ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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WeasteDevil said:
You're getting very emotional about this; I can see it.
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He's one of many. Hell hath no fury like a caftard scorned.

Approximately 20% of this thread sounds like a support group for people who have recently been dumped by their significant other.

"If she won't stay with me I hope she NEVER finds happiness again! Oh, why does it have to hurt so much? I feel like I'm dying inside... etc. etc."
 
noodlehair said:
If he comes out and denies the quotes are true at any point then fair enough. I doubt they're not genuine though. He's 23, it's about time he grew up.
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Why? I'm genuinely interested because you don't bend your opinion depending on the wind like 90% people here. The same people who wanted him swapped for Aaron Lennon after the world cup.
 
Brwned said:
:rolleyes: Not true at all, if SAF praises him constantly for his personality and intelligence then clearly he is being painted to the media as something he is not.
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:lol: SAF isnt going to talk sh1te to the press or in public about his players even if it is the truth u deluded...

maybe ronaldo doesnt cause any trouble in the dressing room constantly but i bet he is a narcisistic self serving cnut, just look at what he did to rooney in the wc, or how full of himself he obviously is. or how he behaves on the pitch when things dont go his way.

What do expect him to come out in public and say "rooney stop shagging old women" "rio stop sniffing magic powder, u dont need it"
 
neno said:
ronaldinho was started to be considered one of the best after he lead the barca revival in 2003/2004. with a historic 2nd half of the league point haul.(he was 23) Then in late december when the world player of the year awards where given. ronaldinho won it he was 24 by that december (wow one more year.. big difference) he didnt get the the ballon d'or that year even though his performances where more consistent than shevas in 2004, the claim was basically that he had won nothing yet with barca. but ronaldinho was already considered by a lot of people the best when he was 24. Ronaldo has yet to dominate teams like chelsea, milan, real madrid, like ronaldinho did everytime when he was arsed to play.
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Ronaldo was also considered the best player by many in 06/07, when they gave it to Kaka because of his CL run, at only 22. You're now running out of excuses in attempts to belittle Ronaldo's achievements and contribution to United.
 
Partizan said:
Good point, I have no doubt that Ronaldo has enjoyed winning the FA cup, two Pls, and a CL at United, but I think he'd have been just as happy winning them at Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or Spartak Moscow. In fact, if Juve hadn't have blinked at the asking price he'd have been plying his trade in Italy for the last five years.
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Hadn't Juve blinked at the asking price, he'd probably be back in Portugal now plying his trade at Benfica or something. The lad just doesn't realise how beneficial it's been for him to work under Sir Alex Ferguson and Carlos Queiroz, he seems to have very little of gratitude towards the men who made him the player he is, it seems.

That's if his alleged quotes about wanting to leave are true, obviously.

He's one of many. Hell hath no fury like a caftard scorned.

Approximately 20% of this thread sounds like a support group for people who have recently been dumped by their significant other.

"If she won't stay with me I hope she NEVER finds happiness again! Oh, why does it have to hurt so much? I feel like I'm dying inside... etc. etc."
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Breaking up with girlfriend is far less complicated than this one. They don't usually lock themselves at training camps and refuse to speak. :smirk:
 
neno said:
:lol: SAF isnt going to talk sh1te to the press or in public about his players even if it is the truth u deluded...

maybe ronaldo doesnt cause any trouble in the dressing room constantly but i bet he is a narcisistic self serving cnut, just look at what he did to rooney in the wc, or how full of himself he obviously is. or how he behaves on the pitch when things dont go his way.

What do expect him to come out in public and say "rooney stop shagging old women" "rio stop sniffing magic powder, u dont need it"
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:rolleyes:

Oh dear. The gimps are back.
 
Brwned said:
:rolleyes: Not true at all, if SAF praises him constantly for his personality and intelligence then clearly he is being painted to the media as something he is not.
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Ferguson praises everyone if it's convenient for him, I've never seen him talk badly about a player.
 
