Cheers lads. The rest looks good then?
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I've pm'd Brwned so all ready to go KM. Best of luck for tomorrow.
Looks good, except that Popluhar might not be very popular.
Yeah you too buddy.
Looks good, extra brownie points for being the only one to have a remaining Hungarian in the team.
You could swap Popluhar for Robben or Schifianno (if he can play right forwards) and put Sammer at the back and move Messi central as an alternative.
By all means, you had some good players there who haven't been picked largely due to the nationality rule and should be in the quarterfinal (Rivaldo and Kohler). But all I kept pointing out was that the fact you had more high profile star players didn't necessarily make your team better overall.
I certainly needed to point out how much of a gap there is between Demyanenko and Facchetti, Rijkaard in a two and Davids all alone, etc. Otherwise I was just a sitting duck really because what immediately jumped at anyone was Platini-Rivaldo-Xavi.
There was s big deal made out of the whole Nordahl thing when in fact everything I said is true. Erico is by all accounts a more exceptional talent, which I was never going to be able to prove, so the least I could do was compare both of them relative to someone known and the comparison was fair and square bar a somewhat excessive but factually correct "poor man's" description. Was Nordahl the right player for your side ahead of Erico? Quite probably. Is he a bad player? Never said that.
Don't know where the whole "swathes of one-sided bias" comes from, other than a few random digs at Franklin who, to this day, I have no idea whether he would be good enough to face a tricky and dynamic modern frontline.
How does it look?
I dunno tbh. It looks beastly, but what I ended up thinking was - Messi became the best after moving to the center.. Neither him nor Nedved are going to track back muh.. and neither of them are out and out wingers meaning a lack of width.
Maybe im overanalyzing - that is still a scary good team!
anto - you get votes by just overwhelming the opponent with 100000s of posts. Big ones too. Its a valid tactic, but I can see why other players get pissed off..
Btw, thanks for PM'ing next person and I haven't got better - they sent me back to the hotel frmo work. At least I'm not in the office though!
Nedved was an all action player. Don't think work rate will be a problem with him.
Yep. If anything you can't accuse him is lacking of work rate. And he's a good crosser as well.
All good then. That team looks amazing tbh.
That doesn't win you votes, but helps not lose them, that was the main idea. Think our game should be a lot more civil in that regard TBH as tends to be the case when it is crystal clear what either side is all about.
Shame about that. Look after yourself.
Popluhar must be one to replace soon, indeed.
I personally wouldn't swap Breitner. He was right-footed and as far as I remember much of his midfield play was on the right. I feel that right flank may be better off with him. I haven't seen thisistheone's setup though and that may indicate the opposite.
The one thing that doesn't sit well with me at all is Boszik up there. He wasn't an AM, he is playing Hidegkuti's role when he in fact was a deep-lying playmaker. Hungary played 4-1-1-4 (yes, I know
, where's the midfield?) with him spraying balls from deep and Hidegkuti in the hole. I would review that midfield setup if I were you.Did someone really compare Voronin to Yaya Toure earlier?
Which is why I reckon on paper Breitner should be on the right. I would review the midfield. TBH, it looks to me like Sammer holding, Boszik with Breitner and nedved either side and Ronaldo and Messi upfront. Not what you want but what would best suit them. Or maybe flat-3 in the middle with Nedved linking.
Dunno, you will have the width question asked in either of those, but Bozsik simply didn't play where you have him.
Not convinced Nedved's much use playing as high up as Messi.
I said that; it was obviously a joke as they were awful 1st and 3rd picks. For what was available and how much longer both or either would've lasted, selection wise, it was a crazy move. So it proved.
Popluhar must be one to replace soon, indeed.
I personally wouldn't swap Breitner. He was right-footed and as far as I remember much of his midfield play was on the right. I feel that right flank may be better off with him. I haven't seen thisistheone's setup though and that may indicate the opposite.
