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Of course the bookies make those odds based on the likelihood that we'd put in a competent side - so yes, if we approach the game professionally, it's very unlikely. I suppose I'm saying let's keep it that way for the first 45 mins.
Exactly right.
We'll call one goal difference nervy territory, that's still 30/1 even after the possibility of a weakened team has been priced in. I'm just saying these situations are notorious for giving youth players a start, vs 34 year old Monreal at LB this will be one of the best opportunities for Diallo this season.
The possibility of us playing a weakened side has already been priced in..
The old "I don't agree with you so I'll write off your opinion as rubbish as I'm the fount of all football wisdom", well done to you Sir.
Playing a team of kids? Sure. Playing 1 18 year old who’s already played in a CL and Serie A match? I don’t think it’s risky at all.
It's actually funny. Not just any 18 year old, kid a 37 million pound one. Imagine not trusting him to start a game that we have a 4 goal advantage. If he doesn't start this game when do you start him ? I'm sure we didn't spend 37 m on an u23 player.
That’s what I’m saying, he’s had 3 reserve matches to get match fitness, this is the least pressure match we could possibly give him. If he doesn’t get a chance now then when?
Well, he is the Manager and key decision maker and I assume he's the person in charge of team selection and tactics. I'm not sure what you expect, more threads about Nicky Butt, Michael Carrick ?
Probably next season when he's physically more ready to handle men's professional football. We didn't buy him as a player who had experience in the first team elsewhere. He pretty much only had experience in youth teams. He's played an hour of total first team football over a year. He has huge potential, but physically players have to be ready to handle it. Whether it's stamina, strength, work rate, whatever. The jump from reserves to senior level is huge and players have to be ready for it. If Ole feels he physically isn't ready for it, he won't do it. Look how much Greenwood has grown since the start of last season until now. He got eased in until he could handle it more.
This isn't the premier league, and Sociedad are hardly a big strapping Tony Pulis side.
Yes for sure he is less physically capable than James. Dan James is fast as feck, can run all day, is used to getting fouled all the time and is really fit physically so he can handle it. He's quite strong too. And Mata is in his 30's, he is at the end of the career and has been playing with men for a long time. Playing youth too soon can be a risky thing as they can get kicked around and injuries can come up very quickly if they aren't physically ready to be kicked around. Shoretire for example only played a few minutes but seemed nowhere near being actually ready for normal game time from a physical perspective. You need aggression, bravery, and the strength. Comes with time.
You act like Real Sociedad are Stoke on steriods, they were absolute pussy cats last week. Nacho Monreal is hardly a hatchet man either!
It is still men and not kids. It's a different game. The promotion isn't straightforward which is why so many fail to step up. It doesn't matter if it's a 2nd league team, it's a bit change from youth level.
EFL trophy is generally against even lower opposition.
Lower leagues in England are usually a lot more physical than European competitions or even the premier league.
So if we put out our strongest side and I put down 100- I’ll get 8,000?
The impatience has more to do with us all waiting to see a natural right winger again after 5 or 6 years of players like Lingard and Mata doing a weak job there. The pressure is down to the people that decided to sign two equally inexperienced 18 year olds to fill our weakest position after all this wait, not the fans.What I’d give for a foto of Tony Pulis with a syringe behind a Nach Monreal with a hatchet!
I think some of us are just too impatient because we love to watch fresh potential. It’s pretty obvious that Solskjær has set up his staff to more than almost any team now or before facilitate the road from youth to grown up football. With people like Kieran McKenna, Nicky Butt and a few others overlapping, it’s clear that most decision are taken with the long term development of the young players themselves in focus. Then of course one can always debate that, but It’s a whole otjer story than Moyes putting his/the teams needs ahead of playe’s developmental needs like Januzaj, or Van Gaal throwing them to the wolves to swim or, mostly, sink, or Mourinho throwing them in the bin or, occasionally, to the press to deflect negative attention from himself.
wenow have a heap of young players playing football in loan deals, and have given two teenagers their debuts, one of which is our second youngest debut in the PL era. Note that Solskjær has two of the top three places on that list, while even Ferguson has none. We all know who has the top place and why.
Ed. Apologies for horrid mobile phone spelling and syntax.
I was quoting an earlier post which had already established that the bookies had it 80/1 for Real Sociedad to win by 4 goals or more. I was reasoning that those odds would assume we'd play a competent side with decent experience - which would make such a heavy loss unlikely. Definitely not odds on just team selection, even if the wording of my post may have suggested that!
Playing in the UEFA cup isn't a high pressure match for a 17 year old who's about to make his first start for United - It is. It's learning to manage big game nerves. Learning what happens when you play at Old Trafford for the first XI, not a match at U23 or U18.
