Oh dear..
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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Oh dear..
That's put us in our places then!
Sweet and charmingly honest.
Great stuff! You tell 'em.
No, it's just being heroically naive.
That's not what most fans are upset about. If he had an eye on a move to madrid then why sign a new 5 year contract? It seems he was happy to double his wages but isn't prepared to commit himself in return.
Ronaldo owes a debt to united and Ferguson in particular - who have made Ronaldo the player he is today. He should acknolwedlge that and show some loyalty.
Despite the rubbish he's come out with he is well aware he'll get the opportunity to move to Madrid every summer until he finally does. I for one won't be sorry to see him go. He'll be half the player he was at United and we'll buy a replacement and move on to better things.
Would that be Margaret Thatcher, saviour of the United Kingdom economy and destroyer of the Soviet 'Matrix' socialist experiment?
Look at the future impacts of CR7 staying with United. The likes of Anderson, Tevez and Nani will follow his footsteps and not tempted by Real next time.
I will listen to Fergie. The shit is over, he stays with us and will maybe sign a extention. Viva Ronaldo.
From SAF's recent interview;
'He added: "I think Real Madrid know they are dealing with a different animal now. I can't deny it was important for us, as a club, to keep him."'
Like I said all along, his value to United in both football and brand terms was impossible to overstate.
Either we rolled over, just like everyone does when Real Madrid come a calling, or we socked them in the goolies and sent them limping off home. The former case is simply not in SAF or the Glazer's view of the world. 'A different animal.' You bet.
They won't be sniffing around juicy morsels of ours again, that is for certain.
Now that would be optimistic!
Optimistic, but who knows. Ronaldo will become a legend imo, probably not a legend like Ole, Giggs and Scholes, but a legend in his own way. I think so anyways.
Throughout this thread posters have being saying that they will no longer cheer for Ronaldo when he is on the pitch for United. Is this still going to be the case or is he a fan favourite again??
It's not inevitable. Inevitable that we will keep him in the short term but getting him to sign another new contract is totally different.
They'll have to sort something out with his contract to stop him buying out his contract or his value reducing dramatically as he approaches the point where he could buy out his contract. One positive impression i have of Ronaldo through all this is that i don't think he would want united to lose out and he may be willing to renegotiate a longer term contract with say a £60million buy out clause, that way he would still get his move in a year or two, and united would still get a decent fee for him...
For those younger than 28 when they signed their contract, they must be three years into their deal - the 28 and overs can use it after just two years.
Therefore as he is one year into a 5 year contract, he would have to remain with us for another 2 years without signing any extension, for him to be in a position to do this.
Yes, but that means we would have to sell him next year if we wanted to get any sort of decent fee, and this fact would surely impact upon any fee we could demand..?
In what way am I naive for disliking Ronaldo the person? It`s a personal opinion, that`s all. A personal opinion that has been bashed by too many in this thread IMO.
I'm being too harsh on reflection. I was just trying to make the point that anyone who wants all the players he doesn't personally find to be of 'the right character' out of his club is going to have a rather limited squad remaining.
He negotiated the contract 18 months ago. Since then we've won two Leagues, Europe, his mum's had cancer, his uncle's died of it, his family's been in turmoil, and Madrid (he thought) could now offer enough money to do a deal with United. Things change - even in 18 months.
And now he's back at United because United said that they weren't selling his contract - which is what he commited to do when he signed a contract
And SAF made Richardson the player he is today? And Eagles? And Djemba Djemba? And Fortune? SAF's been important to him. United have been important to him. He has acknowledged that and he'll acknowledge that again by the way he'll play for us when he gets back.
Also, you can't tell how someone is like until you actually get to know them. Ronaldo's just a flash cnut. If most of us are honest, we'd love his lifestyle. Slavery has new meanings.
"The right character" are your words. I didn`t even say I wanted him out per se, I said on some level I did, on another I didn`t. The rest I agree with.
I don`t have a problem with his flashy lifestyle. If I were him you`d be reading new stories everyday about all my orgies. I`d be like Bruce Wayne, without the nocturnal bat thing.
I believe players like him will always be fan favourite. Its because he is a hell of a player and he is a special guy. You may hate what his done this summer, but his that type of player you just got to love. Maybe we here Viva Ronaldo the first match his playing after the injury.
Great player. Very few will argue with FACT.
What actions of Ronaldo's do you base his "special guy" status?
PS: There's more to becoming a legend at a club like United than just being a great player.
He reminds me of all the hype with Berbatov joining us. The more we found out Berbatov sounds like a cnut, the more happy we were to sign him. People who act a bit unormal get attention and usually get fan favourites.
I agree that its have to be more than a great footballer to become a legend.
That does not make sense.
Who said cnuts can't be legends and only great players can be legends? Roy Keane was a cnut, Ole wasn't a great player, but both were bigger legends than Ronaldo and will remain to be. Mark my words, Ronaldo will never be a united legend despite what you fanboys say.
I didn't say I hate him. Not at all. But if you read through this thread there will be numerous posters saying that they will not cheer for Ronaldo anymore. I was just wondering if those posters felt the same or are they back loving Ronaldo?
It's more to do with the fact that we don't want any club to cherry pick our best players, unless we're willing to sell. It doesn't look good for a club of United's stature. The brand is a bit of myth, as I've said countless times in this thread. Besides, he's not the first marketable player United have created, nor will he be the last.
So lets spice this up abit.
Surely the Glazers deserve A HUGE AMOUNT OF CREDIT for backing SAF to the hilt on this.
Despite the all the accusations from all the boo boys about 'the debt', despite the fact that we could have sold The cnut and bought two top class players and still made a handsome profit with the change, despite all that, it seems they are willing to to what SAF considers best for the club.
Would love to hear what Ralph and his fellow boo boys have to say!
I doubt Glazers had much of an option but to go along with SAF, he's practically become indispensable.
Basically it would be business suicide to go against his wishes.
To re-iterate points made many times in the main Ronaldo thread, Utd would have been in a far wose position had Ronaldo wanted this move when he had not already extended his contract.
He'd be worth less and could probably have invoked a Webster-ruling to buy out his contract for his outstanding wages (piffling in transfer terms). Being on a new contract massively strengthened Utd's hand - if Ronaldo was a real c*nt he wouldn't have signed for so long. Contracts are about both how much the player is paid, and how much the clubs can charge in the transfer market at times during it - that's why they get renewed before they run out.
Is the Webster ruling not age related?
Yes, if you're under a certain age (28 I think) you have to serve 3 years of your contract, if you're over it you only have to serve 2 years.
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