ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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That's what I've been saying for a while, I'll be expecting him to leave for 35 million tops, more likely a sum between 25 and 30 million.

:eek: IMHO, anything less than £45m for Ronaldo would be a disaster on United's behalf. Zidane went for around £43m at the age of 29..
 
I think if he does go it'll be a world record fee. Not the £80M-£100M tats been branded about but a record fee none the less.
 
errr... that's why every player has a position, Scholesy plays in midfield and controls the tempo of a game, Rio plays in defence and keeps the rearguard tight, Rooney plays up front and scores etc....What do you expect Ronaldo to do? Keep the defence tight, control the midfield, open up spaces for others and still score 42 goals in a season??

no what it means is that if ronaldinho goes to a shit team like barca back in 2003, he can still be great on his own, he wouldnt definetly be as good as if he was in a better team but he would make players around him a lot better. Ronaldo doesnt offer half of what a ronaldinho on form offers to team play he is just there to seal the deal. although he does that greatly.
 
What I meant by saying that he is not zizou, kaka, ronaldinho is that he is not the engine of the team. that is scholes. ronaldo can't run a midfield like them. he is the best in the world but for other reasons. ronaldo wont dominate a game with his ball possesion and start passing a la carrick. he is the best at applying the finishing move not to create the play that leads to it.

that's a load of bull as well, if you watched us last season i.e. 06/07 you'll realize that he was at the heart of most of our goals, that's why he ended up with over 20 assists. Almost every game he played in, he created loads of goalscoring opportunities and had a big part in most of the goals that were scored, despite not scoring as many. This season he's scored way more, but that doesn't mean you should ignore his playmaking abilities, it just goes to show that he's a very complete player and is only getting better at 23.
 
Watching the Portugal press conference yesterday you could tell they were getting pissed off with the questions. Ronaldo has been very selfish in that regard. The press aren't interested in their Euro preparations its all about Ronaldo.
 
Strange that the Real Madrid offical site has not mentioned anything regarding Ronaldo and you would of thought that it would be all over that site. Now i have to format my pc after begin on that site - god i feel dirty
 
Ronaldo is gone for me.

I expect him to be in his fecking Spain after the Euros
 
no what it means is that if ronaldinho goes to a shit team like barca back in 2003, he can still be great on his own, he wouldnt definetly be as good as if he was in a better team but he would make players around him a lot better. Ronaldo doesnt offer half of what a ronaldinho on form offers to team play he is just there to seal the deal. although he does that greatly.

now you're really talking out of your ass unless you didn't watch us in 06/07 to see what Ronaldo offered to us in terms of team play and creating goal scoring opportunites for others. you also fail to realize that roanldinho wasn't in a shit team in barca, he had the likes of Eto'o, Deco, Xavi and Messi in 05 and 06 who helped him become the player he was in that period with barca.
 
that's a load of bull as well, if you watched us last season i.e. 06/07 you'll realize that he was at the heart of most of our goals, that's why he ended up with over 20 assists. Almost every game he played in, he created loads of goalscoring opportunities and had a big part in most of the goals that were scored, despite not scoring as many. This season he's scored way more, but that doesn't mean you should ignore his playmaking abilities, it just goes to show that he's a very complete player and is only getting better at 23.

im talking about ronaldo 2007/2008 here...

yeah 2006/2007 ronaldo was the best winger in the world.

2007/2008 ronaldo was the best forward/striker in the world.

Ronaldo became more of a forward this season and considering his attn. seeking attitude I dont see why he shouldnt stick to prefering to score goals over giving out assists for years to come. i dont have anything against this though, someone has to score them.
 
im talking about ronaldo 2007/2008 here...

yeah 2006/2007 ronaldo was the best winger in the world.

2007/2008 ronaldo was the best forward/striker in the world.

