I’m sure there have been other young footballers who have had a few poor reasons in the beginning of their careers.
Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch
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I’m sure there have been other young footballers who have had a few poor reasons in the beginning of their careers.
I don't know which players you mean. I'm not looking at Sancho as a young player fresh out of the academy or just starting out in his career.
- Cost £75 million as a marquee signing
- paid £350,000 per week (top 5 in the league)
- made 230 appearances at senior level (equivalent to 5 seasons of appearances and similar number to Mahrez when he got his City move)
- 2 X league team of the season
The thing is he’s not responsible for the bolded part. But I agree that next season we need to see big improvement from him.
If he does come back next season I hope people will be patient with him and not expect him to light the league up immediately
Yeah absolutely
I'm sure football fans in general and especially United fans on this forum will be very patient and forgiving to him.
We should sign him.
It's been a brilliant loan spell for him. Regular game time, had great impact, confidence growing. A bit of a shame Sunderland won't make it to the PL so he can extend the loan for another season. Maybe Carrick will get in the PL and would take him? Who knows.
We don't need to send him out again. He's at the age when he should be in competition to Antony for the right wing or even to Bruno for nuber 10. Maybe we could send Pelestri to Sunderland next year and see if he has a similiar impact
Why won’t they? I think they are still in the run for the play off place
why not bring him back as our atony competition? Plenty of games to play. Rashford/garnacho left, antony/amad right, with sancho being able to fill in anywhere. Seems a perfectly valid number to go in with and means we dont have to worry about signing anybody in those spots.
That’s what 95% of people in this thread have been saying.
Or maybe he could light the league cup up?
meh i see at least 10-15 percent saying should be loaned out again. And was more of me throwing out a rhetorical question out there haha
It's entirely in their hands now, probably need 4 points from the next 2 games to ensure their position in the playoffs.
Tony Mowbray is the real MVP.
After Bruce, he's the top candidate for our 'send-him-the-youth-as-they-will-definitely-play' manager
After Bruce, he's the top candidate for our 'send-him-the-youth-as-they-will-definitely-play' manager
If Sunderland get promoted I wonder if sending him back on loan at Sunderland next season would be a good move to make.
100% if they do. He hasn't played much top level football, the more he can get the better.
My info was outdated. Last I checked, Sunderland were few places away, sitting at 8th or 9th. I just had a look last night and realized they're back in the play-off spots with only 2 games to go.
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If Antony was less erratic in his forward contributions and Bruno wasn't playing 60+ games a season, maybe, but I think we need someone to challenge the former and give the latter a few breaks during 'easier' games or after 60 mins, even with his engine. Pellistri is the one who seriously needs to get loan time, so if we could get him to a promoted Sunderland or Middlesbrough, with a break agreement should he not be getting enough game time by January, that might work better
They are currently in 6th place so they have a chance.
I agree that he'd benefit from a loan to a Premier League club next season though.
Burnley under Kompany could be another potential good fit too?
Garnacho was seeing plenty of game time prior to his injury. Amad should come back to us next season.
He has to stay here next seson
People advocating for him to have a Premier League loan feels a little off.
In the Championship, you can make mistakes as an attacking player. There are far more transitions and attacking players are trusted to be effective under those terms.
In the PL, promoted sides simply don’t/can’t afford to have attacking players take risks and give the ball away, mainly because of how little they see of the ball.
That’s not to say that he’s sloppy or anything. Just that playing for a top 8 Championship side and a relegation threatened Premier League side provides completely different environments. There’s also the fact that there are loads more games down there. It’s always going to be a better loan environment in my opinion.
In the Championship, you can make mistakes as an attacking player. There are far more transitions and attacking players are trusted to be effective under those terms.
In the PL, promoted sides simply don’t/can’t afford to have attacking players take risks and give the ball away, mainly because of how little they see of the ball.
