What exactly does Fellaini bring to the team that Herrera doesn't? He's not better defensively, he's not better going forward, he's not even the better tackler and his movement is shite. I don't even buy this 'more physical' theory. Herrera like to get stuck in. You could argue he brings more when it comes to set pieces but that's about it.
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What exactly does Fellaini bring to the team that Herrera doesn't? He's not better defensively, he's not better going forward, he's not even the better tackler and his movement is shite. I don't even buy this 'more physical' theory. Herrera like to get stuck in. You could argue he brings more when it comes to set pieces but that's about it.
This thread overall, Jesus fecking Christ, it's almost as if Fellaini picked himself again.
What?
I'm not criticizing Fellaini. It's obviously not his fault he's in the team.
He doesn't shield, because he doesn't read danger or track runs. And Ander wins the ball in the middle of the pitch just the same as Fellaini does, in fact Carrick, Blind and Ander have all won more tackles than he has this season
He's capable of doing it when he's on his game, but often he'll switch into lazy mode and not bother.
He doesn't rate him. He'd rather this defensive lineup than play another CM for security.
We have been there before...Young, Valencia...
They have had shitloads of trouble against Fellaini in these first 15 minutes.
Herrera sits on the bench for Fellaini...
It's clear now, he's not injured anymore surely...
/sigh
It's clear now, he's not injured anymore surely...
/sigh
Physical presence apparently...
I dont think the personal is the problem today. Putting Herrera on for Fellaini in this formation wouldnt change much.
He's incapable. He should be able to learn but doesn't show improvement, even when we played him in the defensive role in front of the defence for a period of time
The same goes for the likes of Valencia at right back. He should be able to learn the basics of the role, but despite playing there plenty of times now he still doesn't do everything required
There are intelligent footballers, and then there are the other guys
I'd put him in the midfield and get RvP off. He might as well not be playing.
This.
It's not about putting him on for Fellaini - it's about putting him on with Fellaini. RVP is completely ineffectual and Rooney is playing some weird man-marking job on Arteta(!). How about: take RVP for Herrera, move Rooney up front next to Di Maria, and let Herrera come in to create a midfield three. Arsenal pretty much have a 5-man midfield, not to mention Welbeck comes deep a lot. So we've got 6 against two - two who happen to be very slow. Crazy tactics.
Yep. Rvp yet again is useless.
Hopefully the likes of him, Mata and Januzaj will get a run out against Hull.
Pretty annoying when Fletcher got the nod over him at the end. Is there any way we can field a team with both Herrera and Fellaini in it?
Can't blame him mate, he was on the bench.
He's basically too short to get in the team right now.
Has he slept with LvG's daughter?
I hope we see him against Hull.
I hope we see him against Hull.
So annoying watching him not start a single game knowing it's not the injuries. If Van Gaal is so intent on starting Fellaini, he has to drop Rvp for Herrera, simple as that.
I am starting to think LvG is protecting his injury by not revealing anything. He was sorely needed today and he's not played for quite a while. He's our best midfielder and we played some great stuff with him on the pitch.
Im guessing he is still not fully recovered from the rib injury?
No reason otherwise not to be playing him. We will likely see him against hull though. Hopefully Mata too because its precisely the type of match where you know we will need to unlock an 11 man defence.
No reason otherwise not to be playing him. We will likely see him against hull though. Hopefully Mata too because its precisely the type of match where you know we will need to unlock an 11 man defence.
Should've come on for RVP today, unless he's injured I don't understand why he's not getting a chance.
Yeah It could be, it's the one thing that he is not starting games, but he didn't even get a minute in the last few games. That's a bit strange to be honest.
Fellaini's physicality was more effective alongside Carrick than Herrera would've been imo. I'm guessing that was LvG's logic as well.
Fellaini played well. I'm not arguing about him starting, but I would've brought Herrera on as a sub after we went 1-0 up to add another body in midfield. Unless I'm mistaken, he's not played at all since the WBA game which is strange if he's not injured.
It's weird that we haven't seen him at all which is a shame because I think he's a great player. I wonder what's going on with him.
I think it's just because he's been injured and Fellaini has done well. Playing him today wouldn't of been wise due to him lacking fitness, especially after seeing how we played. I bet he'll return against Hull.
I feel for the lad.
Rib injuries take a very long time to heal. I am sure LVG doesn't want to rush him back too early.
I remember bruising my ribs twice and both times I needed 3 weeks before being able to run without pain,
much less a rib fracture that Herrera suffered.
I remember bruising my ribs twice and both times I needed 3 weeks before being able to run without pain,
much less a rib fracture that Herrera suffered.
I would give him a half against Blackburn in the Lancashire Senior Cup on Tuesday, Evans is supposed to be having a runout then.
Likewise. Be great to have him back. I really do think he'll feature at some stage against Hull. It's a better game to bed him back into.
DOnt panic people, he'll be back, Fellaini did good today and LVG probably thought he'd be more useful, but Herrera will be back in the next game I bet. DOnt think LVG doesnt rate him, its just people kneejerking just cause he isnt playing.
If he didn't rate him he wouldn't have tried to rush him back, also with all the injuries I think he is being especially cautious now in not bringing players back too quickly and then losing them for months. In a way the WBA game and Ander might have given LvG a bit of a fright regarding players fitness.
Exactly. It doesnt have to be Fellaini or Herrera,I want to see all 3 of them in there(Carrick as well).
Exactly. Plus we have been all right without him. Although I think he should play.
Lvg is cautios and given all these injuries he should be.
I have a question and hopefully someone can answer it.
Herrera is currently injured.
It'll be another few weeks till he is able to play 90 minutes.
The last game he played, he was subbed off because he was terrible (probably due to his injury).
So given this information, why are people expecting him to play?
People are also expecting us to play the injured Falcao...while he is injured.
Am I missing something?
Herrera is currently injured.
It'll be another few weeks till he is able to play 90 minutes.
The last game he played, he was subbed off because he was terrible (probably due to his injury).
So given this information, why are people expecting him to play?
People are also expecting us to play the injured Falcao...while he is injured.
Am I missing something?
He has been on the bench for the last 4 matches, he can't be that injured.
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