They're now reporting on the fact that more reporters have turned up. They're reporting on themselves. It's become self sustaining. It's like the Good Life, only with ambulance chasers instead of chicken farmers.
Amy Winehouse has passed away
- Thread starter KM
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Your all fecking hypocrites. A lot of your favourite artists and songs will be influenced by drugs ranging from cannabis to heroin.
If she died by overdose/drug use then yes its her own fault but to ridicule here is fecking ridiculous.
Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Dee Dee Ramone, John Entwistle, Brian Jones
to name a few all died with drug use but i dont hear anyone ridiculing them.
If she died by overdose/drug use then yes its her own fault but to ridicule here is fecking ridiculous.
Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Dee Dee Ramone, John Entwistle, Brian Jones
to name a few all died with drug use but i dont hear anyone ridiculing them.
Alright alright, calm down, calm down. Read the thread properly.
Her lifestyle probably was close to that of Janis Joplin.
not surprised really.
not surprised really.
There are far more tragic events going than this; this thread doesn't even deserve 1 reply.
Just noticed in the Daily Heil that they have a load of sympathy for Winehouse but are laying into Emily Lloyd down the page for her mental issues and dead career.
Of course there are more tragic events. This doesn't effect me but I have no problem with people leaving their respects to a well-known singer. Why should you? Do you expect people to be fixated on only serial killings?
And yet here you are posting in it.
The idea that the 'choice' to no longer be a drug addict is exactly the same as the 'choice' to not even start taking drugs in the first place (or the 'choice' to go and make a sandwich) is absurd on its face.
It's depressing how so few people recognize that at a certain point 'choice' and rational decison making becomes almost meaningless, because the numerous seemingly innocent decisions that were made originally only look like a huge mistake with hindsight.
Once an individuals mind has reached a certain point, blaming them for not making the same decisions that a perfectly rational individual should make is beyond idiotic, particularly as supposedly rational individuals without the same excuse make terrible decisions every single day.
It's a failure to understand causation and the fact that several seemingly innocent and reasonable decisions can lead to terrible consequences, including much worse decisions. The later, severely impaired decision making is a consequence of the original, fairly innocent decision making.
And that's the conundrum, because few people would believe that the original decisions were terribly blameworthy, yet they are quite prepared to heap blame on someone for the later decisions, even though it is quite clear that at that point the individual is no longer functioning as a rational human being.
Quite what the blame game achieves I have no idea, but it obviously makes some people feel superior, even if it's the functional equivalent of winning a 100m sprint against a two month old baby.
It's depressing how so few people recognize that at a certain point 'choice' and rational decison making becomes almost meaningless, because the numerous seemingly innocent decisions that were made originally only look like a huge mistake with hindsight.
Once an individuals mind has reached a certain point, blaming them for not making the same decisions that a perfectly rational individual should make is beyond idiotic, particularly as supposedly rational individuals without the same excuse make terrible decisions every single day.
It's a failure to understand causation and the fact that several seemingly innocent and reasonable decisions can lead to terrible consequences, including much worse decisions. The later, severely impaired decision making is a consequence of the original, fairly innocent decision making.
And that's the conundrum, because few people would believe that the original decisions were terribly blameworthy, yet they are quite prepared to heap blame on someone for the later decisions, even though it is quite clear that at that point the individual is no longer functioning as a rational human being.
Quite what the blame game achieves I have no idea, but it obviously makes some people feel superior, even if it's the functional equivalent of winning a 100m sprint against a two month old baby.
They eventually started to make a mockery out of the Norway tragedy by over reporting it. There's only so much to say you cnuts.
Why do people come out with these bizzare statements.You don't cast off all other tragic events in favour of the one that's caused the most deaths. What you do, is take in each of them.
SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk
Sky Sources: Amy Winehouse died from a suspected drug overdose
Sky Sources: Amy Winehouse died from a suspected drug overdose
Good post.
I think these are very immature responses from people who don't understand addiction.
She like many artists was perhaps 'troubled' but that doesn't mean that we should not 'care' or see her as an individual we shouldn't have sympathy for.
In fact it saddens me that in the face of a tragic death people can be this cold.
Couldnt agree more. thats speaking from personal experience of a friend dying from an overdose
Just about everyone suspects that already tbf.
