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Completely besides the point. Both statements were no longer than a sentence, not the constant referrals to it that you are saying happened.

"Kept saying", whether that's twice or three or five times it's repetition.

And yeah, I noticed you go for one liners ;)
 
No, it was actually a genuine enquiry. I thought about playing Shesternyov as sweeper with Beckenbauer in midfield but opted out thinking that people will want to know why Beckenbauer isn't doing it and that they may get in each others way etc.

Same thing with Beckenabuer as sweeper and Shesternov as CB, was told it may not work.

I think it's much easier in KM's case. Beckenbauer's reputation is the bigger problem, imo. He will more than anyone else be questioned if not played as a libero while no one really cares about Scirea or Baresi playing centerback. Beckenbauer owned that role. Can't wait to read Antohan defending him fiercely when he uses him as a midfield player in the upcoming game.

But it's probably best to call Sammer a defensive midfielder instead of Sweeper and explain his role, so no one gets confused and brings up that point with Scirea. KM should be fine, imo.
 
Can we ease off with all the advice for KM. I'm suppose to be playing him, not all the manager's in the draft. He should pick his own team like the one he posted ;)

Yeah I apologize for that. I just wanted to show off my first XI!
 
Thoughts??

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I think it's much easier in KM's case. Beckenbauer's reputation is the bigger problem, imo. He will more than anyone else be questioned if not played as a libero while no one really cares about Scirea or Baresi playing centerback. Beckenbauer owned that role. Can't wait to read Antohan defending him fiercely when he uses him as a midfield player in the upcoming game.

But it's probably best to call Sammer a defensive midfielder instead of Sweeper and explain his role, so no one gets confused and brings up that point with Scirea. KM should be fine, imo.

Yeah, that makes sense.
 
Nobody's given any thoughts on my team when I've asked a few times. I know its good and all... But come on!!
 
Fantastic, if you can get across how much of a beast Varela actually was. Best defence in the draft I think.

I thought you fecked up this part of the draft at first but as it turns out your one of the only ones to have fully addressed all the main weakness in your team.

Nobody's given any thoughts on my team when I've asked a few times. I know its good and all... But come on!!

...

I'd have you as slight favourite for your match.
 
I don't think the winner from the NM vs Anto game has much chance of winning it. The star attacking names are congregated elsewhere, bar Pele.
 
agree with that actually. We have FANTASTIC players - but not the names that attract votes.

I think Anto would agree, Beckenbauer, Fachetti, Passarella, Neeskens, Rijkaard, Figueroa, Maldini, Thuram, Laudrup etc etc.

You both have great players from each side but lacks the flair and aura of the other quarters. Cruyff, Maradona, Messi, Garrincha, Ronaldo are in one match I think?!
 
Just had a look and think the Brwned/Cutch winner is set up beautifully.
 
Your defence is fantastic, as are your wingers. Your midfield two aren't good enough though.

Bite

:D

Not going to bite here. I hope to get a stronger midfield if I get through though. Without a doubt.
 
I think Anto would agree, Beckenbauer, Fachetti, Passarella, Neeskens, Rijkaard, Figueroa, Maldini, Thuram, Laudrup etc etc.

You both have great players from each side but lacks the flair and aura of the other quarters. Cruyff, Maradona, Messi, Garrincha, Ronaldo are in one match I think?!

So one of Maradona and Messi and one of Garrincha and Ronaldo are probably gone in the next round while Anto/NM can build around Pelé and Beckenbauer? Can think of a worse situation to build on.
 
I don't think the winner from the NM vs Anto game has much chance of winning it. The star attacking names are congregated elsewhere, bar Pele.

Agree, that's why I hated drawing you. Tough game AND not much of an improvement out of it. Would have much rather got another side and gone for Ronaldo as first pick. My side was set up for players like him and Messi, less so Maradona or Pelé.

Just had a look and think the Brwned/Cutch winner is set up beautifully.

Indeed. Our only hope would be drawing the winner of the Argie star matchup and getting to pick from them. But then the star wingers would all be in the other semi...

That's why I said earlier (even before we were drawn) that you needed to look at changing things going forward. Those two wingers are good and functional but won't win you the darn thing, not in a million years. It's not just a voter thing, they are not in the same bracket as the ones on display elsewhere.

As it is, I reckon if I went through I would have a small outside chance, while NM has none at all.
 
:D

Not going to bite here. I hope to get a stronger midfield if I get through though. Without a doubt.

The best thing about your midfield is probably Varela. Can't see Anto disagreeing when you start to big him up like he's the best of all time :).
 
Balu -- Yeah slipped my mind when I wrote that, but doesn't apply to Cutch/Brwned, which is the only other one I've checked so far.

Anto's additions are clearer and will seemlessly slot it, no Brazillian and presumably Figueroa as well. Whereas for Beckenbauer isn't ideal for NM's 4-2-3-1 IMO, plus loses his striker in Rummenigge without an immediate replacement.
 
So one of Maradona and Messi and one of Garrincha and Ronaldo are probably gone in the next round while Anto/NM can build around Pelé and Beckenbauer? Can think of a worse situation to build on.

The foundations are right in both sides, the star factor upfront isn't. In real-life foundations win stuff, on here the frontline does.

BTW, I reckon Stobzilla has something quite interesting going on there. He goes all quietly about it but it's a great side back to front and one that could bring on all sorts of reinforcements without much difficulty. He hasn't even picked an Italian yet!
 
Agree, that's why I hated drawing you. Tough game AND not much of an improvement out of it. Would have much rather got another side and gone for Ronaldo as first pick. My side was set up for players like him and Messi, less so Maradona or Pelé.

Yeah definitely, Ronaldo would have been completely ideal for you guys.
 