Ronaldo became more of a forward this season and considering his attn. seeking attitude I dont see why he shouldnt stick to prefering to score goals over giving out assists for years to come. i dont have anything against this though, someone has to score them.

his attn seeking attiude has helped us to a glorious double this season and his great playmaking ablities which you ignored helped us to our 16th title in 06/07. Deal with it.
 
now you're really talking out of your ass unless you didn't watch us in 06/07 to see what Ronaldo offered to us in terms of team play and creating goal scoring opportunites for others. you also fail to realize that roanldinho wasn't in a shit team in barca, he had the likes of Eto'o, Deco, Xavi and Messi in 05 and 06 who helped him become the player he was in that period with barca.

in the first half of 2003/2004 they hadnt clicked yet. they got kicked out of the uefa by who was it celtic? or some shit team (davids couldnt play due to cl appearance with juve).

they clicked in the first half of 2004 when they got davids. then he left and that summer deco, etoo came. but for the calendar year that was 2003 barca where a shit team bar their cl quarter final appearance.
 
his attn seeking attiude has helped us to a glorious double this season and his great playmaking ablities which you ignored helped us to our 16th title in 06/07. Deal with it.

i have nothing against his attitude, as I said earlier, as long as he respects the club and wins us titles. although id prefer he'd be a little more honored for wearing united's number 7 shirt.
 
Watching the Portugal press conference yesterday you could tell they were getting pissed off with the questions. Ronaldo has been very selfish in that regard. The press aren't interested in their Euro preparations its all about Ronaldo.

Has to be said, wonderful footballer.....Selfish little cnut as a human being. but then he's far from alone in that respect among todays players.
 
:eek: IMHO, anything less than £45m for Ronaldo would be a disaster on United's behalf. Zidane went for around £43m at the age of 29..

We haven't exactly been good at squeezing the money from other clubs, we could have easily cashed in way more on Beckham and Ruud yet they both went for silly prices from our perspective. If Ronaldo wants to go and there is no way to hold him there, Real will play it wise and will not go over the top with their bid. At the end of they day they've done their job - they unsettled Ronaldo and make him want to move. That was the hardest part of it.
 
He's staying, whether he likes it or not (no one knows). Its Manchester United who decide. And we need him for at least one more year.
 
in the first half of 2003/2004 they hadnt clicked yet. they got kicked out of the uefa by who was it celtic? or some shit team (davids couldnt play due to cl appearance with juve).

they clicked in the first half of 2004 when they got davids. then he left and that summer deco, etoo came. but for the calendar year that was 2003 barca where a shit team bar their cl quarter final appearance.

yeah, but ronaldinho's stock really increased with teh arrival of Deco, Eto'o, the rise of Messi and of course the likes of Xavi and Iniesta...in 04 they had a great second half of a season and really went up in the table finishing second, and that's when they really started clicking, the next season they won the league, and the one after the double, and it was definitely not a shit team when they started playing their champagne football and Ronaldinho came to the top of footballing world.
 
We haven't exactly been good at squeezing the money from other clubs, we could have easily cashed in way more on Beckham and Ruud yet they both went for silly prices from our perspective. If Ronaldo wants to go and there is no way to hold him there, Real will play it wise and will not go over the top with their bid. At the end of they day they've done their job - they unsettled Ronaldo and make him want to move. That was the hardest part of it.

True, but then we've never had the best player in the world, on a four year contract, after scoring 42 goals, and winning a domestic and European double. Worst comes to worst, I'd say we're in a pretty strong bargaining position.
 
He's staying, whether he likes it or not (no one knows). Its Manchester United who decide. And we need him for at least one more year.

If he decides to go, we will let him go. I don't buy all this 'let him rot in reserves' bollocks. What's the point of that? That's exactly the thing Inter did with Adriano when Real bid about 35 million - they kept him at the club hoping for feck knows what. Now they would be happy to cash in 10% of that because nobody is willing to take him.
 
I don't suppose there's any chance of him leaving before Portugal's Euro campaign comes to an end, so we'll have to put up with potentially three more weeks of this.

SAF needs to sell him today and just hope a Turkish player maims him tomorrow. Face saved!!
 
True, but then we've never had the best player in the world, on a four year contract, after scoring 42 goals, and winning a domestic and European double. Worst comes to worst, I'd say we're in a pretty strong bargaining position.

We, on the other hand, had the most recognisable player in the world who was just what Real Madrid wanted at the time. We let him go for 25 million, then went and used that money to buy a Cameroonian midfielder that nobody have ever heard about, Brazilian midfielder that was also wanted by mighty Newcastle and no one else and a young Portuguese winger. That was hardly a good piece of business financial wise, even though Ronaldo turned out to be very, very good and a bargain at that price. Beckham was worth far more than that.
 