Be interesting to see what a reaction to Cobain's suicide would've been to some of these people...And if some of the same peeps showed "no sympathy. It was his choice, doesn't deserve replies" etc etc..After all, that would've been far more his choice than a (presumed) accidental overdose.
what else can reporters do on the weekend with 24 hours to fill.
Is Murdoch a suspect yet?
Is Murdoch a suspect yet?
Baseless assumption ...
Hardly baseless, perhaps you don't listen to artists that experiment in mind altering substances. (doubt it though)
But many do.
Even if your restrict you listening to 'The Sound of Music' you're not safe from the druggies.
The way you just generalized it though, it's weird.
Firstly that wasn't me.
Secondly, why come in to a thread about someones death and start a semantic argument? To me that is the behaviour of someone who is weird.
27 is no age at all to be dying, great talent gone to waste.
Addiction is a horrible thing but you have to do something by choice before becoming addicted to it.
Not sure where i'm going with that as it's basically a captain obvious statement.
Not sure where i'm going with that as it's basically a captain obvious statement.
More like someone who's really bored and sorry for "accusing" you.
One flaw is that I hate redundancy.
Also, what does that have to do with her dying predictably of an OD? I'm not saying it isn't sad, but it's not something I'm going to shed tears over. It's a massive waste of talent, but so are many other young people dying.
Explain to me how my post is immature. Where have I said we shouldn't have sympathy for her?
You don't cast off all other tragic events in favour of the one that's caused the most deaths. What you do, is take in each of them.
This is a selfish woman who had it all yet injected it all down her vains despite having zillions of chances to sort her life out. Having experienced what this does families & friends from close by I have zilch sympathy for her.
I would also find it hard to sympathize with a heroin junky who had access to the pinacle of modern drug treatment, only to throw it away. It is hard to sympathize, that's not to say I feel nothing at hearing of her death, and also has nothing to do with understanding drug addiction. I have more sympathy for the people she left behind, who saw her come to this end, despite the help and treatment that was available to her.
Have very little sympathy for her. She choose to lead that life and now her family are suffering for it.
More comments have been made about this girl's death by my facebook friends than about the Norway massacre. People care too much about celebrity these days imo.
Not saying her death isn't a shame just pointing out the disparity in the amount of comments I've seen.
Or maybe I just need a better class of friend.
Not saying her death isn't a shame just pointing out the disparity in the amount of comments I've seen.
Or maybe I just need a better class of friend.
Any sympathy that I have is with her parents and family I cant imagine how it is to lose a child and hopefully never will, Talent and a voice she had but at the end of the day she chose to drink to excess and take drugs, she made her choice then.
Not sure it's your friends. More the sub-set of your friends that regularly use Facebook/Twitter - a cohort with more than the usual fixation on celebrity. Mine are the same fwiw. Thankfully, the majority of my friends never post on there.
I always feel weird when a celebrity dies. I'm not even particularly saddened by it, it's just...weird.
Anyway RIP. She's not the first and she won't be the last to throw it all away like this.
Anyway RIP. She's not the first and she won't be the last to throw it all away like this.
I don't agree with that at all. I have personally seen people be in the situation that Winehouse was in and had far less support than her but still made the hard decision to fight their addiction(s). She didn't even attempt to fight it and made her stance public too.
This is someone who had access to the best care both psychologically and physically, the type of care that millions would absolutely kill for, yet couldn't be bothered and most importantly didn't care.
If she doesn't care about her own well being, then I think you can forgive people for not really caring too much about her death.
I personally liked her music but I'm not surprised by her death or feel any real sympathy.
R.I.P all the same.
RIP
Sad news
Sad news
I think the death of a celebrity just feels more 'real' to most people than the deaths of people they know nothing about. Obviously the Norway Massacre is a tragedy on a much bigger scale but to people that weren't directly affected it can seem abstract. As the numbers get bigger even more so...its just impossible from a distance to comprehend the level of human suffering that resulted from the Japan earthquake and tsunami for example. With someone like Amy Winehouse who was in the news so much some people have the sense, however illusory, that they knew her.
Its very sad, I dunno but should mods make from where the bump was a new thread (think it was KM who bumped it)?
Because the 1st few pages obviously do not do her much justice
Because the 1st few pages obviously do not do her much justice