SAred said:
Just heard that he has told Sir Alex to stay away and if that is ture no matter how much I love this guy its time to go. MANCHESTER UNITED > SIR ALEX > any player
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100% agree.
 
zing said:
Why? I'm genuinely interested because you don't bend your opinion depending on the wind like 90% people here. The same people who wanted him swapped for Aaron Lennon after the world cup.
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Because I find the idea of running off to the other side of the world, and then mouthing off about how you want to join another club, instead of growing a pair and straightening it out with your boss, somewhat pathetic.

At some point he's going to be asked about those quotes. If he denies they're true then fair enough, I'll always trust a first person view over any media source. If it turns out they are true then he's an utter gimp. It's not like it'd be the first time he's done it either.

I want him to stay obviously, I'd forgive him any gimptardery if he did. He really doesn't do himself any favours though. If he played for any other club I'd despise him probably. He reminds me of Reyes
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Speak for yourself, mate.

I'm just glad that my ex-girlfriend never started a thread like this, dedicated to blackening my name. That would have got very ugly, very quickly.
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She didn't lock herself in a training camp either, I think. Although this may be a good solution in some cases, actually. :smirk:
 
i think neno made some valid points.The bottom line is with or without ronaldo we will still be MANCHESTER UNITED,not UNREAL madrid
 
Ronaldo has not given a press conference since Portugal arrived at their training camp to prepare for tomorrow's match against Turkey and he will not appear today, when Scolari and Nuno Gomes will inevitably be questioned about the issue.
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Looks like its going to be LONG summer again
 
noodlehair said:
Because I find the idea of running off to the other side of the world, and then mouthing off about how you want to join another club, instead of growing a pair and straightening it out with your boss, somewhat pathetic.
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That's a fair point. But none of us have any idea what sort of "straightening out" he attempted when he was still in Manchester. This whole fall-out with Fergie shite is almost certainly media-hyped bollox. For all we know, Ronaldo's been on the blower to Fergie daily, ever since the CL final.

99% of the furore around this whole thing is a result of people jumping to conclusions, fans and journos alike.
 
Simon Adebesi said:
There is no context to explain this away. In this case things really are quite simple. The boy wants to go to Madrid. We all knew this before this summer.
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We all know that, but he has not got the decency to inform his employer of his intention and kept making announcement of his intended announcement! He's worse that Beckham's wife in many ways as far as media attention seeking is concerned.

I really want to see what SAF is going to deal with him, and deal with him good and give him a lesson he doesn't mess with United!
 
There is no loyalty in football generally, though there are some exceptional cases - Scholes, Giggs, Neville. Notice a common theme with those 3?

Football is an unpleasant business where money rules.

But besides that, let's just acknowledge that for as long as I can remember in his short career, Ronaldo has expressed a desire to play for Madrid. That should tell us all that he has no intention of doing a Scholes with us. He will be off, it's just a matter of when, but as he's won it all with United then it would seem that now is ideal as far as he is concerned.

His value is as high as it will ever get, unless he ends up top scorer in Euro 2008, but even then, paying in excess of 100m is unlikely whichever club eventually buys him, despite the fact that Madrid (or whomever he joins - lol) will probably recoup that in a matter of 2 seasons thanks to merchandising sales.

So let's just say that Ronaldo has his heart set on a move to Madrid one day. As far as I am concerned, his heart isn't in playing for United anymore, if it ever was at all.

Back to money, he will also of course earn the fattest contract in world football if he goes to Madrid and that will tip it all in their favour as we will not be held to ransom by the player or at least will not want to look like we caved in to him just a year or less after giving him his current fat contract.

I say sell him for as much as we can - let there be a bidding war between Barca and Madrid and accept the highest offer. It will be Madrid eventually because he doesn't really want to play at Barca.

