All-Time Fantasy Draft

KM said:
You are assisting me then.
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Hands off! We go a long way! I was his assistant when he played this in the newbies :devil:

BTW, shame on you Theon, you got a lot of inside knowledge in your consition as "neutral" :nono:
 
Theon said:
What are you talking about?
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Exchanging PMs on views on players, drafting approach, etc. then running away to a rival club... Naughty boy :Kenyongif:

Never mind, it was early on in the first round and obviously has all changed by now. I am aware at that point you hoped to take on a team rather than act as assistant.
 
Has nothing to do with helping NM anyway, same way it wouldn't matter if I got my own team. How does suggesting you get Matthaus impact whatsoever on the draft, considering he is long gone?

That was about the essence of our PM's - Matthaus v Rijkaard.
 
Theon said:
Has nothing to do with helping NM anyway, same way it wouldn't matter if I got my own team. How does suggesting you get Matthaus impact whatsoever on the draft, considering he is long gone?

That was about the essence of our PM's - Matthaus v Rijkaard.
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We had that debate recently on the Caf. I'd edge towards Matthaus, but they're both outstanding if different midfielders who'd make a barnstorming combination.
 
Gio said:
We had that debate recently on the Caf. I'd edge towards Matthaus, but they're both outstanding if different midfielders who'd make a barnstorming combination.
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Ayee, I edge Matthaus too. In the end it was decided for Anto because Matthaus got picked! Both brilliant anyway, as a purely defensive midfielder I would probably take Rijkaard, with Matthaus more rounded.
 
Theon said:
Ayee, I edge Matthaus too. In the end it was decided for Anto because Matthaus got picked! Both brilliant anyway, as a purely defensive midfielder I would probably take Rijkaard, with Matthaus more rounded.
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Aldo and I had the same discussion. Mate, it was more a case of what I said than what you asked, I remember sending that and then wondering "why did I write all that stuff if he may yet become a manager". It was largely inconsequential. Just pissing about man :kenyongif: should be a giveaway ;)
 
Rijkaard was a fantastic DM. He's mobile, physically perfect for footballer, good passer and reader of the game, excellent tackler and in positioning. When you watch even the late 80's Milan's games, you can see that he'd still suit the modern game, and would still be the best DM in the world. Just like Maradona as AM.
 
If we are talking about peaks of players I was delighted to get ronaldinho last round as since I've started watching football I think he has been the player to reach the highest heights bar messi, granted I am only 21...

Next pick Ill go for the best defender of his generation, Alessandro Nesta
 
Isotope said:
Rijkaard was a fantastic DM. He's mobile, physically perfect for footballer, good passer and reader of the game, excellent tackler and in positioning. When you watch even the late 80's Milan's games, you can see that he'd still suit the modern game, and would still be the best DM in the world. Just like Maradona as AM.
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That's what I was getting at when presenting Laudrup. Top players from that interim period (late 80s to mid 90s) would be equally comfortable in the modern or old school (well, not too old).
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Just to be clear, the time limit is down to 6 hours if I am not wrong.
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Just in case you didn't see my previous comment, I welcome you again Aldo. Congrats and fully deserve up here. Did you take few others with you?
 
Jozsef Bozsik is my pick.

Also thisistheone picks Eto'o.
 
Bozsik is a clever pick, thought he would sneak another round yet.
 
Isotope said:
Just in case you didn't see my previous comment, I welcome you again Aldo. Congrats and fully deserve up here. Did you take few others with you?
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Whoops, really sorry, forgot to reply. Saw your comment, and thanks a lot mate! I don't' think anyone else came up with me, there was no one else in the welcome thread in the general.
 
antohan said:
That's what I was getting at when presenting Laudrup. Top players from that interim period (late 80s to mid 90s) would be equally comfortable in the modern or old school (well, not too old).
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Laudrup was excellent as well. He's just lacking this 'aura and charm' as one of great payers. It shouldn't be a deciding factor, but an important one nonetheless.
 
