Bayern rumours?
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Well to be fair, the only reason I'm not scared is because
1) Even we're not dumb enough to sell to Bayern without it being a swap deal or some sort
2) They're midfield is stacked anyway; they don't need another midfielder.
 
Ringo 07 said:
This. Herrera looked absolutely miles off the pace in most games he's played for us bar 1 or 2. I can't see him getting much football this season. Next season he should start to make an impact. I wouldn't pick him often if I was LVG this season
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Yes, and while we are at it we ought to loan Di Maria to Sunderland so he can get used to the new league. I think it will be 4 to 5 years before we can start playing Herrera week in week out.

This is nonsense. WBA was his only truly bad performance this season, otherwise he has been good for us. It is not really that often that footballers need a full year to adapt to the new league.
 
Why is he not playing though? Due to poor fitness or form? When he has played I've thought he is our most useful signing this season.
 
Jacob said:
Why is he not playing though? Due to poor fitness or form? When he has played I've thought he is our most useful signing this season.
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IMO van Gaal just decided he doesn't like him so he won't start. If there is a manager who can make bold decisions without feeling the need to explain them it is van Gaal. He had made similar decisions before.
 
Sarni said:
IMO van Gaal just decided he doesn't like him so he won't start. If there is a manager who can make bold decisions without feeling the need to explain them it is van Gaal. He had made similar decisions before.
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That is the thing i dont understand. If there was one player having no problems with van Gaal, it shoud be him. He is versatile, can play as a 10 or 8, relentless, technically very good and has experience with a similar system. I really dont get it why he suddenly fell in the pecking order.
 
It's like when he gave Shaw longer to get fit, people were saying he didn't rate Shaw. Same thing happening with Herrera. Realised he shouldn't have brought him back with the rib injury, now giving him time to get fit but just hasn't been able to bring him yet. Fellaini has been doing well.

Herrera will start v Hull, it's the perfect opportunity for him to come back. I am willing to take any bet on that.
 
Sarni said:
IMO van Gaal just decided he doesn't like him so he won't start. If there is a manager who can make bold decisions without feeling the need to explain them it is van Gaal. He had made similar decisions before.
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I dont believe this at all. I think after his injury and our injury problem hes being a bit more cautious about bringing him back too early. A cracked rib can take at least 6 weeks to really recover and given how bad he was against West Brom i understand that he might not want to risk him again.

Also lets not completely discount Fellainis good form for us. LvG seems like the type of manager who will pick players on form and telling other players to prove him wrong and fight for their place
 
izec said:
That is the thing i dont understand. If there was one player having no problems with van Gaal, it shoud be him. He is versatile, can play as a 10 or 8, relentless, technically very good and has experience with a similar system. I really dont get it why he suddenly fell in the pecking order.
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It is impossible understanding Van Gaal, to be fair. He is a great manager but he makes some really weird decisions (which may or may not be the right ones).
 
Cliche, I know, but I just think Van Gaal realized he needs that bit of power and physicality in the PL and Fellaini is the one providing it. There's simply no place for Ander in the starting XI right now. Simple as that.
 
the rumours from the sunday express about swapping him with Shaqiri are annoying me.I know rumours and all that, but the fact that they are out there for weeks now are just making me sick.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
It's like when he gave Shaw longer to get fit, people were saying he didn't rate Shaw. Same thing happening with Herrera. Realised he shouldn't have brought him back with the rib injury, now giving him time to get fit but just hasn't been able to bring him yet. Fellaini has been doing well.

Herrera will start v Hull, it's the perfect opportunity for him to come back. I am willing to take any bet on that.
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same here, £5 he wont start against Hull.
 
He scored goals and was sublime pre injury. The telling thing here is lack of substitute minutes. Protecting him from injury in my opinion.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
It's like when he gave Shaw longer to get fit, people were saying he didn't rate Shaw. Same thing happening with Herrera. Realised he shouldn't have brought him back with the rib injury, now giving him time to get fit but just hasn't been able to bring him yet. Fellaini has been doing well.

Herrera will start v Hull, it's the perfect opportunity for him to come back. I am willing to take any bet on that.
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If LVG is serious about giving players a good chunk time to prove themselves fit and ready to go, then he should have done the same to a certain Dutch striker here... basically throwing him on the bench if not in the reserves.

Our current approach has fecking no pace nor quick passes in midfield. We are trying to get rid of our zombie football and I'm not sure Fellaini, despite the solid performances he put recently, is the kind of player who would help us completing that transition into something more fluid.
 
The fact that the express are reporting he's off makes me think he'll sign a new contract this month even though he's in his first year.
 
I'm not that worried LvG doesn't want to play him. I think he is not 100% fit and LvG does not want to play him while he is not 100% fit. Also the moment he chose for a 3-5-2 formation, Herrera was benched. He lacks the physicallity at the moment to be of great defending use. So because of that Fellaini payed instead of him. Carrick and Di Maria are starters no matter what. In a 4-4-2 formation, there is room for Herrera. In a 3-5-2 there simply isn't.
 
He looked really good in preseason for us, and in the early stages of the season too. It's a tad unfair to extrapolate any conclusions about his physicality given that we don't have that many games to judge him on. Personally though, I think he seemed fit and strong enough for me to handle the league, seems like a real fighter and has that extra bit of quality. Really hope he takes the next chance he gets.