If he decides to go, we will let him go. I don't buy all this 'let him rot in reserves' bollocks. What's the point of that? That's exactly the thing Inter did with Adriano when Real bid about 35 million - they kept him at the club hoping for feck knows what. Now they would be happy to cash in 10% of that because nobody is willing to take him.

We obviously won't let him rot in the reserves that just silly talk. Its not like he hates Manchester United, he still loves the club and the fans (whether he's showing it or not) its not like he will be in deep depression if he stayed. He will give his all, thats him, hes a winner.
 
We, on the other hand, had the most recognisable player in the world who was just what Real Madrid wanted at the time. We let him go for 25 million, then went and used that money to buy a Cameroonian midfielder that nobody have ever heard about, Brazilian midfielder that was also wanted by mighty Newcastle and no one else and a young Portuguese winger. That was hardly a good piece of business financial wise, even though Ronaldo turned out to be very, very good and a bargain at that price. Beckham was worth far more than that.

He probably was but you forgot one crucial element. We wanted to sell Beckham, and that is probably the biggest driver down on the price. This situation is very different unless Ferguson has a U-turn.
 
yeah, but ronaldinho's stock really increased with teh arrival of Deco, Eto'o, the rise of Messi and of course the likes of Xavi and Iniesta...in 04 they had a great second half of a season and really went up in the table, and that's when they really started clicking, the next season they won the league, and the one after the double, and it was definitely not a shit team when they started playing their champagne football and Ronaldinho came to the top of list of footballing world.

yes but my point was that ronaldinho even in a shit barca, since he got there he was already starting to be their best player and starting to score goals, give assits. he even made saviola look like he was worth 2 shits and a half. he always looked amazing on his own even in a shit team.

"in 04 they had a great second half of a season and really went up in the table, and that's when they really started clicking"

yeah i said that too.

Ronaldinho was already being courted by the likes of milan and chelsea after being there for one season. before deco and etoo came there.
 
If he decides to go, we will let him go. I don't buy all this 'let him rot in reserves' bollocks. What's the point of that? That's exactly the thing Inter did with Adriano when Real bid about 35 million - they kept him at the club hoping for feck knows what. Now they would be happy to cash in 10% of that because nobody is willing to take him.

Adriano is one example but look at Gerrard. He was dead-set on going to Chelsea, changed his mind at the last minute, and has never looked like leaving since.

A season is a long time in football. Ronaldo is clearly a long way from being 100% convinced he wants to leave ("I stay") so if the club makes it clear to him we're not selling then he will make the best of his remaining time at the club, he won't have to rot in the reserves. It's not as though he's not gonna go on striker. And who knows what might change between this summer and next? He could end up signing another long-term contract and commit himself to staying at United until Fergie retires (realistically, the best we can expect)
 
End of the day until I see the words coming out of Ronnies mouth then its all heresay and speculation. Terra has a fairly reliable rep but there is no evidence as to what context any coments have been made until you can see him in interview.

That being said if he goes then good luck to the lad, hes the best player in the world but united are the best club weve proved that and will still be with or without him.

Robhino + something in the region of 40-50mil would be a dam good deal and allow us to push on from the success of this season.
 
The worst thing about this whole affair is the betrayal...

Ronaldo was vilified after WC06 and hated by most of England, but Ferguson, United and the fans were just fantastic with him, and have helped him become the success story he is.

Yes, he has repaid us with two fantastic seasons, but what he is giving back to the fans and the club is nothing compared with the effort put into him.

A lot of the quotes and reports may be complete rubbish, but if true, he should be ashamed of himself.
 
You'd think that after five years Ronaldo would have at least learned how to not act like a complete spacker.

He's got the brain of a really thick six year old.

"Don't bother asking me anymore"

Fat chance, and not that they'd need to anyway, now that you've dropped yourself in it.
 
We, on the other hand, had the most recognisable player in the world who was just what Real Madrid wanted at the time. We let him go for 25 million, then went and used that money to buy a Cameroonian midfielder that nobody have ever heard about, Brazilian midfielder that was also wanted by mighty Newcastle and no one else and a young Portuguese winger. That was hardly a good piece of business financial wise, even though Ronaldo turned out to be very, very good and a bargain at that price. Beckham was worth far more than that.

It was the right move for the team at the time. Beckam's performances on the pitch since are all the evidence you need and, as you point out yourself, his replacement number 7 turned out to be an excellent bit of business.
 
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