We are just a stepping stone to where he wants to be frankly. And I don't care what anyone says, Madrid probably are the biggest name there is in world football, yes, bigger than United. We will be bigger than them when we build a dynasty that wins 3 CLs. Shame that he wants to go, because we would have done that with him, but just because he's off, doesn't mean we still can't.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That's a fair point. But none of us have any idea what sort of "straightening out" he attempted when he was still in Manchester. This whole fall-out with Fergie shite is almost certainly media-hyped bollox. For all we know, Ronaldo's been on the blower to Fergie daily, ever since the CL final.

99% of the furore around this whole thing is a result of people jumping to conclusions, fans and journos alike.
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Exactly, look at the main players...

Fergie (the man), Gill (the finance man) and Ronaldo.

Im waiting on the next installment from Fergus to see whether i can abstract anything, even though days seem like years and it has already been a millenium.
 
brophs said:
Why, what did you do to her/them? It wasn't the long fabled, never-seen lost distance handbag shit, was it? You can tell us.
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Nothing strange or unusual. It may or may not have involved an unfortunate and regrettable incident involving the discovery of a sexually explicit text message on my mobile phone.

But that's the last I'm gonna say about it until after Euro 2008. There's no point asking me any more questions because I won't answer them.
 
redevil2 said:
We all know that, but he has not got the decency to inform his employer of his intention and kept making announcement of his intended announcement! He's worse that Beckham's wife in many ways as far as media attention seeking is concerned.

I really want to see what SAF is going to deal with him, and deal with him good and give him a lesson he doesn't mess with United!
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He probably has told Utd what he wants, we the supporters are not his employers though, we are only clutching straws.
 
Dans said:
There is no loyalty in football generally, though there are some exceptional cases - Scholes, Giggs, Neville. Notice a common theme with those 3?

Football is an unpleasant business where money rules.

But besides that, let's just acknowledge that for as long as I can remember in his short career, Ronaldo has expressed a desire to play for Madrid. That should tell us all that he has no intention of doing a Scholes with us. He will be off, it's just a matter of when, but as he's won it all with United then it would seem that now is ideal as far as he is concerned.

His value is as high as it will ever get, unless he ends up top scorer in Euro 2008, but even then, paying in excess of 100m is unlikely whichever club eventually buys him, despite the fact that Madrid (or whomever he joins - lol) will probably recoup that in a matter of 2 seasons thanks to merchandising sales.

So let's just say that Ronaldo has his heart set on a move to Madrid one day. As far as I am concerned, his heart isn't in playing for United anymore, if it ever was at all.

Back to money, he will also of course earn the fattest contract in world football if he goes to Madrid and that will tip it all in their favour as we will not be held to ransom by the player or at least will not want to look like we caved in to him just a year or less after giving him his current fat contract.

I say sell him for as much as we can - let there be a bidding war between Barca and Madrid and accept the highest offer. It will be Madrid eventually because he doesn't really want to play at Barca.

We are just a stepping stone to where he wants to be frankly. And I don't care what anyone says, Madrid probably are the biggest name there is in world football, yes, bigger than United. We will be bigger than them when we build a dynasty that wins 3 CLs. Shame that he wants to go, because we would have done that with him, but just because he's off, doesn't mean we still can't.
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That's more or less the crux of it mate, spot on.
 
KingDingle22 said:
The worse thing is he doesn't even have to say anything...


All he needs is for his agent to release a statement.


However, if we are re-negotiating a new contract with him, then saying nothing and allowinf for all this speculation makes A LOT of sense on his part. It could help him get more £$£$£$
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If we were re-negotiating surely SAF would not be flying out to meet Ronaldo?

That is assuming that story is true by the way.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nothing strange or unusual. It may or may not have involved an unfortunate and regrettable incident involving the discovery of a sexually explicit text message on my mobile phone.

But that's the last I'm gonna say about it until after Euro 2008. There's no point asking me any more questions because I won't answer them.
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:lol: Not even if you get that new contract you've been agitating for?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That's a fair point. But none of us have any idea what sort of "straightening out" he attempted when he was still in Manchester. This whole fall-out with Fergie shite is almost certainly media-hyped bollox. For all we know, Ronaldo's been on the blower to Fergie daily, ever since the CL final.