Isotope said:
Laudrup was excellent as well. He's just lacking this 'aura and charm' as one of great payers. It shouldn't be a deciding factor, but an important one nonetheless.
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When you compare him with the likes of Maradona and Cruyff, that's true. However his nation is a big plus, and we can keep him in the team till the end.
 
Fortitude said:
What is 'prime form' for those players, such as Messi and C.Ronaldo, who may not have even reached their peaks yet, btw?

C.Ronaldo's 'best' season is highly subjective, is it not? Many would argue his 20 something goals and assists is the best form of his career over any of the goal-scoring ones. And, if that's the case, he was a very different player then to how he is now.

Is it going to be noted what season(s) these (in fact all) players are being ascribed?

It's pretty important given the changes a lot of these players go through from starting out to calling it a day. Someone like Matthaus, for example had three solid phases and positions to be picked from, and his peak is quite questionable. given he was so good for so long.

Then you've got someone like Pele who was a goal-scoring phenomenon as a youngster and slowly transitioned to a creator and play-maker in his late 20's , but some would argue his best years were then rather than when he was starting out to his early 20's.
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I imagine lot of that debate will be teased out during the match threads. It's a valid point and we shouldn't merge two versions of a player who has reinvented themselves during their career. Hopefully in most cases their positioning and role on the teamsheet will provide sufficient clarity.
 
Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi
DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta
KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik
Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o
NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens
Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten
Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane
MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha
JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini
mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov
EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore
Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi
Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard
Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia)
Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus
paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi
 
Come on NM, there's enough waiting around for those who are offline!
 
Nesta was who I was implying earlier when talking about a partner for Figueroa. Thought those two together would have been imperious.

Nesta has a claim to be the best CB of all-time, imo. At his peak, he was godly. One of very few who could match up against a pre-injury Ronaldo Luiz, which, one-on-one, is a feat in itself.

The Bozsik pick was a great one, too.

Impressed by most of the picks thus far.
 
Daniel Passarella
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Cutch takes Robbo

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I'm delighted to take Falcão

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Fergus'son: 1. Beckenbauer 2. Eusebio 3. Didi
DanNistelrooy: Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Ronaldinho 3. Nesta
KM: 1. Messi 2. Scirea 3. Bozsik
Thisistheone: 1. Maradona 2. B.Charlton 3. Eto'o
NM: 1. Pele 2. Neeskens 3. Passarella
Cutch: 1. Best 2. Van Basten 3. Robson
Brwned: 1. Di Stéfano 2. Keane 3. Falcão
MJJ: 1. Duncan Edwards 2. Garrincha
JakeC: 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini
mightberight: 1. Ferenc Puskas 2. Stoichkov
EDogen: 1. Cruyff 2. Moore
Gio: 1. Platini 2. Xavi
Antohan: 1. Laudrup 2. Rijkaard
Stobzilla: 1. Zidane 2. Yashin (Russia)
Isotope: 1. Zico 2. L. Matthäus
paceme: 1. Figueroa 2. Baresi
 
Gio said:
I imagine lot of that debate will be teased out during the match threads. It's a valid point and we shouldn't merge two versions of a player who has reinvented themselves during their career. Hopefully in most cases their positioning and role on the teamsheet will provide sufficient clarity.
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Yes, from a tactical standpoint it makes quite a difference as well. A play-making Pele needs different attention to the firecracker youngster, and their styles of play are quite a bit different, too.

Many of those with long, magnificent careers can have something similar said about them as well.

Young Beckenbauer was a midfield maestro, whereas the more mature one was a sweeper, the two played in a very different way to each other.
 
Falcao and Keane in the same midfield is a challenge and a half for the other midfields in the draft!
 
NM said:
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Fortitude said:
Nesta was who I was implying earlier when talking about a partner for Figueroa. Thought those two together would have been imperious.

Nesta has a claim to be the best CB of all-time, imo. At his peak, he was godly. One of very few who could match up against a pre-injury Ronaldo Luiz, which, one-on-one, is a feat in itself.

The Bozsik pick was a great one, too.

Impressed by most of the picks thus far.
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Prefer Baresi. Much better with the ball and his organisational skills are better than anyone that I know.
 
i like my team's spine.

No spelling errors bitches!!
 
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