The one thing that doesn't sit well with me at all is Boszik up there. He wasn't an AM, he is playing Hidegkuti's role when he in fact was a deep-lying playmaker. Hungary played 4-1-1-4 (yes, I know
Yeah I made a mistake there. Bozsik was meant to be deeper than Sammer and Breitner.
Popluhar isn't well known but was world class in his own right. Was included in the world XI called on to play against England and it included the likes of Di Stefano, Denis Law, Kopa, Eusobio etc.
The other team has Irwin and Lahm as full backs!
Maybe play Sammer as a sweeper behind a midfield 3 of Nedved - Bozsik - Breitner?
Messi and Ronaldo can play 1-2s until they end up in front of the goalkeeper anyway. Doesn't really matter where they get the ball? And Nedved and Breitner will provide some width if necessary.
Same here. Don't get why people keep turning Nedved into a wing forward. I assume it's to "have width", but it's a bit of a car crash IMO.
Do you think it's ok to play a sweeper when there's a better one playing at CB?
I know, that's what I meant by "quip", but I wouldn't be surprised if some people actually thought Maynor Figueroa was on the pitch due to nationality rules or whatnot
We'll see. I would be quite keen on him, but need to see how he fares. No one questioned paceme saying he had the best CB pair. But then, maybe they didn't care.
How does it look?
Out of interest, who are your subs?
I know, that's what I meant by "quip", but I wouldn't be surprised if some people actually thought Maynor Figueroa was on the pitch due to nationality rules or whatnot
We'll see. I would be quite keen on him, but need to see how he fares. No one questioned paceme saying he had the best CB pair. But then, maybe they didn't care.
I questioned it in my casting vote. I didn't even think he had the best defence in his own match-up!
That's what I meant by Sammer holding behind those in a flat three.
It's a bit much though to just say they will 1-2 their way all the way up. This was primed for a 4-2-2-2 really, with Sammer-Boszik and Nedved-AN Other (not really Breitner).
KM, who do you have in reserve? Anyone who can take the top right in the magic square? Who's your left back?
Yeah, fair point. But someone has to play centerback after all and afaik Scirea is way better in that position than Sammer.
To be fair,
my defense of Maldid, Figueroa, Passarella, Thuram has to be the best around now!!
my defense of Maldid, Figueroa, Passarella, Thuram has to be the best around now!!
Can we ease off with all the advice for KM. I'm suppose to be playing him, not all the manager's in the draft. He should pick his own team like the one he posted 
God, this again... Sammer holding and protecting the back four is fine and better at that job than Scirea IMO. How exactly do you define sweeper? It's like a zillion different players and ways of playing are all under the banner "sweeper/libero" and somehow that is inconsistent with being able to play as a good old proper centre-half. Why?
Can we ease off with all the advice for KM. I'm suppose to be playing him, not all the manager's in the draft. He should pick his own team like the one he posted
Fair enough mate. You are right.
No, it was actually a genuine enquiry. I thought about playing Shesternyov as sweeper with Beckenbauer in midfield but opted out thinking that people will want to know why Beckenbauer isn't doing it and that they may get in each others way etc.
Same thing with Beckenabuer as sweeper and Shesternov as CB, was told it may not work.
His CB pair was immense, but he kept saying he had the best defence, which was an own goal really.
That is fine.
Oh, I see. TBH, it depends on the players. A bit like the discussion on Cruyff and Maradona, etc. I can't see Beckenbauer changing his game at all so Shesternyov would have to be a pure sweeper (i.e. sweeping behind the CBs) and leave all the libero type stuff between the defence, midfield and beyond to Beckenbauer. Would that work? Don't know the guy, I spent some time thinking you had got Streltsov. Seriously.
you are going to lose the chess game on time you cnut!
Which is the last thing you want from any defence.
Was said twice.
Now add all the replies stating otherwise... you got into trouble unnecessarily by not focusing on the central partnership.
Completely besides the point. Both statements were no longer than a sentence, not the constant referrals to it that you are saying happened.