Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch

For reference

21 yo Dan James for Swansea = 2815 min, 5 goals, 10 assists
20 yo Amad Diallo for Sunderland = 2839 min, 12 goals, 4 assists

This while Amad is light years ahead technically
 
And Dan James was also able to be quite a useful squad player for United. So.

Assuming Greenwood isn't coming back, I think we need Amad next season. Elanga and Pellistri should be the ones moving out on loan.

That's exactly my point. Amad need another PL loan to play regularly week in week out for his own benefits/development. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine if he come back and be a squad option. But this may not be the best for him.

I think he has big potential and high ceiling as a player. He is getting regular playing time now and developing well. He should continue this development next year. His development suffered when he play as squad option roles for Man Utd and Rangers.
 
That's exactly my point. Amad need another PL loan to play regularly week in week out for his own benefits/development. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine if he come back and be a squad option. But this may not be the best for him.

I think he has big potential and high ceiling as a player. He is getting regular playing time now and developing well. He should continue this development next year. His development suffered when he play as squad option roles for Man Utd and Rangers.
I think realistically if he performs at the level he's at, there's plenty of opportunity to get sufficient game time to not stunt his development. Antony seems to have stamina issues as he's always seems to be pulled at around the 60-70min mark and often picks up little injuries that Amad can deputise for. I see this as a better option than another loan. I think if we're not seeing him handle the step up at that point, we probably need to consider a sale rather than running his contract down on a neverending spell of loans.
 
Typical, turned it over to Blackburn-Millwall and he goes and does that after doing nothing of note beforehand.
 
If he gets chances I think he ends the season first choice RW next season
 
Surely he has to be given a shot next season. It would be absolute criminal. Imagine Diallo and Garnacho in the squad next season. We'd be a different proposition.

Just imagine if he gets Sunderland back in the Prem.
 
Surely he has to be given a shot next season. It would be absolute criminal. Imagine Diallo and Garnacho in the squad next season. We'd be a different proposition.

Just imagine if he gets Sunderland back in the Prem.
Would be just about as criminal as spending £81 million on a new right winger, oh no wait that was last summer.
 
I will say, no matter if he ends up succeeding at United or not, fair play to our scouting team for once. However much we spent on him seems worth it
 
For whatever reason, I don’t think he will get the chances needed to thrive here. Clearly a great player in the making though if he keeps up this trajectory.
 
Surely he has to be given a shot next season. It would be absolute criminal. Imagine Diallo and Garnacho in the squad next season. We'd be a different proposition.

Just imagine if he gets Sunderland back in the Prem.
Garnacho- Pellestri - Amad
Seems a great combination, especially with someone like Kane or Osimhen up top :drool:
 
Hopefully we keep him next season. He’ll offer more then martial and sancho has that’s for sure.
 
For whatever reason, I don’t think he will get the chances needed to thrive here. Clearly a great player in the making though if he keeps up this trajectory.
If he doesn't then this club deserves no success. It was obvious from day one how talented he is and should've been well integrated by now if it wasn't for Solskjaer's stubbornness to sign Sancho, Rangnick's hard on for physicality and Ten Hag's persistence to drop over £80 million on Antony.
 
Been surprised at how good he’s been. Should be in the first team squad next season. It’s a big step up but so many players have stepped up from the championship to the Pl in recent time. He’s far more decisive than Anthony too so could actually be a step up.
 
For whatever reason, I don’t think he will get the chances needed to thrive here. Clearly a great player in the making though if he keeps up this trajectory.
Hopefully he will go on tour. If there are players missing due to international duty during the summer he should get some time, then it is up to him. Impress the manager and he will have to keep him around.
 
The lad has flourished on loan at Sunderland - will have given him a real steel to his game as well. I’d have him starting in a heart beat over Anthony and Sancho. I don’t want him recalled next season if it means he just sits on the bench all season whilst watching the Brazilian ferris wheel do his tricks on the bye line which result in nothing. I’d rather, esp if Sunderland get promoted, that he stays with them on loan for a season in the PL.
 