Not sure why we've put him on the bench if injury is the reason he hasn't played if we have/had zero intention of bringing him on. With Blind out I really think we can accommodate him, Fellaini and Carrick in the same team but yes a bit of rotation in the Hull game should see him get his chance.
 
There's no way he'll be involved in a swap deal. You can't judge a player after a handful of matches and so far he does look as though he'll be a good signing so this just doesn't make sense at all. Newspaper sensationalism once again.
 
Scarecrow said:
Cliche, I know, but I just think Van Gaal realized he needs that bit of power and physicality in the PL and Fellaini is the one providing it. There's simply no place for Ander in the starting XI right now. Simple as that.
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Well he really isn't. How many 50/50 tussles did he win against Ramsey, Oxlade, Wilshere, Arteta etc... Not many. He offers an aerial threat, sure, but he definitely isn't offering any real 'physicality'. I'd rather have Ander's bite and grittiness, to be honest. He's more than capable to play in the big, bad, mean premier league.
 
I'm not going on these reports but I don't think LVG rates him. Or at least he thinks we need something different in this league.

Which, if true, brings me back to my pet peeve. We apparently bought him based on the judgement of the last manager, who we deemed not good enough, and then asked LVG to sign off on it. I'm presuming he hadn't scouted him in that much depth prior so he trusted the judgement of the club. So if he now decides it was a mistake it'll just have been an utter waste of time and money. You either allow the manager to choose the players or not. This halfway house we operated during the summer where it appears he was getting players identified by the previous regime and also possibly players Woodward was doing deals for, like Falcao, just seems like it always had a high risk of going wrong.
 
Sarni said:
IMO van Gaal just decided he doesn't like him so he won't start. If there is a manager who can make bold decisions without feeling the need to explain them it is van Gaal. He had made similar decisions before.
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I'm sure Van Gaal can and does explain to Herrera what he likes and what he doesn't like about his game. Him liking or not liking a player is a matter of analysis, not of gut feeling. Than it's clear for the player what he needs to improve.

Surely he doesn't feel the need to explain it to the press, because he protects his players and his not going to tell the whole world about their weaknesses.
 
Brophs said:
I'm not going on these reports but I don't think LVG rates him. Or at least he thinks we need something different in this league.

Which, if true, brings me back to my pet peeve. We apparently bought him based on the judgement of the last manager, who we deemed not good enough, and then asked LVG to sign off on it. I'm presuming he hadn't scouted him in that much depth prior so he trusted the judgement of the club. So if he now decides it was a mistake it'll just have been an utter waste of time and money. You either allow the manager to choose the players or not. This halfway house we operated during the summer where it appears he was getting players identified by the previous regime and also possibly players Woodward was doing deals for, like Falcao, just seems like it always had a high risk of going wrong.
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SAF has said he was looking at him, so Moyes might actually have been going on his recommendation.
 
People supposedly think Van Gaal doesn't like him, yet he started every game while he was fit? It's a matter of fitness and finding the correct game to carefully bring him back. Fairly confident he'll feature against Hull.
 
Louis Van Gaal is preparing to capture his first January signing ahead of the opening of the transfer window with a deal for Bayern Munich attacker Xherdan Shaqiri.


The Switzerland international has been heavily linked with a move to the Premier League, with the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool all reportedly showing an interest in the winger.



According to the Express, United are set to secure the signing of Shaqiri by allowing summer signing Ander Herrera to move in the opposite direction. German giants Bayern are keen to add another central midfielder to play alongside Xabi Alonso and have expressed an interest in the former Athletic Bilbao star.



Injuries have hampered his progression at United since his £30 switch, and Pep Guardiola is close to sealing the switch which would see Shaqiri and £7m head to Old Trafford.



Van Gaal has already spent £150m since his arrival at United, and is prepared to continue bringing in talent from across the world to bolster his side.



Selling someone less than six months after buying them, plenty of patience at United obviously.


Another player in a position we don't need.

We have enough up front at the moment, we need to focus on the Defence and then still need another CM, not get rid of the ones we have...
 
XdanielredX said:
Louis Van Gaal is preparing to capture his first January signing ahead of the opening of the transfer window with a deal for Bayern Munich attacker Xherdan Shaqiri.


The Switzerland international has been heavily linked with a move to the Premier League, with the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool all reportedly showing an interest in the winger.



According to the Express, United are set to secure the signing of Shaqiri by allowing summer signing Ander Herrera to move in the opposite direction. German giants Bayern are keen to add another central midfielder to play alongside Xabi Alonso and have expressed an interest in the former Athletic Bilbao star.



Injuries have hampered his progression at United since his £30 switch, and Pep Guardiola is close to sealing the switch which would see Shaqiri and £7m head to Old Trafford.



Van Gaal has already spent £150m since his arrival at United, and is prepared to continue bringing in talent from across the world to bolster his side.



Selling someone less than six months after buying them, plenty of patience at United obviously.


Another player in a position we don't need.

We have enough up front at the moment, we need to focus on the Defence and then still need another CM, not get rid of the ones we have...
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Finally get a midfielder who looks like he can pass the ball forwards, and score a few goals, and then move him on after 4 months?! luckily it's the Express so it can be safely dismissed.

Wouldn't mind Shaqiri though.
 
I could see van Gaal going for that. Shaqiri is the sort of player he likes to have and he would fit a 433 perfectly. It would be silly though because if he gave up on Herrera now it means he was never a fan, why agree a £30m transfer he doesn't like? Shaqiri is not worth more than £15m now so we would make a significant loss. That and swap deals never happen.
 
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