Yeah. Didn't look through all teams and the nations already picked. Just sounds strange to me, that a team possibly build around Pele and Beckenbauer with quality all over the pitch doesn't have a shot at winning.
 
I thought NM should go for Maldini, Redondo, and Xavi/AMC in that order. They would strengthen his defence, and has a chance against Backenbaur - Rijkaard - Iniesta/Laudrup trio in midfield.
 
I thought NM should go for Maldini, Redondo, and Xavi/AMC in that order.

That would have meant kicking out Passarella and keeping Carvalho.

We went through all the options and this was the best one I think, but had hoped to get Edwards in CM. Cole and Carvalho were NM's weakest players and in Maldini and Figueroa they couldn't have been improved further really.

Also Xavi was out due to Zamora in net. Would have loved Xavi though.
 
I thought NM should go for Maldini, Redondo, and Xavi/AMC in that order. They would strengthen his defence, and has a chance against Backenbaur - Rijkaard - Iniesta/Laudrup trio in midfield.

No point going for Maldini first as the next managers until he was back on all had a key Italian. He was always going to be able to pick him on the second round.

Letting Redondo go was surprising, probably a mixture of attachment to Passarella and looking forward to Beckenbauer. But also that Maldini-Carvalho with Cole on the left wouldn't be particularly impressive.

He couldn't pick Xavi as his keeper is Spanish.

I actually thought he would do the most damage getting Xavi-Maldini-Schmeichel (or Pfaff if he wanted Laudrup later).
 
Yeah. Didn't look through all teams and the nations already picked. Just sounds strange to me, that a team possibly build around Pele and Beckenbauer with quality all over the pitch doesn't have a shot at winning.

As I said, there would be an outside chance if I got hold of Messi in the semi. No other viable path.
 
But.. I prefer this way against your side. One of the reasons we picked Valera was to try and smother Beckenbauer and turn it into a battle in the middle. I think Xavi would have been lossed in this game with just a midfield two of him and Neeskens. Varela is more suited IMO, turn it into a war.
 
No point going for Maldini first as the next managers until he was back on all had a key Italian. He was always going to be able to pick him on the second round.

Letting Redondo go was surprising, probably a mixture of attachment to Passarella and looking forward to Beckenbauer. But also that Maldini-Carvalho with Cole on the left wouldn't be particularly impressive.

He couldn't pick Xavi as his keeper is Spanish.

I actually thought he would do the most damage getting Xavi-Maldini-Schmeichel (or Pfaff if he wanted Laudrup later).

Yeh. With so many around, picking up a GK from big footballing country is a big no no. I agree with your last line.
 
But.. I prefer this way against your side. One of the reasons we picked Valera was to try and smother Beckenbauer and turn it into a battle in the middle. I think Xavi would have been lossed in this game with just a midfield two of him and Neeskens. Varela is more suited IMO, turn it into a war.

It would be Xavi on top of 2 CM.
 
Can't tell if you are on a wum Iso! Cruyff would lose us Neeskens.

Edit - Did I imagine that post or did you just delete it :wenger:
 
Never thought of that Antohan.

Outstanding keeper.

Defence sorted, bar Cole/Carvalho, but Rio would sort that.

Midfield suddenly having a lot more creativity and vote-winning kudos. You would probably need Rijkaard rather than Neeskens, no Beckenbauer, no need to replace Rummenigge.

Wings the same, which is a downer, but you've done that anyway. If no Rijkaard could go Laudrup and scrap them to make a trident with Pelé, Laudrup and Rummenigge, which would afford you an extra man in central midfield.

The extra man would need to be picked later, in the meantime you could crack on with Laudrup/Pelé there and one of Boniek/Blokhin in the trident along the one not pulled back to midfield. Bit shit that bit, I know but OKish and with your next round pick would have a real go at it.

As it is, you are three tweaks away from the final, your midfield is not great and your wingers not good enough. You are pretty screwed.
 
Outstanding keeper.

Defence sorted, bar Cole/Carvalho, but Rio would sort that.

Midfield suddenly having a lot more creativity and vote-winning kudos. You would probably need Rijkaard rather than Neeskens, no Beckenbauer, no need to replace Rummenigge.

Wings the same, which is a downer, but you've done that anyway. If no Rijkaard could go Laudrup and scrap them to make a trident with Pelé, Laudrup and Rummenigge, which would afford you an extra man in central midfield.

The extra man would need to be picked later, in the meantime you could crack on with Laudrup/Pelé there and one of Boniek/Blokhin in the trident along the one not pulled back to midfield. Bit shit that bit, I know but OKish and with your next round pick would have a real go at it.

As it is, you are three tweaks away from the final, your midfield is not great and your wingers not good enough. You are pretty screwed.


ooooh Ano trying to get shots in early.

Completely disagree. Once I make my tweaks, I'll be fine for the final if I get through.

btw - I did think of your path - spaniard + keeper but decided against it. I reckon if I do beat you and add who I want, I have a real shot.

It willl be a good game.

Btw - I would rather stick to my guns and play with my wingers. If I go out, I go out my way, and I'm fine with that!
 
But.. I prefer this way against your side. One of the reasons we picked Valera was to try and smother Beckenbauer and turn it into a battle in the middle. I think Xavi would have been lossed in this game with just a midfield two of him and Neeskens. Varela is more suited IMO, turn it into a war.

Xavi, Neeskens wouldn't have worked IMO.

It was almost impossible for me to convince people Xavi-Davids didn't and NM has other players chipping in. I do have Beckenbauer now though, fair enough. It is the only path to a final victory I could see for them though, so worth trying. Remember he could get a third man going forward by scrapping the wingers...

Theon, I did get the message. Get ready for a mighty scrap mate ;)