What about if 60 senators backed it, and Boehner grew a pair and just put it up for a vote? (He was supposedly in on the talks so I'm guessing this is part of the deal).
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What about if 60 senators backed it, and Boehner grew a pair and just put it up for a vote? (He was supposedly in on the talks so I'm guessing this is part of the deal).
I'm not sure about holds they can put on it procedurally. Reid could change the rules to eliminate a filibuster, I guess.
60 votes invokes cloture, ending a filibuster. The problem is the House, not the Senate.
Apparently Boehner wasn't there so that could still feck it up. Although, if a large number of Senators back it (pretty sure 60 stops a potential filibuster), there'd be huge pressure on the House to get it through or face hell.
Republican congressman King was severely critical of Cruz on CNN today. It's always good to see the cracks showing in the GOP.
we will default.
only saw less than a minute of this last night so I'm not sure who was worse in this one but Piers' attitude was offputting.
Obama and Dems showing balls for once, rejecting the House plan which postponed the medical equipment sales tax. Allowing the Repubs anything here would set a very dangerous precedent.
agreed. they've forced this situation, let them sort it out.
Dems looking to 2014 and total control.
The latest Republican House bill looks dead, presumably Tea Partiers wouldn't back it. You'd hope they now realise they can't be negotiated with, kick them into touch and just work with the Democrats. You'd hope...
And to let INSANE freshmen take over the house...that's the GOP.
F*ck the GOP they have been taken over by the Koch's and their lackeys and Obama needs to continue to stay strong so these money grabbing arseholes implode
The reason Boehner and Cantor dare not upset the TeaParty caucus is, if they bring a clean bill for a vote, they will get primary challenges. Still, for the good of the country they should not allow a Default to be threatened. They need to put the country first...like McCain's slogan.
Looks like something really is happening now (hopefully not speaking too soon this time), Cruz is apparently being timid for once and Repub moderates are sticking the boot in. Boehner reportedly going to put it to vote as well.
Boehner needs to take lessons from Pelosi about being a leader.
2014 is going to be fun for the GOP.
Boehner finally giving in. I will quote him though with my own spin on it. "We have fought the incredibly stupid, useless, pointless fight, we just did not win, not that we ever stood a chance."
every year they talk tough, force a shutdown (or almost do) then they make last minute deals to avoid default.
of course the meeja laps it up.
rinse and repeat.
of course the meeja laps it up.
rinse and repeat.
The GOP were more than willing to ride the tea party wave in 2010. Now they are watching their party split. Meanwhile I don't think the Dems have ever been as united as recently.
Ya gotta wonder how much different the USA would be if these kind of simple social programs of this nature were implemented instead of angry Republicans douchebags wanting to cut every social program they can and build 100s of more insanely costly prisons.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/16/homeless-man-who-created-app-arrested-for-sleeping-on-bench/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/16/homeless-man-who-created-app-arrested-for-sleeping-on-bench/
So the tea party who are far right have come and split the GOP with their views. The Democrats are looking to get back the house and the senate. How well doe Obama's policies sit with his party. Obama would have chickened out if this was in his first term.
Anyone here watched the West Wing? Everything I know about US politics is from that show.
Anyone here watched the West Wing? Everything I know about US politics is from that show.
Maybe Oompah Loompahs are government run and he was getting pressure from his family
Looks like the Senate passed the bill somewhat overwhelmingly 83-16 (I'm guessing Ted Cruz abstained).
The Republicans will take a massive hit for this in the mid terms.
The Republicans will take a massive hit for this in the mid terms.
House approves, almost 2/3rds of repubs voted no.
I notice Ryan voted against it in the House, and obviously Rubio, Cruz and Paul did in the Senate. Any big 2016 candidate vote yes? Or are they all arse-covering?
Maher:
Republicans: 'we fought the good fight' - yeah, it woulda been worth it if we could have prevented just one poor kid from getting a free inhaler.
Republicans: 'we fought the good fight' - yeah, it woulda been worth it if we could have prevented just one poor kid from getting a free inhaler.
I'm hoping the moderate Republicans in the house don't lose their seats to batshit Tea Party candidates during the primary. They are hell bent on getting their agenda through at the expense of anything else. Like a default for example.
erm what??
I'm not lumping a Peter King together with Ted Cruz. I'd hate for more Tea Party members to join the house.
listening to the radio this morning and ordinary people's stories about how this BS has affected their lives. Some real damage done to working class families and these bozos in Washington could care less.
Of course there was the odd one that praised Cruz for holding out so long, but stupid is as stupid says.
Of course there was the odd one that praised Cruz for holding out so long, but stupid is as stupid says.
The majority of Republicans in the house voted for the country to default. amazing.
They are more scared of losing office than driven to do what's best for the country.
Democrats will already be creating ads for 2014. "If you want the country to default or the government to shut down...vote GOP."
Oh dear..
Bizarre.
Bizarre.
I'm surprised the republicans are at a 24% approval rating, considering they nearly destroyed what is left of the world economy because of their arrogance.
'Syria are fighting a civil war, in which Syria are bombing Syria.'
I literally understood about 5% of what she said.
I literally understood about 5% of what she said.
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