99% of the furore around this whole thing is a result of people jumping to conclusions, fans and journos alike.
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Regardless of what's gone on between him and Fergie though, it doesn't justify a need to spout off to some Brazilian website.

Unless it turns out he didn't, obviously
 
neno said:
:lol: SAF isnt going to talk sh1te to the press or in public about his players even if it is the truth u deluded...

maybe ronaldo doesnt cause any trouble in the dressing room constantly but i bet he is a narcisistic self serving cnut, just look at what he did to rooney in the wc, or how full of himself he obviously is. or how he behaves on the pitch when things dont go his way.

What do expect him to come out in public and say "rooney stop shagging old women" "rio stop sniffing magic powder, u dont need it"
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He did nothing wrong at the World Cup. It was just a lot of inflated media bollocks which you have obviously bought into.
 
Dans said:
There is no loyalty in football generally, though there are some exceptional cases - Scholes, Giggs, Neville. Notice a common theme with those 3?

Football is an unpleasant business where money rules.

But besides that, let's just acknowledge that for as long as I can remember in his short career, Ronaldo has expressed a desire to play for Madrid. That should tell us all that he has no intention of doing a Scholes with us. He will be off, it's just a matter of when, but as he's won it all with United then it would seem that now is ideal as far as he is concerned.

His value is as high as it will ever get, unless he ends up top scorer in Euro 2008, but even then, paying in excess of 100m is unlikely whichever club eventually buys him, despite the fact that Madrid (or whomever he joins - lol) will probably recoup that in a matter of 2 seasons thanks to merchandising sales.

So let's just say that Ronaldo has his heart set on a move to Madrid one day. As far as I am concerned, his heart isn't in playing for United anymore, if it ever was at all.

Back to money, he will also of course earn the fattest contract in world football if he goes to Madrid and that will tip it all in their favour as we will not be held to ransom by the player or at least will not want to look like we caved in to him just a year or less after giving him his current fat contract.

I say sell him for as much as we can - let there be a bidding war between Barca and Madrid and accept the highest offer. It will be Madrid eventually because he doesn't really want to play at Barca.

We are just a stepping stone to where he wants to be frankly. And I don't care what anyone says, Madrid probably are the biggest name there is in world football, yes, bigger than United. We will be bigger than them when we build a dynasty that wins 3 CLs. Shame that he wants to go, because we would have done that with him, but just because he's off, doesn't mean we still can't.
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You can not honestly believe that.
 
This threads missing something....

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Dans said:
There is no loyalty in football generally, though there are some exceptional cases - Scholes, Giggs, Neville. Notice a common theme with those 3?

Football is an unpleasant business where money rules.

But besides that, let's just acknowledge that for as long as I can remember in his short career, Ronaldo has expressed a desire to play for Madrid. That should tell us all that he has no intention of doing a Scholes with us. He will be off, it's just a matter of when, but as he's won it all with United then it would seem that now is ideal as far as he is concerned.

His value is as high as it will ever get, unless he ends up top scorer in Euro 2008, but even then, paying in excess of 100m is unlikely whichever club eventually buys him, despite the fact that Madrid (or whomever he joins - lol) will probably recoup that in a matter of 2 seasons thanks to merchandising sales.

So let's just say that Ronaldo has his heart set on a move to Madrid one day. As far as I am concerned, his heart isn't in playing for United anymore, if it ever was at all.
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Yes, football business may be ugly and dirty cos of the money involved. But what is immoral on the part of Ronaldo is, his revealing of intention to join Real gives Real the bargaining chip: sell him to us at such and such price, or else you have an unhappy player. His publicly announcing his love for a move (instead of telling his employer in private first) makes it harder for us to sell him at as high as we want!


Dans said:
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I say sell him for as much as we can - let there be a bidding war between Barca and Madrid and accept the highest offer. It will be Madrid eventually because he doesn't really want to play at Barca.
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The question is: how much is 'as much as we can', now that we have a player who is holding the club at ransom?
 
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