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Did he make the team of the season for championship? Was he close or robbed??
He didn't make it. Don't think he was robbed, not that I watch the championship but it's not like he was tearing up the league, his team barely made playoffs just today finally sneaking in, etc. He's had a very good season but he's started 27 of 46 league matches for example, and has 13 goals and 3 assists. He provides a lot outside of that, but it took him a while to get used to the physicality and to be ready to play somewhat regularly. Which is what the question always is with him - how will he adapt to faster pace leagues, less time on the ball, greater physicality. That's why it's ultimately still a risk to not loan him next season. Would be very tempted to loan him again next year, but in the Prem as when he does play and is on it, he looks too good, but he has other games where he's quiet.
 
Would be just about as criminal as spending £81 million on a new right winger, oh no wait that was last summer.

Ten Hag wanted Antony at the start of the window when Ajax would've likely accepted less than 60m. It's not his fault Murtough dithered and ended up overpaying for him 2 months later.
 
Ten Hag wanted Antony at the start of the window when Ajax would've likely accepted less than 60m. It's not his fault Murtough dithered and ended up overpaying for him 2 months later.
We had Amad, Sancho and Pellestri for the right wing spot. We shouldn't have been after a new right winger after investing in that position in the previous two windows when the midfield needed a complete rebuild, along with the need for a new striker. You're right though, that blame falls on Murtough too no question.
 
We had Amad, Sancho and Pellestri for the right wing spot. We shouldn't have been after a new right winger after investing in that position in the previous two windows when the midfield needed a complete rebuild, along with the need for a new striker.
We had Ronaldo at the beginning of the season who still looked competant even with him wanting to go. Diallo hadn't had the best loan spell at Rangers and Pellestri was nothing to write home about. Moreover Sancho is better suited to the left.
 
Ten Hag wanted Antony at the start of the window when Ajax would've likely accepted less than 60m. It's not his fault Murtough dithered and ended up overpaying for him 2 months later.

Why do people keep saying this?

We would have got him earlier but for the FDJ chase. That's what held the deal up as Frenkie was going to set us back 100m as well.

I don't think we'd have ever signed both. If we'd have got FDJ I reckon Erik would have made do with the wingers we already had.

And Pellestri wouldn't have done any worse than Antony has done either as he's hardly set the bar high at all. A total waste of money.
 
We had Ronaldo at the beginning of the season who still looked competant even with him wanting to go. Diallo hadn't had the best loan spell at Rangers and Pellestri was nothing to write home about. Moreover Sancho is better suited to the left.
There was still a need for a new striker, albeit not as urgent as it is now. We could've let Ronaldo go given he wanted to go and spent the £80 million on a striker instead? Amad actually played well at Rangers in the opportunities he was given, he was just badly managed by van Bronckhorst, losing his trust after he had a bad game at Celtic park and then them hitting form after that game without him in the side. Pellestri had a bad loan but it's more the point that you have 3 young very talented right wingers to use vs the holes in the side elsewhere, and we still end up sinking £80 million on a new right winger, it's terrible squad management.
 
There was still a need for a new striker, albeit not as urgent as it is now. We could've let Ronaldo go given he wanted to go and spent the £80 million on a striker instead? Amad actually played well at Rangers in the opportunities he was given, he was just badly managed by van Bronckhorst, losing his trust after he had a bad game at Celtic park and then them hitting form after that game without him in the side. Pellestri had a bad loan but it's more the point that you have 3 young very talented right wingers to use vs the holes in the side elsewhere, and we still end up sinking £80 million on a new right winger, it's terrible squad management.
Hindsight is 20/20, I would still say that there was a need for a right winger, we could have got another player or paid less but I don't think it was a waste to go after one. ETH chose someone he knew well, I mean it worked with Martinez.