That’s not to say that he’s sloppy or anything. Just that playing for a top 8 Championship side and a relegation threatened Premier League side provides completely different environments. There’s also the fact that there are loads more games down there. It’s always going to be a better loan environment in my opinion.
Tony Mowbray is the real MVP.
After Bruce, he's the top candidate for our 'send-him-the-youth-as-they-will-definitely-play' manager
He also got this eye for standards. Demanding more from Amad when he first arrived is encouraging trait from a manager.
Perhaps he knows PL quality players and knows how to push those players.
Pellistri is ready for the prem I think. I'd love to see him for a year at Fulham.
I guess it really does depend on what ETH plans to do with him. If he’s going to get some meaningful game time here, then bring him back. That would be my hope, as I just love to watch the kid play.
If he’s not going to play a significant role here, leave him at Sunderland, especially if they do win promotion. He, and eventually we, would benefit more from that in the long run rather than having him warm the bench— IF we’re not going to play him next season.
If he’s not going to play a significant role here, leave him at Sunderland, especially if they do win promotion. He, and eventually we, would benefit more from that in the long run rather than having him warm the bench— IF we’re not going to play him next season.
I reckon and also hoping a PL loan for him next season is on the cards .
As much as this loan has been perfect for him this season, i’m not convinced he should go back to Sunderland next season. If they stay in the Championship they won’t provide him with the platform to take the next step, he needs a better league. On the other side, if they promote to PL, they would very likely be playing quite different football than this season, and i don’t think Amad fits as good in a striggling lower table side, as he does in an attacking side.
If loaned next season i’d prefer a better league than Championship, but for a top 6 club.
If loaned next season i’d prefer a better league than Championship, but for a top 6 club.
The whole issue with Amad was physicality. Struggling lower table sides aren't cloggers any more. They tend to just play with a back 3 and still attempt to play football, so I think it's best to play in a side he's been playing in and comfortable, rather than just a new style and new players. That being said, unsure if mowbray will be there, so there is still that risk even at Sunderland.
No, but they mean it's plainly ridiculous to see Sancho as "a young player in the beginning of his career".
Ideally we really need him to be able to make the step up to join the squad next season and offer competition/rotation with Antony. Our attack is so unbalanced only having one attacker that can play that inverted role from the right.
I keep repeating this, being a star player for Sunderland in championship is a very big different with playing regularly for Man Utd in the world most demanding and competitive league. If I remember correctly Dan James was also one of the best players in championship.
The point is for his own benefits he should be loan to a PL club next season to play regularly for his development. RW we already have Antony, Sancho and maybe Greenwood.
The point is for his own benefits he should be loan to a PL club next season to play regularly for his development. RW we already have Antony, Sancho and maybe Greenwood.
Dele Alli is the closest I can think of although he obviously wasn't signed for as much he developed into a star player and then fell off a cliff relatively quickly. Can't remember exactly how many poor seasons he was allowed though.
No, Dan James wasn't one of the best players in the Championship. He was just quick. Amad has been far better than James and is younger than what James was at that time. Just a different level of talent.
Despite being very talented, Sancho isn't pulling up any trees and who knows what will happen with Greenwood. The right side should be a battle between Amad and Antony next season.
And Dan James was also able to be quite a useful squad player for United. So.
Assuming Greenwood isn't coming back, I think we need Amad next season. Elanga and Pellistri should be the ones moving out on loan.
That's definitely not true. Dan James was famous for being rapid in the Championship. I think a better example would be Jared Bowen or Michael Oliseh who were two of the best attacking players in the Championship before their PL buys and both would have been deserving of regular minutes for United over the years, if maybe not being starter level, which is exactly what is being suggested for Amad. Also, if you look at the technical quality of Amad and DJ, there is no comparison. James was too reliant on his pace in the Championship and was incredibly one dimensional on the ball but in the PL I regularly saw him getting run down and swatted away like he was a little child.
We’re desperately short of options, I’d give him a shot in the first team and if he doesn’t cut it then make a decision from there.